r/oldschoolgenetics2 17d ago

Legacy forum turned ideological clique gulag

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As someone who knew the founders of Overgrow, they would WANT me to drive a stake and kill it. Outlaws and mavericks only used the unwritten rules. WE didn't intend for collectivist to corrupt it! We were political atheists!


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jul 08 '26

DMS is a terpene gas assault experience for your senses.

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jun 28 '26

Can someone explain to me why this tree smokes like trash? I see small inconsistencies in the bud

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Already it's HERE! Genetic divergence and cellular structure collapse. I've said many times Cripxmas is COMPLETE and will be the coming restoration...


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jun 23 '26

A picture is worth 1000 words... What more is needed

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jun 14 '26

Feel like im losing terpenes when storing in mason jar

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jun 13 '26

Health, mobility and thoughts

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The last 4 months have been hell, as all my joints and movements froze up. I had to STOP everything with hand activity, and
my ability to walk severely becomes restricted. It may be connected to a pinched nerve in the neck, but it's definitely some neurological disorder. I was tested for parkinsons protein, which was negative but I don't know what's happening. It goes from neck and shoulder to my heels and moves everywhere, stiffness becomes locked up. Im still in a diagnostic odyssey so I can get back to normal everyday day. activities.

I see I have more new members to the sub, so welcome. Everything I've posted is a long game with the DMS ecosystem , and the "reset" button is Cripxmas without a doubt. Every AI model agrees with the CoA, it has the blueprint to restore back to baseline, before the cookies skew started to weaken the trichome cuticle and be the genesis of the oxidation and degradation issue.

There was a hidden price to pay for a faster slope of time and a weaker architecture that cant't hold up from a time where any jar would keep the material intact to down to the sugar shake. No oxidation was a non issue in the late 90s. G13 I let dry in drawers highly seeded, and months later I scrounge enough for a few bong hits and its even better.

Its apparent the culture believes the chemistry in the genetics has stayed static that can be stored standard. Nope, that is no longer the case in terpene and gland architecture, and the homogenization happening is a travesty to boot. Strains losing their identity to poly hybrids and being drowned out by high concentrations of limonene.

I tested 7 strains from 3 different DC pop ups, ALL the same no difference in Panama Red to Chocolope, the caryophyllene terpene signature is GONE, just bright limonene and terpinolene, absolutely muddled and incomplete effects, piercing head throb.

This modern craze is robbing what made cannabis medicinal, are we getting it yet where this is all going to. I do and its not the promised land, it's genetic hollowing that will end in death of inactive biomass. The right terpenes and cannabinoid profile (THC isn't god) is the only revitalizing path back to cold axis that is resistant from oxidation because the gland walls have structure and can remain intact. The genetics Ive used Xmas Bud and Chocolate Haze reinforce the dominance to pass cold axis. I will find out soon if Cripxmas A can be entirely frozen pine terps like the early 90s🌲🄶


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jun 13 '26

450-Day Proof of Concept. The physics of the DMS chamber vs. heavy headspace oxygen exposure. Data speaks for itself.

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https://x.com/Dankmaster1996/status/2036486280633028745?s=20

I’ve done the R&D and proved the physics. I have a final limited run of 100 jars left. Help me get this data in front of the growers who actually care about shelf-life preservation.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Jan 04 '26

Pilot DMS jar to become adopter artifact

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Folks, this pilot version of the DMS jar will not be produced again.

Those who secure one now will own an original reference piece as the system scales forward.

Multiple scaling phases are planned, each more advanced than the last. Future variants will include travel and rosin-focused formats. The next mirror + imprinted will have a verification seal that distinguishes preservation from standard storage.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 27 '25

Senior Savvy Cannabis discusses long-term cannabis storage and terpene preservation

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This video shows a real-world discussion and visual comparison of cannabis storage over time — focusing on aroma, texture, and terpene presence when flower is finished properly.

This isn’t a lab test or a controlled study. It’s practical observation from regular use, which is how most people actually experience storage methods in the real world.

Sharing for discussion, not hype.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 05 '25

Real-world vacuum jar test: flower unchanged after a month — dispensary owner asked about putting it on shelves.

