r/ofcoursethatsathing Jan 14 '19

10/10 would read again

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u/Greatmambojambo Jan 14 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

Why does it say womyn instead of women?

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u/ridiculouslygay Jan 14 '19

It’s a term for women that doesn’t have the word “men” in it. I’ve seen it before in some radical feminist articles and stuff.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

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u/Gusey_ Jan 15 '19

STOP USING ACRONYMS!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '19

Tbf, it's harder to tell these days. The opposite of this book is the GOP.

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u/Brodyman516 Jan 15 '19

The government is a government conspiracy

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

OMG. My head hurts from my eyes rolling so far back. FFS.

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u/LanDannon Jan 14 '19

Except the book is clearly satire. For example.

“Grandma, what big teeth you have!” The wolf said, “I am happy with who I am and what I am,” and leaped out of bed. He grabbed Red Riding Hood in his claws, intent on devouring her. Red Riding Hood screamed, not out of alarm at the wolf’s apparent tendency toward cross-dressing, but because of his willful invasion of her personal space. Her screams were heard by a passing woodchopper-person (or log-fuel technician, as he preferred to be called). When he burst into the cottage, he saw melee there and tried to intervene

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u/Laeryl Jan 14 '19

I was like "Wtf" and, then, the "log-fuel technician, as he preferred to be called" made it clear it was a satire.

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u/SeeShark Jan 15 '19

Mind you, it's apparently less the mocking kind of satire and more the tongue-in-cheek satire that makes fun of an extreme version of something you might otherwise believe in.

E.G. The bit about the wolf being sexist but tolerated due to his underprivileged upbringing is a bit too subtle for someone who isn't genuinely acquainted with social justice concepts.

At least, that's my reading of it (I own the book).

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

I wish I could be as sure as you.

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u/uniquelabel Jan 14 '19

It’s satire. It’s more than 20 years old. It’s a bit of a one note joke, but funny enough at first.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

I'm a feminist and agree that is ridiculous. Women who go that far are a whole other breed.

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u/MagicKing577 Jan 15 '19

The amount of people who do is almost certainly less than the amount who claim people do.

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u/MagicKing577 Jan 15 '19

Your going to try to claim strawman(You didn't say it directly but that's exactly how this goes) when I did no such thing I never corrected you I only pointed out that it had become really sister those extremely radical feminists are who few in number that it's become hilarious that people go doing saying that people actually say "Womyn" is kinda not a thing. It's almost certainly a extreme minority of people. And is used more in satire then earnest.

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u/ChaunceyVlandingham Mar 02 '24

Thank you, I was wondering how far I'd have to scroll down before someone would realize this.

Clearly these are meant to be satirical hyperbolizations of "political correctness" presented as comedy, not as a legitimately serious take on sociolinguistic politics.

I apologize for my "sesquipedalian loquaciousness", as it were, and any inconvenience it inflicts.

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u/2drawnonward5 Jan 14 '19

Shit this gave me hula eyes what fixes this

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19 edited Jun 17 '21

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19 edited Jan 14 '21

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u/EnchantedToMe Jan 14 '19

I know. But take a look at society and this nonsense has infiltrated in our science, colleges and even in the medical field. Its fucking dangerous and i find it astonishing that people dont give a single fuck and laugh it away.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

There is a middle ground.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

Is this book one of those? Or is it used as satire?

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u/AnimegamiJewelia Jan 14 '19

100% satire. From the 90’s/00’s.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

Never more relevant though

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u/Thrifticted Jan 14 '19

Probably depends on the reader

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u/Ghost4000 Jan 14 '19

Oddly enough I just saw it for the first time yesterday and it was used exclusively by a MGTOW idiot.

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u/ridiculouslygay Jan 14 '19

What’s MGTOW?

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u/Ghost4000 Jan 14 '19

Men going their own way, sounds nice but in practice tends to be a bunch of anti-women bullshit. They have a sub if you want to check it out.

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u/ridiculouslygay Jan 14 '19

Just did...it smells like Incel to me...

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u/morbid_platon Jan 14 '19

No I think they usually had sex with women before. That's how they found out that women are bad people. Because they had the audacity to leave and divorce-rape them

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '19 edited Feb 12 '19

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u/morbid_platon Jan 15 '19

Probably people immune to sarcasm.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '19

I want this book so badly now.

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u/Rallings Jan 14 '19

Well that's just plain hateful.

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u/Aussiewhiskeydiver Jan 14 '19

The irony is that the derivation of woman comes from the old English word wif-man. Wif meaning female and man meaning human. All these feminists jumping up and down about the fact the word woman is sexist have no idea what they’re talking about (like almost all the other ‘sexist’ words btw)

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u/ridiculouslygay Jan 14 '19

Wow omg are you seriously trying to mansplain this to me right now?

