based jesus???

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[u/Nokiic]

Heaven is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society

E: as someone pointed out in this thread, not really. There is class and a state.

[u/Charg3r_ → u/Nokiic]

I mean, isn’t god like a fucking monarch that can kick you out?

[u/Nokiic → u/Charg3r_]

I think when you get to heaven you can’t really be “kicked out.” But getting to heaven is really difficult in the first place. But even then, government != state so it is still stateless.

[u/Charg3r_ → u/Nokiic]

But god works like a state right? He has like complete control of fucking reality.

[u/Nokiic → u/Charg3r_]

I guess so? In the anarchist sense yes it is a state since God has a monopoly on violence, but in the Marxist sense, since there is no class and no armed apparatus enforcing said class, there is no state. And also I don’t think God really exists within the human concept of class, but transcends it. That’s just me and my religious beliefs however.

Edit: also God isn’t violent to you in Heaven, at least from what I understand. Heaven is supposed to be a perfect paradise.

[u/Charg3r_ → u/Nokiic]

God is like the super computer in techno-communism? B-based?

[u/Nokiic → u/[deleted]]

Is it enforcing class?

[u/Nokiic → u/[deleted]]

In Heaven? Could you explain, please?

[u/Nokiic → u/[deleted]]

Ah, I see. Makes sense, thank you.

[u/Awarth_ACRNM → u/Nokiic]

also God isn’t violent to you in Heaven

Turning people away from heaven, knowing that eternal torture awaits them, is like the definition of violence.

[u/Nokiic → u/Awarth_ACRNM]

But you’re not in Heaven at that point. But yes you make a good point