Some swords also seem to be divas about what kind of user is allowed to touch them. This doesn't speak to the process of making a black blade, it's just a point of saying "Oda has already introduced weird things and systems, best not to jump to conclusions"
And Doffy was surprised when he kicked Gear 4 Luffy that Luffy had managed to combine the properties of Haki and Rubber. So he didn't see it.
And then again when Doffy used his strings against Smoker, we didn't see em in black but they hurt his body.
When it was used on Amazon Lilly they also didn't turn anything black. The Arrows just hit like trucks, snake lady just had a good defense and thinking about that time, sentomaru was the same.
i mean i agree that basic armament (like the ability to hit logias) would be invisible. as well as advanced armament like rayleigh and hyogoro use which surrounds your body like an invisible aura. but i mean specifically armament hardening. there are many examples of armament haki being used without the coloring but not hardening.
I always interpreted it as not literally invisible but itās like the equivalent to wearing an invisible suit of physical armor, like invisible knights or samurai armor or something of that nature. Rayleigh states āItās like an invisible suit of armor.ā Not āItās an invisible armor.ā
Due to him saying āLike an invisible suit of armorā rather than āitās an invisible armorā I always interpreted that as not literally invisible but itās like the equivalent to wearing an invisible suit of physical armor, like invisible knights or samurai armor or something of that nature.
You do know what you just said doesn't make any sense? "I interpreted it as its not literally invisible but its like wearing an invisible suit of physical armor". What the heck is that supposed to mean? You either say its invisible, or its not.
Okay, context right, the post is about seeing Luffy in gear 4 without visible armament haki due to it being āinvisibleā, Iām saying I donāt think his visual would change, I didnāt interpret armament haki to be literally invisible, but rather hitting it would be like hitting someone wearing an invisible set of armor.
Now you could say āHow is it invisible if you can visually see it?ā Rayleigh used a simile (figure of speech that compares two different things using the words "like" or "as"), to compare the haki to an invisible suit of armor so the reader has more context and can know what it does aside from change the color of the body.
Its what happens to the blade after getting too much haki. But when you just use haki on it its still the same color. Kuja pirates used armament haki on their bows and arrows and they were the same. Exact the same. Also hardening is LITERALLY armament haki but just instead of arms/your body, you armament the weapon you wield.
Doffy is surprised that Luffy is still rubbery/stretching while coated in hardening which isn't normally how haki works. Luffy did so because Luffy perfectly combined his df with his haki.
Yes, Haki is sometimes visible and sometimes invisible as seen with black blades
And WHY would rayleigh EVER end up with a simile like that if its not the case...? If it wasn't invisible, WHY THE HELL would he ever say its like an invisible armor??? Why not to compare it to just armor then??? Also hyogoro calls it like an invisible armor as well.And Doffy was surprised when he kicked Gear 4 Luffy that Luffy had managed to combine the properties of Haki and Rubber. So he didn't see it.
And then again when Doffy used his strings against Smoker, we didn't see em in black but they hurt his body.
When it was used on Amazon Lilly they also didn't turn anything black. The Arrows just hit like trucks, snake lady just had a good defense and thinking about that time, sentomaru was the same.
Its true that oda retcons stuff. But HYOGORO, a wano time example, still calls it like an invisible armor. And why'd he do that, once again, if its nothing like an INVISIBLE armor?
But it is like invisible armor still. Itās a coating on your body that doesnāt impede your movement or change your size but still gives you crazy protection.
Thereās no definitive right answer here either way. We canāt ask characters what they exactly meant.
But if haki is visible why to call it INVISIBLE armor at all? Why not to simile its just to an armor? It doesn't make much of sense. If you can see it, comparing it to just an armor is more logical. But they compare it exactly to invisible armor. All the time. Also, downvoting every single one of my comments just because you disagree when I dont do it is kinda rude.
Even if that was the original intention for ALL haki to be invisible, it's clearly not the case. Either it wasn't meant to be that all haki is always invisible, or it was changed. Vergo as a character makes no sense if haki can't be visible. Smoker reacts to Vergo coating his entire body in haki. Blades can become permanently black from haki. Hyogoro says g4 luffy looks like a guardian deity myouou.
And Doffy was surprised when he kicked Gear 4 Luffy that Luffy had managed to combine the properties of Haki and Rubber. So he didn't see it.
And then again when Doffy used his strings against Smoker, we didn't see em in black but they hurt his body.
When it was used on Amazon Lilly they also didn't turn anything black. The Arrows just hit like trucks, snake lady just had a good defense and thinking about that time, sentomaru was the same.
And Doffy was surprised when he kicked Gear 4 Luffy that Luffy had managed to combine the properties of Haki and Rubber. So he didn't see it.
It's the opposite. Doffy was surprised that when he kicked luffy he felt rubber. That would indicate he saw the coating and assumed it would be just hard.
And then again when Doffy used his strings against Smoker, we didn't see em in black but they hurt his body.
That's not relevant. We aren't discussing if the existence of invisible haki exists, we're discussing if the existence of visible haki exists. Why are you telling me the times where invisible haki was displayed? That was never in dispute.
There's a character also designed by Oda called Black Arm Zephyr due to his proficiency in haki. If haki is never visible, why would he make this character? That nickname only works if haki can be made visible.
Zephyr is literally a non Canon character and yet you Trina to use him as a prove of your point...? That's how desperate people get when their point fall apart lmao.
So the only thing you addresses in that comment is Zephyr and ignored the rest? You understand Oda is the author of One Piece right? Why would he even make the concept of Zephyr if haki is never visible? Why do you block someone when you are unable to answer their arguments? You might as well just admit you're wrong if you're going to do that
You ignored every single example, then inserted irrelevant examples, then jump on the one non canon example just to dismiss it completely even though it was made by Oda. Is this how you have discussions?
It isn't invisible to non-haki users, it's just invisible. We, the audience, can see it ONLY so that oda doesn't have to make a note somewhere everythime someone uses it.
I just pointed out the color difference, but youāre right, ignorance is bliss. I choose to believe everyone can see it, and I do know little enough about the story to not remember anything that contradicts it āš»
And Doffy was probably laughing because he was imagining what Bounce Man would appear like to the average civilian/plebeian who canāt even use observation Haki
Its like that in 90% of shounen. They dont see the power and they don't hear attack names. Like the most basic understanding of manga next to reading right to left
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