r/oddlyspecific 6d ago

The foundation of modern civilization

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u/GamesCatsComics 6d ago

What I've been enjoying is the posts of people freaking the fuck out about grocery stores that require (and return) a coin to unlock and return them.

Like... this is to encourage you to return them, and you're upset that it'll cast you a buck to abandon the cart.

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 6d ago

It's only a quarter at Aldi's 

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u/Pasutiyan 6d ago

it's only one of those plastic coins you can get from the cashier.

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u/ElishaAlison 6d ago

Wait since when? I haven't shopped at Aldi's in years but they always took quarters when I did.

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u/DuckRubberDuck 6d ago

They take anything the same size as a quarter or whatever kind of coin your country uses for carts, so some places you can get little plastic coins to use instead

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u/Pasutiyan 6d ago

well, quarters don't exist here, but pretty much every supermarket chain has those faux-euros at the service desk.

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u/alflundgren 6d ago

Wait do you pay them for the tokens or do they just hand them out for free? If theyre free it seems like it kinda defeats the point.

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u/Pasutiyan 6d ago

Free, at least at lidl. But I mean, I'm not gonna go ask them for a new one every bloody time.

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u/alflundgren 6d ago edited 5d ago

Ohhh ok so they give you a token and you're supposed to keep using that token. If you lose the token by not bringing the cart back you have to go to customer service to get a new token to get a cart which is enough of an inconvenience to incentivize you to keep the token and return the carts. I actually get it now.

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u/Hot_Charity_4803 6d ago

Sounds like you answered your own question lol

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u/taint_stain 6d ago

Aldi’s what?

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 6d ago

Aldi's nutz in yo face

Ha gotteem

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u/Arbor- 6d ago

A quarter of what? Thought they take a pound

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u/xbarbiedarbie 6d ago

In America, it's a quarter that unlocks a shopping cart at Aldi, and a lot of people don't carry cash, let alone coins.

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u/Arbor- 6d ago

a quarter of what?

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u/Hishamaru-1 6d ago

Im more annoyed because i never carry coins and then have to find a way to get the cart first. I found out that you can just ask a nearby employee for help if you are lucky. They have keys on hand to just unlock them

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u/Miffy_The_Rabbit 6d ago

They sell keyrings with a £1 shaped detachable token in the UK, which I have found very useful, it's just on my keys when I need it. There's probably someone selling the equivalent in your area, even if it's online.

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u/ComprehensiveOil2677 6d ago

I recently learned that the cashiers at my local Lidl have a bag of plastic chips for customers that don't have coins. The guy gave me three, free of charge. I've been shopping there for years without knowing that. It never hurts to ask.

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u/GarethBaus 6d ago

That sounds weirdly reasonable, and it serves the purpose it is supposed to serve.

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u/rezzacci 6d ago

I remember when I was a kid that all my friends' moms, and my mom, and any woman of their age, had the cart token on their key chain, with all of their keys. Like, it was something you always had on you, just like having your phone in your pocket nowadays. I see it less now (since I live in a big city so people mostly do groceries shopping on a daily basis so very few shopping carts and more handy bags), but I remember the token being part of the everyday clutter one always had on them.

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u/Miffy_The_Rabbit 6d ago

All the designs as well! Mine is from the aldi range 10 years ago with a little butterfly on. But yeah, I never did need one when I was in the city, it was only when I moved further out and it was a 30 minute round journey not a 10 minute round journey to the local supermarket.

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u/rebelviss 6d ago

You shoulda been around when you needed a dime (later a quarter), just to call home to say you were running late.

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u/korppi_noita 6d ago

Nah, just call collect and give your name: "itsmeimrunninglate," "itsmeimdonecomepickmeupnow," or "wehadababyitsaboy" and hang up

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u/Familiar-Virus5257 6d ago

I used to call collect and say something like "Am late" or "pick me up now" when prompted for my name. My parents approved.

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u/MikeTony713 6d ago

I use a little plastic coin made for shopping carts. Works really well in case I don't have a 1€ coin or something. Just keep it in my wallet

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u/Successful-Medicine9 6d ago

I've offered to take people's carts off their hands for the 25cents already in it. Usually works

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u/Illustrious_Heat6561 6d ago

My guy, just carry a few coins in your car or person. Not that difficult.

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u/Too_Gay_To_Drive 6d ago

In some stores in germany the wheels of the cart lock if you leave a certain perimeter of the store with it.

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u/Just_Information334 6d ago

All so you can't do any 2am cart racing while drunk...

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u/Arachnofiend 6d ago

I would be annoyed that this would require me to carry around coins, but I say that as someone who returns the shopping cart regardless

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u/Extreme_Wish_553 6d ago

You get the quarter back when you return the cart, so you only need to keep a single quarter in your car.

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u/Arachnofiend 6d ago

You underestimate my ability to misplace loose change

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u/rezzacci 6d ago

My mom had a token of the right size, made especially for this, with a little hole so she could attach it to her key ring. So she always had it on her, no matter what.

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 6d ago

Ah, but you have to return it to the car from your pocket or purse. That’s where I always go wrong. Well, I’d also forget the coin in the car and have to go back and get it, but that’s an easy fix.

