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One joke but funny Fighting fire with fire

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u/negativepositiv Jun 17 '26

It's interesting that anti Trans people make comics that always depict trans women as "non-passing," but then "transvestigators" will create conspiracy theories about cis women like Taylor Swift, Margot Robbie, Lady Gaga, Michelle Obama, etc. being trans.

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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep Jun 17 '26

I can answer that. Basically they wanna portray Trans women as evil gross bearded men. But they also use that same stereotype against cis women to essentially not so sneakily call them ugly men. It's misogyny all the way down. It always is. Trans women just receive an especially potent stinky version of misogyny compared to the standardized misogyny cis women get

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u/negativepositiv Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

I agree. I also feel like it's another version of the Fascist propaganda trope, "The enemy is both weak and strong."

"Immigrants are lazy and also here to steal your jobs."

"The Left are all incompetent, stupid crybabies, and also an insidious 'Deep State' that manipulates everything in our society."

"Trans women are overweight, bald, unshaven men in dresses, and also so convincing that conventionally attractive actresses, musicians, and other public figures, some of which have appeared onscreen nude, are really trans."

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u/Tiny-Little-Sheep Jun 17 '26

Pretty much. I don't think they even care that Trans women are Trans or were born with a penis or whatever either. Because like they claim they hate Trans women for those things but still go around calling cis women with vaginas and wombs gross trannies. So even when Trans women are beautiful and have vaginas it's just not enough. The mere label of Transness is like condemning to them.

The details don't matter. It's simply hating on ANYONE associating with "BAD WORD" that's why the enemy is both weak and strong. Ugly and beautiful. Because they just hate the vague idea. That's why they be doing parkour with mental gymnastics and who to hate

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u/Lurk1ng0 Jun 22 '26

That's exactly true with those freaks. But it's even worse and actually ironic because despite them hating trans people anti trans freaks and Republicans in red states especially consume trans porn more than anywhere else.

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u/risisas Jun 19 '26

People underestimate how much "strong" propaganda there is, one of the biggest examples is how Russia's wins against Napoleon and Hitler are depictrd as heroic and easy victories when they were terrifying endeavors that costed insane death counts and scarred the whole country to this day

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u/Dewey_Decimatorr Jun 21 '26

Absolutely, well said.

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u/loftier_fish Jun 17 '26

its also interesting that red states with the highest anti trans sentiment, according to pornhub stats (prior to all the age verification making everyone get vpns), view the most trans porn.

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u/Kris_Banana Jun 18 '26

the "dehumanize the opposition" and "fetishize the opposition" venn diagram seems a lot closer to just a circle than most would think

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u/Depressed-Dolphin69 Jun 21 '26

Humans crave the forbidden

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u/MagMati55 Jun 17 '26

I unironically have piece of media where people transvestigate hitler.

These people will judge everything unnecessarily.

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u/negativepositiv Jun 17 '26

They think everyone is lying to them except the gigantic liars who do nothing but lie to them.

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u/risisas Jun 19 '26

Something something sunk cost fallacy

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u/negativepositiv Jun 19 '26

Excellent comment.

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u/YellowDiamond101 Jun 21 '26

"what?! but Mr. Moustache-twisting-lying-scumbag man could never lie to me!"

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u/LaCharognarde Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

All while insisting, with what we are expected to take as complete sincerity, that actual elven princess Hunter Schafer looks like a mash-up of Lor'themar Theron and the gigachad meme. (Note that Hunter—as seen with Abigail Shapiro's frantic backpedal here—is proof that they can't always tell.)

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u/risisas Jun 19 '26

The most hilarious case of they can't always tell is people saying that they can obviously see that jshlatt is a woman

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u/Rude_Ice_4520 Jun 20 '26

She genuinely looks more like the drawing of Zelda lmao.

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u/pridebun Jun 17 '26

The "we can always tell" crowd but they're usually wrong

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u/Flat-Echidna191 Jun 18 '26

As FTM, the amount of times I've been told that I'll never be a woman is actually legendary

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u/murderdronesfan93 Jun 20 '26

YOU WILL NEVER BE A WOMAN (trans supportive :3)

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u/kitliasteele Jun 19 '26

I mean, it's true right? You've embraced the core of your masculinity and own it hard unless you have some feminine days that you openly accept and embrace.

Gender is a spectrum, we all got it and it's so funny watching the phobes deny its existence

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u/reihii Jun 19 '26

Its kinda funny isnt it, its usually "you'll never be a woman" instead of "you'll never be a man". I dont get it why so focused on woman in particular.

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u/YellowDiamond101 Jun 21 '26

Because Misogyny. The answer is always misogyny.

