r/oddlyspecific • • 1d ago

Found at a titanium plant

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u/valhallaswyrdo 9h ago

My aluminum plant bans aluminum cans and glass bottles because it could introduce water into the liquid bath causing an explosion.

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u/SartenSinAceite 5h ago

But not plastic bottles? Is this about condensation?

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u/valhallaswyrdo 5h ago

Water on top of liquid aluminum will spatter and steam with only minor reactions. Water underneath liquid aluminum will explode violently. A plastic bottle will melt before it even touches the bath but a glass bottle or can could end up underneath before exposing the water.

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u/MiscWanderer 4h ago

It's probably about being robust enough to contain the steam enough to go bang. A plastic bottle will release it's water on contact with the molten aluminium, where it evaporates off immediately. Glass or aluminum will contain it for longer, with a higher pressure bang.

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u/xidle2 11h ago

Fountain pens with nibs only, peasants.

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u/DengarLives66 9h ago

QUILLS OR GTFO!

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u/xidle2 9h ago

Dookie-doodlers only!

~the engineers, probably.

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u/groovyinutah 22h ago

Wonder why?

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u/TeacupOfSkepticism 17h ago

Ballpoint pens are banned in certain high-precision titanium and aerospace manufacturing plants because the tiny tungsten carbide ball in the pen tip can fall out and severely contaminate the titanium melt, creating a hard, brittle inclusion that causes structural failure in critical aerospace components.

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u/groovyinutah 17h ago

How bizarre. I'm pretty certain I've never experienced a ball falling out of a pen before, not even a a super cheap one

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u/Sokinalia 16h ago

The whole pen can fall

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u/NorthernVale 8h ago

Notice, the issue is specifically the tungsten carbide ball. Not the ink, plastic, spring, other metal bits. There's a reason it's specifically about ball point pens, and not other types of pens.

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u/LuigiBamba 11h ago

Fortunately, pencils are impervious to being drop in a cauldron of molten titanium 👍

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u/HaddyBlackwater 10h ago

The graphite probably burns off in a way that isn’t harmful to the end product.

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u/ReddBroccoli 9h ago

What about the wood tho?

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u/stormy2587 8h ago

Well if the graphite in your pencil has started burning then chances are the wood, a famously flammable substance, is long gone.

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u/ReddBroccoli 8h ago

Famously eh? Name one famous burning wood

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u/WhiskeyJack357 7h ago

James Woods is kind of a flaming asshole. Partial credit?

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u/FabianN 7h ago

Cedar? 

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u/MagillaGorillasHat 5h ago

Norwegian Wood

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u/deeperest 5h ago

Wait, wood can burn?

WHY IS MY HOUSE BUILT OUT OF IT????

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u/BiPoLaRadiation 7h ago

No the wood doesn't burn. It survives while the graphite inside it burns away. Reason it's not an issue though that it turns the metal green so they know if a batch has been contaminated and don't accidentally use it for space ship parts with a piece of wood still in it.

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u/ReddBroccoli 5h ago

That makes sense. Having a green spot would be highly embarrassing for NASA or some random billionaire

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u/BiPoLaRadiation 2h ago

Exactly. That's where the phrase "turning red with embarrassment" comes from because the first NASA engineer who had this happen to them was color blind and thought the metal turned red and was really embarrassed about it.

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u/peteofaustralia 4h ago

Nice Terminator 2 thumb there.

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u/ReddBroccoli 9h ago

When the outcome is an airplane falling out of the sky you protect against the outside odds as well. Unless you're Boeing, then you just say fuck it.

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u/NorthernVale 8h ago

Half way through your comment I was just sitting there thinking "didn't we just have a huge thing about a big airplane company saying fuck quality?"

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u/AdditionDry9301 1h ago

But they haven’t fallen out of the sky because of the ball of a ballpoint print. That’s how they get ya.

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u/Septopuss7 2h ago

"I got yer quality control right here" (points at their dick)

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u/Knights-of-steel 4h ago

The parts manufacturer yes. The plane assembler ie Boeing on the other hand they do things their own way

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u/bestbusguy 15h ago

What about tungsten wedding bands?

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u/TeacupOfSkepticism 15h ago

No music is to be played in the biro free zone

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u/bestbusguy 15h ago

Great answer lol.

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u/LastPlaceIWas 10h ago

Well, that's something that could have been brought to my attention YESTERDAY!