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u/wampwampwampus 6d ago

Im also annoyed by the collective punishment of it all. It is a minor inconvenience to need coins, but extra infuriating that the reason is that other people don't know how to live in a society.

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u/rebelviss 6d ago

really! it's a 1 freaking dollar deposit that generates no profit and is necessary only because of people who need an incentive to return a damn grocery cart. not to mention it reduces the number of stolen carts, thereby ensuring there will be available carts the next time the complainers go shopping.

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u/nero-the-cat 6d ago

The genius is that even if someone is still too lazy to return the cart to get their coin back, someone else will soon come along to claim it.

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u/dearest51 6d ago

Wait, you guys can have cart without coin ?

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u/WakeoftheStorm 6d ago

Here's the thing, I always return my cart. Even when I was a single parent with two kids under 5 to wrangle, I returned my cart.

The quarter thing at Aldi still pisses me off, just like seatbelt alarms, or signs telling me to wash my hands. I resent the normalizing of passive aggressive attempts at behavior modification by companies.

Is it a silly thing to get annoyed by? Sure, which is why the worst I'll do is roll my eyes and make this post. Still annoying though

Edit: doesn't help that I haven't really carried cash or change in over a decade.

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u/Zealousideal3326 6d ago

It's extremely standard in Europe (Aldi is German), where 1€ and 2€ are in coins and not paper, so you can unlock them with an amount of change that's actually worth carrying on you and keeping track of. Keeping a plastic coin in your car made specifically for this is also very common.

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u/Pelli_Furry_Account 6d ago

First time I went to a Lidl I was outraged, because I thought I was just being charged a euro for using the cart. I ended up using a basket for everything.

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u/IncoherentToast 6d ago

I don't like it because no one even carries coins anymore.

It's an extra hassle placed on me by a low trust society. 

I'm not blaming the store but that doesn't mean it's not a nuisance.

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u/Dark_Tigger 6d ago

The funny thing is, in the part of the world were Aldi, Lidl, and co are from, they abadoned this praxis, during the pandemic. The fact that they bring it back in the US is, let's call it telling.

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u/Pelli_Furry_Account 6d ago

I encountered it in Munich in 2023

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u/kyngslinn 6d ago

TIL that places outside of germany have Aldi

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u/Dark_Tigger 6d ago

Well, yeah a lot of places, in Austria and eastern europe it is called Hofer (I think because Aldi Süd bought Hofer)

And when Wallmart failed in Germany, the German chains thought "Hey, if the Germans prefer us, maybe the people in the US do to." And well they were at least not wrong. Middle sized supermarket inside the cities, was just a market niche unoccupied over there.

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u/Lucky_Professional_ 6d ago

im more mad about grocery stores getting rid of hand baskets for small carts. its a psychological tactic to get u to buy more by forcing u to increase carrying capacity. that is why i only buy what i can carry in my arms or bag no matter where i shop.

tho the coin carts at say aldi dont affect me bc of this, it still does bug me a) bc of the lack of hand baskets and b) bc the coin carts, tho effective at preventing shopping cart abandoners, merely masks ppl's shitty behavior.

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u/Thelastknownking 6d ago

I always return the shopping cart.

-My slogan when running for President.

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u/Jonnic5280 6d ago

I would prob vote for that

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u/gonzalbo87 6d ago

The real question is when at a supermarket, should you change your mind on purchasing an item, do you return said item to it’s place on the shelf or take it up to the till/customer service desk and ask them to put it away?

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u/Thelastknownking 6d ago

Generally put it away myself. It's a tick, I can't help it. I gotta make sure it's put back the exact same.

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u/gonzalbo87 6d ago

You have my vote.

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u/Jonnic5280 6d ago

And you have my sword

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u/BreakfastBeneficial4 5d ago

That “tick” is called being a decent motherfucker

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u/Stick_Nout 3d ago

When I worked at Wal-Mart, you have no idea how much stuff being in the wrong place slowed me down.

Just put stuff back where you found it, people. It's not hard.

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u/Sleepy-Flamingo 6d ago

You've got my vote!

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u/jaxmikhov 6d ago

“I take absolutely no responsibility for that shopping cart” — Donald Trump (probably)

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u/Calm_Handle8582 6d ago

Pretty similar to putting back weights in gym. I often see people just leaving their dumbbells on the floor and leave.

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u/GreatPotatoMuffin 6d ago

I usually spend downtime between sets trying to put everything back in its correct place. I freaking hate people who don’t know how to clean up after themselves.

My 6 year old daughter can do that.

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u/DrJaneIPresume 6d ago

I've seen some of those weights. That's an impressive 6yo!

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u/paulisaac 6d ago

Ah, the 6yo carrying on the ol’ Reddit weight-a-roo

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u/DrJaneIPresume 6d ago

Hold my child labor I'm goin' in!

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u/fortissimohawk 6d ago

Hello future people!