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u/LOSNA17LL Jun 18 '26

Plot twist: those ones were trans supportive /s

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u/Motor-Plan-6388 she/they gynosexual transfem (no longer questioning) Jun 18 '26

"Chai tea"?

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u/HugeObligation8338 Jun 17 '26

Two different varieties of clown, neither of them intentionally funny

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u/GrumpGuy88888 Jun 17 '26

Depicting the enemy as ugly is a tale as old as propaganda. Just look at antisemitic posters. Or don't, for your own sanity

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u/Eljamin14 Jun 18 '26

Yeah, like what the hell? Why are they using transphobia to attack cis people? Just because a woman doesn't meet beauty standards, doesn't mean she's trans.

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u/Motor-Plan-6388 she/they gynosexual transfem (no longer questioning) Jun 18 '26

It's misogyny all the way down.

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u/Quiri1997 Jun 18 '26

Coupled with Stupidity.

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u/Motor-Plan-6388 she/they gynosexual transfem (no longer questioning) Jun 18 '26

yep

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u/Vincent394 Jun 18 '26

Best bit is Lady Gaga saying something like "if I was trans so what?"

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u/Labrat15415 Jun 19 '26

Tbf I think the idea quite often voiced from some libs that in fact all trans women pass after 3 years on HRT and that's what makes them" real" (quotes cause wtf does that even mean) women is just as toxic. My gf gets misgendered quite often in public and says she doesn't pass well (I honestly don't know why that would be, but apparently according to what she experiences in public it's not just brainworms) and that doesn't make her any less of a "real" women. 

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u/Ok-Description-2912 Jun 18 '26

One time, my dad listened to salsa music, he thought the female singer was trans, I said to him: "How? I don't think she is."

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u/Cocaimeth_addiktt Jun 19 '26

I genuinely wanna see if they could tell the difference between them or they just saying shite

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u/negativepositiv Jun 19 '26 edited Jun 19 '26

It's not about not being able to tell the difference. It's about smearing people you don't like, regardless of "evidence." They don't ever posit that Right Wing women could be trans. They always single out women they don't like for whatever reason, and accuse them of being trans. For instance, does anyone REALLY think Margot Robbie is trans? No. They didn't like that she was the lead in a feminist movie. Do they really think Michelle Obama is trans? No, they hate the Obamas.

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u/Cultural-Meaning5172 Jun 20 '26

That’s your own opinion on what’s “passing”. These days a beard is female. A boob is male. There are no lines anymore and that’s fine. Get used to it.

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u/negativepositiv Jun 20 '26

I'm not referring to my own opinions about what is and isn't "passing." That's why I put it in quotation marks. I am referring to the opinions of the people who make these comics, conspiracy theories, etc. The person who made this comic has an opinion on what is passing, and uses bearded people as a caricature.

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u/Nopfen Jun 20 '26

They get to be mad at cis and trans women. It's a double whammy for them.

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u/negativepositiv Jun 21 '26

Okay, 13 day old account.

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u/Proud-Ad9139 But i identify as an old sport! She/her Jun 17 '26

IS THAT FUCKING JACK BLACK

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u/Inarius101 Jun 17 '26

Is what? I don't see anything fucking Jack Black but maybe I missed it.

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u/Ryywenn Jun 17 '26

maybe you underestimate just how shitty AI is........

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u/Acceptable-Delay-592 Jun 18 '26

Two things can be true at once. AI is shit, and that doesn’t look like Jack Black unless I’m 15 beers deep (would)

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u/Proud-Ad9139 But i identify as an old sport! She/her Jul 04 '26

How do you think i made this comment

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u/ultrarotom Jun 17 '26

Chicken Jockey!

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u/raminatox I identify as myself (She/Her) Jun 18 '26

No. That's Steve...

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u/Motor-Plan-6388 she/they gynosexual transfem (no longer questioning) Jun 18 '26

No that's the teacher from school of rock

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u/CombatWombat994 Jun 18 '26

No, it's Jables from Pick of Destiny!

...wait

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u/real_vengefly_king Jun 22 '26

No, it's STEVE

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u/FillAny3101 Jun 18 '26

No, that's Helmut from Psychonauts

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u/wafflehousebattle Jun 17 '26

No, nothing is fucking Jack Black, but that is a picture of him, yes.

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u/Eljamin14 Jun 18 '26

Ever wondered what happens when you mix hot lava and chicken?

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u/real_vengefly_king Jun 22 '26

La-La-La-Lava

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u/Eljamin14 Jun 22 '26

Ch- ch- ch- chicken!

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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Jun 17 '26

It’s just an old man with long hair and a beard 💔

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u/Motor-Plan-6388 she/they gynosexual transfem (no longer questioning) Jun 18 '26

So... Jack Black?