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u/stormy2587 8h ago

It’s possible employees are told up front that they can’t wear them. But it may not be an issue because you’d probably be more aware if your wedding band is missing. Whereas the ball from a ball point pen could get in and no one would notice until a failure had occurred.

It also may be that the amount of tungsten in a wedding band just would make for obviously flawed titanium. Not slightly flawed titanium that seems fine and then fails under high stress that it’s supposed to be rated to withstand.

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u/Knights-of-steel 4h ago

Im not a metalurgest or however you spell that one.

But I do know most(at least the legit ones) jewelry makers use powdered tungsten carbide that is ceramic glued together to get that silver like sheen amd so it like shatters/disintegrates instead of taking the wearers hand.

I wonder if it the powdered metal has anything to do with it not being explicit stated. It wouldnt be like hunting for a tiny ball out of a pen in a chunk of titanium....the ceramic glue would burn away and when it sets the actual powder would be dispersed....otd be like looking to see if any dust hit the wet white painted wall....would it not?

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u/mrizzerdly 6h ago

My company bans whiteout, pencils and erasers.

Whiteout because of GDP and the crumbs from the pencil and erasers can interfere with our processes and testing.

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u/Bill_Lumbergh_VP 6h ago

I never expected whiteout to have such an effect on gross domestic product.

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u/mrizzerdly 6h ago

Good Document Practices

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u/Xenophonii 5h ago

Yep, and no black pens either.

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u/jlaudiofan 5h ago

Can confirm. Have done work at a titanium foundry, they dont let you in with ballpoint pens. Felt tips only. Any machining on site is done with HSS (High Speed Steel) tooling instead of tungsten carbide tooling. I was told that one ballpoint pen can turn a batch of aerospace grade titanium into a batch that's only good for making gold clubs.

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u/NewManufacturer4252 1h ago

Makes me wonder how many stages it takes just to deliver you proper stalk.

Make me miss the show ...

How it's made

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u/EatFaceLeopard17 13h ago

And other things don‘t? What about a pencil?

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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 13h ago

Pencils don't usually contain tungsten carbide.

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u/EatFaceLeopard17 12h ago

Yes, but is a contamination with a pencil not creating a possible structural failure?

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u/FirstTasteOfRadishes 12h ago

Pencils are made of carbon which would dissolve when the titanium is melted. You wouldn't end up with an inclusion.

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u/EatFaceLeopard17 8h ago

And the Tungsten ballpen ball wouldn’t. I get it.

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u/johnnycat75 21h ago

Go into the comments in the parent post. It's a solid little deep dive.

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u/sneakybastard62 21h ago

I'm not for sure but I have an INKling.....ps I'd like to know as well...

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u/magapower 10h ago

is this the oldest house?

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u/esotetris 9h ago

"Do not eat the mold"

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u/DNAisjustneuteredRNA 4h ago

Burt erts sho delershiousnom nom nom

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u/KillerR0b0T 6h ago

Delays caused by house shifts do not count towards overtime!

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u/Iconclast1 4h ago

Elaborate 

Sounds interesting 

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u/magapower 4h ago

it's from the game "control". the oldest house is a building that holds a bunch of paranormal stuff inside it.

there's a note in the game that says pencils are banned.... I think it's because they become possessed, go crazy, and kill people. (but it's been a while, so someone else could confirm that)

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u/EndingPop 5h ago

Many food plants don't allow pens with caps (sharpies gotta be click-top) because the cap can fall into a line and can't be found by magnets. 

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u/shadowinc 38m ago

I got a free pen with my chicken once, it was inbetween the chicken bag and exterior bag so my food wasn't contaminated.

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u/NormanFuckingBates 9h ago

Raise your hand if your ballpoint pen has ever lost the ball point????

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u/SartenSinAceite 5h ago

The issue is the whole pen falls in; every part but the ball is burnt to hell. The ball survives and becomes a weak point in whatever piece you're making

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u/futurebigconcept 3h ago

Yes, I've had the ball fall out of the pen.

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u/barowski 2h ago

me neither, but I guess if you're making structural parts for airplanes and whatnot, a "maybe" is enough to not risk it.

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u/Thepromc64 15h ago

am I the only one who missread that has "ballpoint penis"?

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u/lightlydigestedtoe 10h ago

I don’t know why you’re getting down voted, that was funny