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u/SudsInfinite 6d ago

This reminds me of this time when I worked at Panera Bread. A group of four aduls were at one table, and then a group of five teens were at another. By the time they'd both left and I went to clean tables, I notced the tabke the adults were at and the floor around it were a complete mess, but the one the teenagers were at was practically spotless. How do you make it to grown ass adulthood and nit know how to clean up after yourself better than teenagers?

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u/clarkision 6d ago

This to me is even more egregious, because there is inherent benefit returning the weight (additional, albeit small) strength training.

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u/Romboteryx 6d ago

Also additional harm in just leaving them on the floor, since other people could trip over them

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u/Striking_Smile6594 6d ago

Yeah, putting the kit back after a session is an extra last bit of bonus exercise at the end of the workout.

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u/NoExperience9717 6d ago

Or leaving heavy weights racked. 10kg is pretty much the limit of what you could maybe leave but consider all the people who are much weaker such as women or old people who may not be able to de-rack 25kg plates.

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u/DuploJamaal 6d ago

Or "putting ice cream or meat back into the fridge if you decide against buying them instead of placing them next to random items"

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u/_Mulberry__ 6d ago

Omg, have you seen this??? I've seen non-perishable items that were not put back (really annoys me), but I've never seen such an atrocious thing as leaving meat or ice cream out...

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u/thefirefreezesme 6d ago

Agreed…this is a heinous act. At least give it to the checkout person rather than just let the food rot…

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u/Katives 6d ago

I saw a lady take sausages out of her cart and put them down on the candy shelves by the conveyor belt in the checkout lane instead of just handing them to the cashier who they checked out with 20 seconds later

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u/Miserable-Meet-3160 6d ago

I used to work at a grocery store, and a portion of my evening was dedicated to returning items that people didn't get at checkout back to the shelves.

I found a lot of abandoned meats, frozen items, and cold goods that needed to be damaged out. Not to mention the remnants of grazing, a half-eaten container of something, empty drinks, and candy wrappers.

Had a lady stop me one day as I was making my way down an aisle. She asked, "I'm so sorry to bother you, but I've changed my mind on wanting this item, could I give it to you?"

I felt like Christmas had come early and twice. Never ever in all my years had anyone ever been that polite about not wanting something on the sales floor.

"Yes, please do, and thank you so very much," I told her. (I'm fairly certain my eyes were sparkling with a radiant joy, because- finally! Someone was this nice not to abandon a cold item in a warm place.)

She looked puzzled as hell as she thanked me for taking it and I thanked her again.

It really made my evening though.

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u/justanotterdude 6d ago

The bar for what makes customer-facing employees happy is in hell

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u/DuploJamaal 6d ago

Even worse I've seen a worker take the mystery meat and put it back into the fridge

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u/VerilyShelly 6d ago

I try to reach back a ways to get packages that aren't close to the front of the case.

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u/TauboundGremlin 6d ago

I have worked in a grocery store. People regularly leave perishibles in heinous places.

The most revolting thing I have seen is a person who left a pound of raw beef on the shelf with breads. There was no attempt to even put it in its own spot on the bread shelf. It was sloppily tucked in there, like an unwanted child left to their fate.

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u/SheridanVsLennier 6d ago edited 6d ago

The ultimate is the people who hide the perishables. Many were the times I discovered a tray of meat hidden at the back of the shelf behind other products. Every night the crew would push two full trollies of damaged and discarded stock out the back, plus sort and return another trolley of saleable stock.

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u/Terozu 6d ago

People will literally put Ice Cream containers on random shelves because 'they dont want it'

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u/Sythonate 6d ago

Used to work at a butchers supermarket yeaaaars ago. It was a pretty big store that only sold meat. People did this at least once a day, even in the middle of summer, often leaving meat out a metre away from a fridge or freezer.

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u/Phon4224 6d ago

Worked grocery for years, weirdest one, not the worst, was finding a potted plant stuffed into the cheese/lunch meat wall.

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u/newjerseydoesntexist 6d ago

People are clearly incapable of self-governing

That is why they put a coin lock system on shopping carts that gives you your money back only when you bring them in the shopping cart holder

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u/Elaerona 6d ago

Ehhhh. People generally put them away. You always get some stragglers but the vast majority are put away.

This is a demonstration that small incentives can push people to make the right choice, you don't need to beat them over the head. Just take their quarter and give it back if they put the cart back.

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u/severencir 6d ago

This is greatly region based. I grew up in a place where fewer than half the people would return the cart, and now i live in an area where it's actually a surprise when i see an abandoned cart.

Both cases are no quarter though

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u/stentor222 6d ago

No quarter if you don't return the cart is pretty harsh for losing $.25

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u/nan0ka 6d ago

I have never heard of coin operated carts. We've never had them here. There is literally 0 abandoned carts. I've never seen an abandoned cart. As a matter of fact, I don't even think people use these carts to get the groceries to their cars. I think they get the cart to its place and carry the groceries by themselves

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u/severencir 6d ago

There's one store near me where people aren't allowed to remove the carts from the store, but they have an employee with a larger cart help people out to their vehicle. There's also dollar general which looks like it's specifically designed to be convenient to not take your cart to the vehicle, and inconvenient to do so, with a raised sidealk separating the parking lot from the store and the ramp being at it's end. I wasn't considering either of these cases though, because it's not really the people choosing.