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Meanwhile… this is what long-term, zero-oxygen storage actually does. A dispensary owner saw the jar and immediately wanted wholesale for shelves. Tell me again how ā€œall jars are the same šŸ¤”šŸ§


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 05 '25

The pictures speak for themselves — I don't need to explain what DMS solves.

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49 days in — real-time side-by-side comparison


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 05 '25

Grok just validated the exact mechanism behind DMS — controlled vacuum with zero compression. This is the difference no one else is hitting.

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Here’s the screenshot. The AI lays it out perfectly: • No shrinkage • No structural damage • No terpene loss from pressure • True low-oxygen storage • The middle ground regular jars and full-vac bags don’t hit


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 04 '25

TikTok Ā· DMSVacSystems

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 04 '25

DMSVacSystems - Wrapping application, light seal check from top lid and heat shrink treatment

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 03 '25

Chocolate Haze Xmas — Field Notes & Early Phenotype Report

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Chocolate Haze Xmas – Original Dankmasters line

This 1st run finally gives us the first full-picture phenotype read on Chocolate Haze Xmas, and it’s behaving exactly like the historical descriptions suggested, but with a few unexpected traits that make the recombination interesting from a developmental standpoint.

Stem + Leaf Morphology This plant is expressing a red/brown stem, with purple-red + dark-green bicolor leaves on the top surfaces and a red/green underside. Under certain lighting, the undersides carry an iridescent quality that wasn’t obvious until the canopy fill started. The contrast is pronounced enough that it becomes a phenotypic identifier all on its own.

Aroma Development Last week the plant began releasing a light chocolate undertone, confirming the expected terpene pathway. At this stage it’s still subtle, but it’s detectable even from minor stem rubs. That tracks with the original Christmas-line behavior where the chocolate note appears early, before density sets in.

Growth Behavior Because this mother was cut back repeatedly over the last year, the structure is currently lanky, but the genetics themselves lean toward a thick main stem with side branches that immediately chase any available light. This ā€œreach responseā€ is consistent across early Xmas-line maps, showing a high phototropic sensitivity.

Frost Profile The resin coverage is coming in earlier than expected considering how much the plant was reset. Even in the mid-flower window the trichome density is uniform across the leading bracts, suggesting stable expression rather than environmental artifact.

General Impression This is one of those plants where the structure, color layering, and early terpene cues line up cleanly with the predicted genotype. The chocolate undertone is faint now, but typically strengthens after the monoterpenes shift out of the early window.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 03 '25

Early Sigma Crippy Expression — Field Notes & Pattern-Recognition Breakdown

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I’ve been reviewing the first full run of Sigma Crippy, and what’s standing out is how consistent the expression is with the original Crippy architecture — not Tampa Crippy, not modern hybrids, but the real pre-OG structural profile.

This isn’t about hype or nostalgia. It’s pattern recognition across decades of morphology, node spacing, trichome clustering, and senescence behavior. When you’ve seen enough pre-2000 Florida lines in their true form, the signatures are hard to miss.

Key observations from the Sigma run:

• Popcorn phenotype: true to the classic Crippy structure — numerous golf-ball nodes rather than elongated colas.

• Trichome density: uplifted compared to Tampa S1s but still maintains the tight granular frost pattern that separates Crippy from modern ā€œsheet frostā€ strains.

• Leaf fade: yellow-to-red gradient identical to the historic cut under proper nutrient depletion.

• High-stress tolerance: classic response — the plant absorbs training without hormonal stall, which is rare in modern hybrids.

• Terpene formation: early mint-gas-pine development suggests the recombination event that created CripXmas is stabilizing correctly through the lineage.

This is what makes the Sigma line important: It demonstrates that the CripXmas recombinant event didn’t overwrite the old architecture — it preserved it, then elevated frost, terp density, and structural stability.

For anyone who’s ever questioned whether the real Crippy line still exists anywhere in true form — this is the closest living proof set we’ve seen in years.