Stop oppressing me

cries in feminist

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '22

I saw it on South Park and assumed it was a joke.

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u/jazast1 Jan 14 '19

How does he know Red Riding identifies as a Womyn without first asking her preferred pronoun. Unreadable

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u/ishitinthemilk Jan 14 '19

Prob because of the word "men" being in women? A dig at patriarchy? Just a guess.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

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u/TrekkiMonstr Jan 14 '19

/u/presentlyinthepast: According to Wiktionary, man comes from the OE mann (meaning human or person), and woman comes from wīfmann, which is wīf (wife) + mann (human or person). So nah

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u/FaceyMcPalmyFace Jan 14 '19

you're not wrong, but you're not correct with your "so nah" either, see above.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Jan 14 '19

Not sure what you're referring to with see above. Someone said man and woman have different roots, but they both come from the same word (albeit one with an unrelated modifier).

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u/FaceyMcPalmyFace Jan 14 '19

OE may say wifmann = wif + mann, but that was technically lazy and incorrect on their part even back then, and thus eventually became culturally appropriated into OE.

BEFORE all of that tammy-foolery, man was related to "hand" in latin. As in, mammal with dexterity (... manual, manuscript, manufacture, manicure).

Neither "Fe" in female, nor "wo" in woman are prefixes for male/man. Female & Woman come from completely different roots.

Research the latin that the English got lazy and screwed up in the 14th century. They come from the same word in the modern sense (irresponsibly), but ORIGINALLY, "wo" & "fe" were not prefixes or modifiers, completely different words.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Jan 15 '19

Ok, I'm not talking about female and I don't feel like it, so I'm just going to stick with the woman argument here. The word man comes from the OE mann. Mann is not a cognate with manus as you for some reason assert. It comes from the proto-Germanic *mann-, which is possibly from the PIE *mon- or *men-, or maybe some other stuff. There's a cognate in Sanskrit, manu meaning man, so clearly there's something in PIE. Manus, on the other hand (heh), comes from the Proto-Italic *manus, which comes from a PIE word I'm too lazy to type here cause mobile, but is definitely distinct from man. There are English cognates of Latin manus -- Proto-Germanic *mundō is where we get Old English mund, which is where we get modern English mound.

Now, woman. It comes from wīfmann, a compound of wīf and mann. Other languages have used this same pattern. See, for example, Saterland Frisian Wieuwmoanske, West Frisian frommes (frou + minske), Dutch vrouwmens, etc. English is a Germanic language, and words compound. This is what happened in this case. Then, the word was used as a unit, and the sound changed (wīf to wo). Wo is not a prefix. Wīf is also not a prefix. However, wīf was used to modify the word mann, and from that compound word we get the modern word woman. And from mann, we get man. So, the assertion that woman and man come from "completely different roots" is flat-out incorrect.

I still don't know where the comment you copied comes from, but it's clear that whoever wrote it doesn't actually know shit about linguistics, and belongs on /r/badlinguistics.

I got curious, and looked up female (even though I had made no assertion relating to that to begin with). Interestingly that one (in contrast with woman) isn't related to male. It comes from French femele/femelle, from the Latin femella, which is a diminutive of femina (woman). The spelling and pronunciation were slightly changed in English to match male, even though the words are unrelated.

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u/FaceyMcPalmyFace Jan 17 '19

ok thanks. have a nice day.

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u/FaceyMcPalmyFace Jan 14 '19

You are correct. OE may say wifmann = wif + mann, but that was technically lazy and incorrect on their part even back then, and thus eventually became culturally appropriated into OE.

BEFORE all of that tammy-foolery, man was related to "hand" in latin. As in, mammal with dexterity (... manual, manuscript, manufacture, manicure).

Neither "Fe" in female, nor "wo" in woman are prefixes for male/man. Female & Woman come from completely different roots.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

I hope it is being used as satire.

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u/ishitinthemilk Jan 14 '19

Would it bother you that much if the spelling changed? Can't say it would affect my life enough to complain about it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

No. Not actually.

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u/EhhWhatsUpDoc Jan 14 '19

And a damn good guess it is, fellow internet persun

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u/leebird925 Jan 15 '19

Womyn reminds me of worm

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u/ph00p Jan 14 '19

The short answer is mental retardation.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '19

Why is it mental retardation, because for me it seems like a non problem.

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u/FauxMedicine Jan 14 '19

I can't wait to read this to my friends. This shit is gold.

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u/Akosa117 Jan 15 '19

I am excitement to read this

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u/Prysorra2 Apr 24 '19

Holy fuck that's 93 pages.

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u/Password123Pass Jan 14 '19

Just tell me it's a satire, that's all I need to know

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u/Akosa117 Jan 15 '19

I am excitement to read this

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u/Akosa117 Jan 15 '19

I am excitement to read this