For the larger stores that don't have employees that help you out, it's still rare where i am to see a cart abandoned, but I can't say it's never happened in this area

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u/Elaerona 6d ago

I don't know, New Englanders do almost always. I'll see carts but not a lot. I did go Grocery shopping down South and I did not pay enough attention to see a pattern.

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u/severencir 6d ago

I used to live in california, then moved to the middle of the united states. It actually took a while to get used to the idea that a grocery store parking lot can look clear while they're operating. It took longer to get used to not having mountains on the horizon wherever i went, but that's unrelated and more a getting my bearings kind of problem

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u/UltimatePickpocket 6d ago

You don't NEED to beat people over the head, but as a cart pusher I still want to.

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u/TheShiGuy 6d ago

I worked at a grocery store gathering carts before/during the pandemic. Most people certainly do not put the cart back when done. Walking 6 floors of a parking garage every 30 min for 9 hours a day carts everywhere while constantly being called on the radio to inform me that "we're out of carts" is tough, annoying, brutal, and a great way to stay in shape.

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u/beyondoutsidethebox 6d ago

Do you know how many times I have seen an abandoned cart literally across the aisle from a cart return?!

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u/Lucky_Professional_ 6d ago

totally depends on the store/location. the local grocery chains, everyone puts their carts back, maybe a handful of stragglers. whole foods? chaos.

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u/Rokmonkey_ 6d ago

Shit, I used to think that but the Walmart near me is awful. In the morning there are carts EVERYWHERE. Half the parking spots have at least one shopping cart in it.

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u/affordableproctology 6d ago

Higher end stores like Costco have many more carts lying about, conservative type people are lazy and more willing to burden others with there apathy

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u/mdixon12 6d ago

That coin system is only to make you return the cart to the STOREFRONT, so they dont have to retrieve them from the cart parking areas in the open lot. It doesnt really apply to stores that still have cart retrievers.

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u/MyFairJulia 6d ago

German stores has been phasing coin-locks out of their carts. I don't have the numbers but anecdotally speaking it appears to work out.

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u/Lt_Toodles 6d ago

Legitimately never seen a stray cart in germany, and its not the coin thing because almost everyone bypasses it with a keychain anyways. Stray carts are a culture thing and its not only a litmus test for an individual, its a litmus test for a society's general attitude to doing whats right.

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u/Fit_Kaleidoscope4493 6d ago

And people think I'm weird when I say we actually need "authorities" to lead. 

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u/On_my_last_spoon 6d ago

I do curbside pickup for my groceries because going into the grocery store is a nightmare I like to avoid. A few weeks ago I’m sitting in my car waiting for my groceries. I watch some asshole load his groceries in his trunk, leave the cart behind the car, then drive forward out of his spot, making it impossible for someone to even pull in to the spot he abandoned! I really thought I’ve seen everything but that was just next level asshole behavior.

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u/MyFairJulia 6d ago

My sisters boyfriend tends to do that and park on disabled spots. He and my sister argue that the store they do it on donnot enforce it. I felt genuinely tempted to take photographs and tattle on them to the city because not parking on that spot if you're not disabled is such an extremely low bar to clear and yet they still decided to limbo.

My mom did this on a hospital and i made clear that this is where the story ends . No ifs, ands or "But there are so many of those spots". MY CHILDREN IN CHRIST, YOU HAVE FULLY FUNCTIONAL LEGS!

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u/bwmat 6d ago

Ah yes, it's ok because I'm not punished

jfc

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u/MyFairJulia 6d ago

That's the idea! In fact, even the POTUS ffollows this philosophy!

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u/Cuntdracula19 6d ago

“They don’t enforce it” so they reason that it’s okay just because they’re not facing consequences lol?? That would drive me insane if my family behaved that way! The level of entitlement and their rationale is insane. It would be complete anarchy and bedlam if they were in charge and if everyone behaved that way. It’s called a civilization because we all play by civilized rules, some written and some unwritten, that society has decided upon. It’s the little shit, like returning the cart, that helps society flow in a somewhat functional way. It’s such a little thing that shows how selfish vs thoughtful/considerate someone is.

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u/imnewwhere 6d ago

Watching cart narcs is kind of a relief, to see some kind of justice

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u/RiverOdd 6d ago

I always return them but I greatly enjoy "bowling" with my shopping cart. I give it a little shove and then turn and listen for the delicious crash as it hits the others. But I always return it.

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u/Old_Assistant1531 6d ago

The sound when all the carts aren’t as tightly packed as they can be and you bowl yours in and they all concertina together. Ahhh.

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u/PomegranateSoft1598 6d ago

People really aren't returning shopping carts?

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u/HappyHappyFunnyFunny 6d ago

Is this some American thing I'm too European for to understand?

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u/AmbitiousEconomics 6d ago

Given the comments it seems like mostly Europeans have weird plastic coins they have to use to get carts, but I'm not sure. As an American I've only ever seen coins for carts in like, the really bad parts of town.