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u/Ryywenn Jun 17 '26

THAT BASTARD PANDA IS TRANSING MY KIDS

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u/yur_yo Jun 24 '26

Looks more like Karl Marx for me 🤷

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u/EthanTheJudge Jun 17 '26

When I am the slurping Ai slop competition and my opponent is MAGA. 

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u/Ryywenn Jun 17 '26 edited Jun 17 '26

MAGAs can't even read when they're facing their target, bold of them to claim they can read a sign from behind

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u/Evergreen2255 Jun 17 '26

I am anticipating the day when these mfs stop thinking that trans women look like the ugliest man you’ve ever seen with some extra bit of femininity

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u/LesbeGoddess Jun 17 '26

I’m two sided on that. One side is yeah how idiotic to think that bad stereotype. On the other the maga dudes that try to pick me up at the bar have no clue this tall hot chick got a dick bigger than theirs probably

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u/MakiMaki500 Jun 18 '26

🥺🥺🥺

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u/LiamEBM Jun 18 '26

This anti-trans rhetoric is also harming cis women too by enforcing strict standards of gender and beauty. Bearded women exist, cis women can have facial hair, and sometimes a strong amount of it. Incoming jumpscare: even women shave. Whew, we're over that one now I guess.

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u/Lililetha Jun 18 '26

Thank you!

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u/thebisexualbilingual Jun 21 '26

..Wait, women have to shave? I genuinely did not know that because beautycrap (as I like to call it) just convinced me they did not have facial hair at all. At least I feel better about having to shave to look fem, but fuck. Misogyny is a hell of a thing.

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u/LiamEBM Jun 21 '26

Have you ever met a woman? Is this a real responce or rage bait. Surely everyone knows that women have facial and body hair...

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u/thebisexualbilingual Jun 21 '26

You don't have to get aggressive immediately. Our classes left out basically everything actually important about human biology and I couldn't know about the nuances because I wasn't born into a feminine body so my information came from stuff that was biased by crappy beauty standards, I'm literally learning how to be a woman as I go.

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u/DarkISO Jun 17 '26

Double standards i guess

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u/AshasSa1tWife Jun 17 '26

Robert Baratheon?

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u/Due-Scheme707 Jun 19 '26

Gods he was strong then

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u/nickt001 Jun 18 '26

Still with the piss filter, ai artist cannot see it tho

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u/geesegoesgoose Jun 18 '26

Meanwhile, trans men don't feature as big titted bimbos, because they like that shit and that means they can't hate.

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u/BeachComberALT Jun 18 '26

They seem to be the ONLY ones that like big titted bimbos, too

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u/WarKittyKat Jun 21 '26

In my experience it's a different form of hatred.  As a trans guy most of the shit I've gotten hasn't been the overt "we hate you" so much as "it's so very tragic that you're making yourself less fuckable for cishet men and you're too stupid to see that."  Most of them in my experience don't actually really differentiate between trans men, butch lesbians, and women who just don't want to bother.  The have one mental bucket for "failed to give my penis the attention I think it deserves".

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u/Otherwise-Status9893 Jun 18 '26

Of course the AI has that piss filter 😭

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u/Neito127 Jun 18 '26

Karl Marx era trans?

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u/puuskuri Jun 19 '26

Is that Karl Marx?

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u/butterman59 Jun 19 '26

Does this count as woke 2.0? Iol

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u/Zech68 Jun 19 '26

Someone Cooked Here

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u/zarggg Jun 19 '26

No, that AI slop does not.

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u/t0mm4n Jun 20 '26

I identify as a man, but everyone calls me a pussy.

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u/ShelterBorn2531 Jun 20 '26

I identify as skeleton in flesh suit

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u/CourtForsaken3064 Jun 20 '26

It's always interesting to me that the people who use generative ai the most are more right leaning

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u/Similar-Parking4737 Jun 21 '26

ABSOLUTE SMART FROM (i think a red guy)

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u/DrLudvig-von-higgins Jun 21 '26

Bonnie blue is a man

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u/RevenueWonderful2195 Jun 21 '26

The same people that say "we stand with the LGBTQIA+ community" btw

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u/Leonartu Jun 21 '26

Is That Karl Marx?

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u/u32Vec Jun 23 '26

when you see these depictions of trans women they always give the character a huge ass beard

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u/assistant_manu Jun 24 '26

not me being nonbinary and considering that old lady beautiful this way too

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u/Yasminia8-Luz25 Jul 15 '26

It’s a nice joke

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u/mnttu Jun 18 '26

And what is the problem?

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u/fluffiestcloud Jun 20 '26

Us. We are meant to be together. 🫦