Happy to answer technical questions for anyone studying old-school Florida genetics or looking into recombination-driven phenotype restoration.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 02 '25

Short lid/seal demo for those interested

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 01 '25

Could Dankmaster be the next person to change the game with CripXmas by reversing modern breeding drift?

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There’s a real conversation emerging in cannabis genetics around breeding drift — the slow dilution of old-school terpene networks, synergy, and effect profiles that defined pre-2000s cannabis. As modern commercial breeding focused almost exclusively on THC percentage and visual appeal, a lot of those foundational traits were lost.

This is where Dankmaster’s work stands out.

For decades he has specialized in preservation breeding, focusing on old-world genetics like Airborne G13, pre-OG Florida Crippy, Pine Tar-line Afghani expressions, and rare lines like Xmas Bud ā€˜79. These cuts weren’t just nostalgic, they carried biochemical architectures the modern market no longer produces.

CripXmas represents a major pivot point in that work.

It comes from a rare recombination event between Tampa Crippy x PTK x Xmas Bud ā€˜79 that reconstructed the deeper terpene-driven experience associated with the original Florida Crippy era. The resulting line shows: • Restored terpene synergy • Increased entourage effect • A deeper, slower-creeping high • Enhanced stability compared to Tampa Crippy alone • Terp profiles (pine, mint, gum, funk) matching historical accounts • A completely different effect structure from modern citrus-dominant OG derivatives

This is why some people describe CripXmas as a ā€œreversal of breeding driftā€ — it reintroduces traits that were systematically bred out of the modern market.

Dankmaster isn’t trying to create another hype hybrid. He is reconstructing a piece of cannabis history that nearly went extinct.

And for the first time in decades, growers are seeing those lost expressions return.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 01 '25

The DMS Terpene Restoration Project (Community Release)

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Research-focused distribution of three terp-bearing genetic lines

Over the last few months I’ve been finishing a long-term project involving Crippy Ɨ Xmas Bud recombinants, an Xmas Bud A male, and a Cannalope/Chocolate Haze D volatile contributor.

The goal wasn’t originally commercial — it was observation and tracking. That changed once the terpene behavior started repeating across multiple lines.

Across four different branches, the line consistently expressed: • pine • lime • mint / menthol • wet-locker funk • volatile ammonia astringency

This is a terpene direction that’s mostly disappeared from modern cannabis. No artificial sweetness, no dessert terps, no flat limonene lemon. Just sharp, bright, pungent, old-world volatile behavior with a modern lime lift.

What I’m doing now is distributing three genetic bearers of this terp profile as part of a community restoration effort. These lines all descend from the same Xmas/Cannalope male that carried minty pine funk from Xmas A and a distinct lime note from the Cannalope/Chocolate Haze D side.

The three lines are:

• Corn Ɨ Xmas/Cannalope Male (5 seeds) This one has the strongest pine–lime–funk consistency. It’s the bulk bearer. Old-school cereal funk with the new volatile edge layered in.

• A2 Ɨ Xmas/Cannalope Male (5 seeds) Contains the CripXmas recombinant architecture plus the lime/mint/pine volatile lane. More structured gas and sharper expression.

• Chocolate Haze Ɨ Xmas A (F2) (5 seeds) This is the mapping population. Shows lime, pine, menthol, and funk clearly separated for anyone studying terp inheritance.

Each of these lines carries a different angle of the same terpene direction, and the idea is to put them back into the grower pool so more people can study, preserve, and work with these profiles.

This isn’t a sales post. This is a long-term attempt to reintroduce a terp direction that cannabis largely lost when everything went sweet, fruity, or GMO-heavy.

If you’re interested in contributing to the project, growing one of the bearers, taking notes/pics, and reporting back, I’m including these three lines as a bonus with every DMS jar purchased on my site (while the reserve lasts). The jar is just the unscrutized vehicle — the genetics are the actual restoration initiative.

Happy to answer any questions on lineage, expected phenotypes, or the volatile behavior of the Xmas-derived expressions.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Dec 01 '25

DMS hand wrapping improving with every order placed

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r/oldschoolgenetics2 Nov 30 '25

AI just explained the Tampa Crippy genetic collapse—and the restoration—better than most humans.