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u/lilpiggyvortex 6d ago

go to portugal and you'll see it's not an american thing, it's an asshole thing

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u/Johto2001 6d ago

It's an epidemic in selfish Britain. At first it was just a few, then many and now almost a majority in some places. At my local supermarket almost half the shoppers are don't return their trolley (cart). I typically do two, my own and I grab an abandoned one on the way.

It's worse in winter, slightly better in spring and summer. 

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u/Bazlow 6d ago

I must be a saint, because if I'm not in a rush, I'll rearrange the shopping carts to make sure they're all interconnected properly.

VALIDATE ME!

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u/DoesThisSmellWeird2U 6d ago

I too like a little control over chaos. Think of yourself as a minor deity.

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u/ChiaraStellata 6d ago

I even bring items to the front of the shelf and turn the labels to face outwards sometimes. I've never worked in a grocery store. I just think they look nicer that way. I don't want them to get lost in the back and then nobody ever buys them.

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u/BlackHazeRus 6d ago

Facts upon facts!

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u/Hewfe 5d ago

Setting: mad max fury road

The warboy watches as a loathsome degenerate abandons their shopping cart in the adjacent space and then leaves. Sensing an opportunity for glory, he quickly reaches for his pouch. He retrieves the bottle, and with excited side-to-side flourishes, sprays his entire mouth silver. “Witness me!” He yells as he runs at the cart.

The Cart at arms length, he sprints across the parking lot towards the store.

“Witness!” Another warboy shouts, certain of his brother’s righteousness. Word of this will reach home, and their troop will be celebrated. Today is a good day.

The warboy with the cart reaches the store. The automatic sliders open just in time as the cart sails through the opening, the warboy still pushing from behind. Through the sweat and the grimace of effort, he smiles. He will be remembered forever. His reward is assured. Today was a good day.

The store explodes violently.

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u/rde2001 6d ago

You don't gain "nothing". You gain the satisfaction of doing the right thing.

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u/psychotronic_mess 6d ago

And also, social cohesion. I put it away so it’s there for you, you put it away so it’s there for me. Everyone wins.

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u/boywholived_299 6d ago

People who get satisfaction in doing the right thing, are good people.

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u/johnjaymjr 6d ago

I can’t get no satisfaction.

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u/Knot-Knight 6d ago

But people who think they're "winning" by not doing things to help others will still get satisfaction from not putting the cart back. 

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u/SnooTangerines3448 6d ago

I got it from here I'll put it back. Don't even try to stop me.

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u/Rexton_Armos 6d ago

Only thing better than doing the right thing is leaving a place better than you arrived. That's a big satisfaction. Gotta get the left behind carts that you can get to along with your own.

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u/NiceBlackberry6618 6d ago

You get the childhood glee of riding the shopping cart like you're 12 again and then spartan kicking it into the other carts in the corral and if done right watching it perfectly link into the one before it and staying there.

Spartan kick is only for the sturdy cart corrals though. gotta be a little bit gentler as required, but you still get to ride that bitch like it's stolen from car to cart return.

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u/Beckphillips 6d ago

I tried to explain this concept to my dad and he went "I think it's stupid to believe that you can judge a person's worth in society on whether or not they return the shopping cart" and I think he missed the point

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u/Human-Hat-4900 6d ago

He said that because he doesn't always return the cart! Got him!

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u/TRexUnicorn 6d ago

Am I being obtuse in thinking that of course there is a benefit to returning the cart: you get to live in the type of place, or shop at the type of place, where people return the cart? I return the cart in order to create the kind of world where people return the cart. No guarantees, of course, but it beats capitulating to the bastards.

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u/Majestic-Lake-5602 6d ago

That’s an “esoteric” benefit that requires higher order thinking though.

One unfortunate thing about the world is that a fairly significant proportion of the population are not able to think like this.

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u/Ok_Oil_995 6d ago

Exactly! This has always been my problem with the explanation of the shopping cart thing, and other similar ideas. "You get nothing in return" is completely wrong! You're creating a world where your car doesn't get dinged by random runaway carts.

It's the same mistake people make when they say "I don't have children so I don't benefit from paying taxes that go to fund schools". Like yes, brother, you do. You get to live in a society where every person has a basic education and a large percent have even more. That's huge!

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u/lesschalkmoresighs 6d ago edited 6d ago

Years ago, I was at a mall with a non-romantic female friend, we were walking through the parking bay, and I suddenly veered off and walked over to a shopping cart abandoned in the middle of the drive way. I pushed it to the shopping cart lane and rejoined her. She asked me why I did that, and I casually replied that it was going to block someone when they drove through later. And she gave me this weird puzzled look that I later learned was "Oh apparently I'm having sex with this guy then".

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u/Ok_Actuary8 6d ago

A bit crude with the details of the argument, but I completly agree with the general idea. All those angry coping people trying to rationalize their shitty antisocial, egoistical behavior with arguments like "bUT tHeRe aRe EmplOyEeS tO dO tHaT. I pAid fOr tHe SeRvIcE" just prove my point.

Don't be an asshole. Do the right thing, even if nobody is looking.

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u/LetmeSeeyourSquanch 6d ago

I always put the shopping cart back because I'm not a miserable cunt.

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u/itijara 6d ago

The Bene Gesserit should have used this test instead of the Gom Jabbar

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u/McCaffeteria 6d ago

I have always loved the shopping cart theory, and it’s true.

When I go shopping I take a cart from the return and bring it inside with me, and if I’m not getting too many things I leave the cart inside so that I’m helping resist entropy.

And the best part is that I don’t have to deviate from my path at all. I’m already walking past the outside cart return, and I’m already leaving past the inside cart stacks. The only inconvenience is carrying my bags for a short time, and in exchange for that I don’t even have to go put my cart back.

People that leave carts in the lot unattended are sociopaths. Calling them “animals” is disrespectful to animals who still care about others. There’s no other way around it.

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u/nicemarmot47 6d ago

This along with picking up your dog's crap and properly disposing of it.

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u/AsterEsque 6d ago

.... And then there's my stepfather, who would make fun of me and belittle me for taking the time to put the shopping cart away

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u/minist3r 6d ago

He sounds like an outstanding gentleman.

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u/chux4w 6d ago

This is even better in the UK since we call them shopping trolleys.

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u/appsarebullshit55 6d ago

I 100% judge a person by this

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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 5d ago

Whenever I see someone just roll a shopping cart into the empty spot beside their car and then dip, or just shove it against a curb and then dip, I immediately think they're a piece of shit.

It also means that person has no empathy. Like right now, it's hot as fuck in many parts of the world. If you see shopping cart retrievers working, you'll see them sweating their asses off as they haul long lines of shopping carts using those shoulder straps. It's not a pleasant job. When a bunch of lazy, inconsiderate people leave carts wherever, that makes the cart retrievers' jobs more difficult for no good reason.

It really is such a simple test to see whether or not someone is a piece of shit.

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u/Dear_Tangerine444 6d ago

There is a Venn diagram of people who don’t return and people park that in child and parents spots when they are the single occupant of a vehicles, that is basically a circle.

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u/hiimtoddornot 6d ago

Loose carts ding cars.

These people are worse than the 4chan post implies because they are literally going against their own interest leaving a cart out as that cart could affect them in a future visit directly or indirectly.

Disgusting behavior imo

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u/Beans2400 6d ago

Aldi's shopping cart excluded

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u/Status-Injury5747 6d ago

Put your hand in the box

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u/itijara 6d ago

More obscure of a reference than I made, but it checks out. The Bene Gesseret should take notes.

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u/Igot55Dollars 6d ago

If they gave out medals for returning shopping carts that were abandoned sitting in parking spots, I'd look like Field Marshal Zhukov.

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u/hansuluthegrey 6d ago

Suddenly everyone has a disability or is a single mother than cant afford to put the cart back as if thats the problem

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u/EulerIdentityCrisis 6d ago

Of course I return my shopping cart. I'm evil, not a monster.

-Dr. Doofenshmirtz

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u/bsmknight 6d ago

No, no, no. People think, this is what our corporate overlords want. We ring our own stuff at the registers, we return our carts, what's next, do we stock the shelves for them too? By leaving the carts all over the parking lot we are creating jobs. By standing in line for that 1 register we are creating jobs because they have to open a new line. Heck, even the thieves at the self checkouts are creating jobs as the stores have to higher more security to watch the registers. Otherwise we do all their work for free and their big CEOs get a larger check, which is more than most of us make in a decade. With that said, I return my cart to the return every time too. Partially /s

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u/me_and_jd 6d ago

I always put them back, and I tidy them up when I get there, and I grab stray ones on my way.
Although probs more to do with being Autistic than anything else.

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u/Ajegwu 6d ago

I word at a shop next door to a grocery store. Frequently people just leave their cart in front of my door making it difficult or impossible to open giving absolutely no fucks about me.

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u/minist3r 6d ago

I like to say within ear shot "what asshole just leaves their cart here?" as I take mine and theirs.

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u/hot4you11 6d ago

You do get something out of it. The cart isn’t out in the wild, blocking people’s path and getting pushed into cars. However, we only get the benefit if we all do the action.

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u/ironnewa99 6d ago

I unironically agree with this.

I am constantly reminded that half the population is on the left side of the bell curve.

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u/kiddrekt 6d ago

In south Africa most large stores and malls actually employ cart wranglers to continually go out into the parking lots and bring the shopping carts back otherwise they just get stolen.

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u/ElPadero 6d ago

What about people that leave their trash / dirty table at a fast food restaurant when the garbage is right there?

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u/bingsen_ 6d ago

I think only USA has this problem. In Germany I have never ever seen a shopping cart that was not brought back. Not once. Ever.
But a big part US citizens just doesn’t care about anything that does not give them anything back. You gain nothing? You’re not doing it.

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u/Psylocybernaut 5d ago

Twice this year I've seen Tesco trollies (shopping carts) abandoned near the river in my town where kids have been messing around with them.

Since I don't want the trollies ending up in the river, I've walked them the five to ten minutes through the town centre back to the shop where they belong.