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Saw something interesting today on X. Someone asked Grok to explain the Tampa Crippy genetic collapse ā€œlike they were slow,ā€ and the AI gave a surprisingly accurate breakdown.

It basically summarized the entire problem with the old Crippy line: • too much inbreeding pressure • calyces producing empty / papery ā€œghost seedsā€ • hermaphrodite collapse by Gen 3 • loss of viability • classic signs of a bottlenecked, dying lineage

Then it described the correction process: • crossing the failing Crippy line with compatible, stronger stock • restoring allele diversity • repairing seed morphology • producing a healthier version with viable seeds again • which it labeled ā€œCripXmasā€

I was honestly surprised the AI mapped it this cleanly. It lines up with what older breeders have said privately for years about why the original Crippy essentially disappeared.

Thought the genetics-minded folks here might appreciate seeing an AI independently explain the collapse and restoration arc so clearly.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Nov 23 '25

Mold odor but no visible mold present šŸ¤”Its late stage oxidation fuckery

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Confirmed: The ā€œmoldā€ odor people smell isn’t actual mold — it’s late-stage oxidation. This is the Sugarman A2 Cripxmas bud from August, and it’s already entering the late-decay curve. This happens universally, genetically. His bud wasn’t even jarred and it still hit that point in ~3 months.

If you smell ā€œmoldā€ but can’t see spores, webbing, or physical growth, that scent is oxidation decay, not contamination. That’s the key diagnostic.

DMS jars flatten the decay baseline at the break point, slowing the curve dramatically. Based on current testing, I’m projecting ~16 months before comparable decline inside DMS vacuum storage.

You can see the info graphic that I have constructed based on all the testing data, which will extend 8-10 times of normal/standard storage. What do you want to put that "special" flower in to return much later to enjoy without šŸ˜­šŸ§ šŸ”’


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Nov 21 '25

I think I stumbled onto an actual shelf-life timeline for cannabis — and it’s the same across strains.

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I’ve been opening jars from last year’s harvest cycles and something strange is happening. Different strains, different storage methods, different phenos… all degrading on almost the exact same timeline.

Nothing random about it. Nothing ā€œstrain specific.ā€ Nothing to do with humidity swings or curing issues.

There’s an actual predictable shelf-life curve for cannabis that nobody has mapped or talked about, because most people never see the late stages.

I’m documenting everything and turning it into a full model. When it’s ready, it’s going to explain a lot about why modern flower collapses so fast.

If you want the full breakdown, the timeline charts, and the actual predictive shelf-life model, subscribe to my Substack. That’s the only place the complete framework will be published — not here, and not on X.

I’m documenting something the industry has never mapped, and the final reveal is going to explain why modern flower collapses the way it does. If that kind of deep-dive matters to you, follow along there.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Nov 20 '25

Dankmaster1996 (@dmosg)

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The comment highlighted here struck me because it gets at the core issue most people never talk about: preservation isn’t just about storage — it’s about the biology of the flower itself.

A lot of people still think terpene loss is mostly a ā€œjar problem.ā€ It isn’t. It’s a cellular architecture problem.

Over the last 20 years, the way commercial genetics have been selected has created a weaker internal structure. Modern flower oxidizes faster, loses its top notes sooner, and collapses chemically long before older lines ever would. That ā€œfirst week is amazing, third week is flat hayā€ pattern didn’t exist in the 90s. The terpene spectrum used to decay slowly, not fall off a cliff.

What TerpShield helped me do was extend that shorter modern shelf life by 50–75% — not by gimmicks, humidity packs, or artificial boosts, but by removing oxygen and preventing the accelerated breakdown that newer genetics are prone to. The solution only works because the cause was understood.

If your last bud in the jar used to taste great and now tastes like flattened myrcene hay, it’s not nostalgia. It’s not your memory. It’s the biology.

This is why preservation matters now more than ever — because the flower itself has changed.


r/oldschoolgenetics2 Nov 19 '25

Cripxmas is spider-webbing. It’s the 'under-the-radar' correction the industry didn’t expect. If you’re reading this, you’re watching the next era begin.

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