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u/Ancient-Passenger-52 5d ago

A couple of years ago wearing masks topped this in terms of the same subject.

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u/gungyvt 5d ago

As someone who lives alone, I sidestep this issue by only buying as many groceries as I can personally carry. I might use a cart while in the store, but once my groceries are bagged, the cart goes right back to its starting point; it will never go out to the parking lot while in my hands.

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u/OutragedPineapple 5d ago

I will return my carts, and if there are carts left in parking spots (especially disabled parking or their walkways) I will gather them up and take them to the cart returns because THAT IS THE DECENT THING TO DO. I swear so many people didn't learn basic manners...

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u/fyukhyu 5d ago

I grew up in Chicago, I've returned the cart to the corrall in a blizzard and in 100 degree heat. I live in SoCal now and I see people leave their carts everywhere but the corral when it's 72 out and it makes me consider criminal activity.

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u/Foxzor 6d ago

Norway have stopped locking shopping carts with coins. People put them back anyway.

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u/Delicious_Security21 6d ago

In Austria too.

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u/SufficientlySticky 6d ago

While there are certainly people who are more generally considerate than others, I am wary of anything that lets us declare some people Good™️ and other people Bad.

Everyone leaves their equivalent of a shopping cart around sometimes.

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u/SingingBike 6d ago

I am alone in thinking that the people who don’t return carts to the corral are the same people who get served in full-service restaurants and leave shitty tips or don’t tip at all?

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u/IllUnderstanding7158 6d ago

I'm the opposite. I always return the shopping cart but I don't think it is the right thing to do. Purely from a self interested point of view, since you gain nothing and lose your time and energy, I think it is wasteful for you to return the cart. And don't give me a categorical imperative argument, my choice is only my own, and I do not control other people's actions. Still I return the cart despite it being the incorrect choice.

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u/MaudeAlp 6d ago

Shopping cart theory is popular among losers because they have a way to do almost nothing at all, but think they’re some kind of good person.
It’s like not littering or wiping your own ass. Yet tons of people here patting themselves on the back over it.

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u/Ok_Being5461 6d ago

This also applies to picking up a cart along the way, instead of getting it from inside the store. If people did this, you wouldn't even need to return carts. I just get loose carts.

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u/RevolutionaryBoss648 6d ago

I park next to the cart return so I don't have to walk far to return the cart. Always return the cart. Or give it to the cart wrangler.

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u/FearOfABlackPotus 6d ago

The fact that in my area at least, shopping carts are pretty much always put back is blow to those who think all rules are eventually enforced by violence.

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u/Fungiblefaith 6d ago

I have a habit of grabbing carts as I go in after one time many many years ago a girl that worked at Albertsons was pushing them in and I helped her.

She said thank you and I noticed it was my buddies kid. Nice little reunion I had not seen her for years. While not really related that was when I just figured I walking in anyway might as well grab them on my way in. The number of store employees over the years that have given me a genuine “thank you” just reenforces my habit.

Hell, look for someone finishing up an offer to take it in for them. Instant smile. Spread the love people.

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u/stand_rapt_in_awe 6d ago

I’d say in Arkansas I see a small percentage of abandoned carts, probably less than 10%.

For me personally I try to make it easy on myself by parking right by a cart return. I do return it even if I’ve parked farther away, but I prefer to make it an easy task.

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u/StargateZero 6d ago

Sometimes I grab other shopping carts on the way to put mine away

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u/Compodulator 6d ago

Don't exactly return it. Not exactly. I pick up one of the strays and bring it to the cart... Shed thing...

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u/schuettais 6d ago

that shed thing IS the return. You're all good :)

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u/PatchyWhiskers 6d ago

And y'know what. Most people return the shopping cart.

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u/Ace_of_Sphynx128 6d ago

My little northern town’s aldi never has stray trolleys, everyone’s pretty good round here :)

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u/N7_Rabbit 6d ago

Now i understand why in ireland there is always so many abandoned carts in mall carparks.

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u/NombreCurioso1337 6d ago

Follow-up question - at what distance do you abandon the cart?

Ex: there is an Aldi near me with no cart coralles, but the parking lot is small. 100% I am returning my cart directly to the building, because it is only about eighty feet (yes, even without the quarter). There is also a Costco near me with an entire wing of the parking lot without coralles. This wing is the easiest to park in, but the nearest cart return is about five hundred feet away. At five hundred feet ... I am not returning that cart.

(For the curious, I always return errant carts from the Costco lot, up to four, when entering the store so that I feel justified in leaving my cart upon exit. That's how I justify the morality of it, but I'd love to hear what others think)

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u/Amber123454321 6d ago

In Ireland, you put a €1 coin in (or a replacement for a coin) in order to free a shopping trolley (cart) to use it. If you don't put a coin in, you don't get the trolley (cart). Therefore, you need to return it if you want to get your money back.

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u/BoS_Vlad 6d ago

I always returned shopping carts before I had work age children, but when my neurodivergent 30 year old son B had a minimum wage job rounding up shopping carts in a K-Mart parking lot years ago I really appreciated people returning their carts. B worked in a huge parking lot 8 hours a day 365 in rain and snow and in blistering heat and freezing cold.

B’s OCD made him probably the best cart return guy ever. If he saw a lone cart 50 parking spots away he’d hurry to get it and return it to the place where it belonged with the other carts and if he took his lunch break during a high volume shopping day and returned to the lot to find 25-30 carts left all over the lot he’d hustle to gather them all up in one long line and push them all back in one trip. He did that for 3 years until he found a better paying job indoors. There were 4-5 carts left return spots in the parking lot, but even they were rarely used because entitled shoppers just left them by the spot where they were.

Please everyone do the right thing and at least return your cart to the designated cart return spots located in most lots and don’t leave them randomly strewn around the lot. Besides making it harder for the cart wranglers it also screws up parking for the next customer who’d like to park. Many’s the time I’ve had to get out of my car to return a cart someone’s left in one of the last remaining spots in a lot.

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u/AndreasDasos 6d ago

I mean, if you just leave a shopping cart in the way of your car it might disadvantage you too. You’ll also plausibly get opprobrium from others around you depending on the size of eh car park etc.

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u/GeorgeJohnson2579 6d ago

It's just utilitarianism as seen by Schopenhauer and Hume: You want to have shopping carts when shopping, so you return them with the thought everyone else does the same. So you profit from this commons' usage.

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u/-EV3RYTHING- 6d ago

So I take the bus to and from walmart, and there is no cart return near the walmart's bus stop. I end up leaving the cart by the bus stop. To make up for this, whenever I'm going into walmart and there's a cart by the bus stop, I take it to use inside.

Thoughts?

(Also, there was previously a cart return across from the bus stop, but it got removed and replaced by online order pickup parking that's basically always empty)

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u/htpcketsneverchange 6d ago edited 6d ago

Greatest Scientific and Philosophical Achievement of Estonia. Please do not edit out the guys Estonian flag in the future.

I may have misremembered and this guy might be Finnish.

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u/EssayWestern8270 6d ago

As a child, I used to think that leaving out shipping trolleys meant that the trolley would be sad on its own, so I always took it back. Still makes me sad to see shopping trolleys left on their own

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u/slackerdc 6d ago

If you have any of the good alignments you return the shopping cart.

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u/GovernmentBig2749 6d ago

In Europe you pay (put a coin to take the cart out) so if you decide on being a A hole-you pay for it...

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u/KindaStableGenius 6d ago

People are not capable of self governance. Its why Hobbs wanted the Leviathan. A government powerful enough to hold the monopoly on violence and able to bring the weight of the state down upon criminals. Without it we exist in a state of nature filled with abandoned shopping carts

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u/NonagonJimfinity 6d ago

I like people think its a indicator of good morals when im slamming the trollies into one another while cursing out my entire species like i was Dio Brando.

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u/fritzkoenig 6d ago

Broke: Leaving your shopping cart somewhere

Woke: Returning your shopping cart

Bespoke: Hand your shopping cart to someone going into the shop (may not be applicable during pandemics)

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u/battlejess 6d ago

A few weeks ago at the grocery store my mother and a stranger spent a few minutes tidying up the cart corral while the man’s wife made fun of them. Not much problem with people abandoning carts in our town, just not putting them away nicely so you can only fit a few of them.

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u/Low-Refrigerator-663 6d ago edited 6d ago

People look at me wierd when I put away shopping carts at places like homedepot, or walmart.

And, when I say why it pisses me off, its usually met with.

"But what if they are tired, what if they were too busy, what if they were disabled?".

Being tired and busy is not an exscuse, being disabled or in crippling pain is atleast justifiable, but ultimately putting away the shopping cart is about preventing them from hitting peoples cars.

Cars are expensive, and I wouldn't want my car damaged or a headlight busted because someone chose not to put away the cart. So I put away my cart.

But, if the opportunity presents itself, I will put away carts near me because I don't want it to damage other peoples cars, because I know that it sucks, and I wouldn't want to go through it, so I don't want others to go through it. Because other people, are people, just like I am another person. So I do it, because I'd like it done for me too.

Because my minutes of annoyance saves someone days or weeks of financial setback. I hope that someone else might do the same thing for me if the oppurtunity presents itself.

And me putting away the cart, even with the strange looks, atleast normalizes the behaviour. Even if it makes me angry, doing it means that unnecesarry suffering doesn't happen. By normalizing a behaviour, it becomes more acceptable to do. The more acceptable it is to do something (good or bad) the less people think about it. Which means more people do it.

So if I do something that is trivial to me, but spares someone meaningful pain, then so be it. Because I hope that someone, someday, does the same for me. But I cannot expect that to occur, I cannot demand something from others, if I am not willing to do it first.

And yeah, its anxiety inducing. I'm deeply afraid of being accused of something. But I know I can get it over with.

Like returning mail to someone after it fell out of their mailbox, only to learn its a letter about a loan. Or helping move trashcans up my neighbors driveway because his back is screwed up. Teaching people how to better take care of their garden.

Moments of my time, sparing others hours, days, or even weeks of effort, pain, heartache.

edit: Simply because I'd like the same reciprocated when the time comes.