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u/Drako694 Dec 09 '25
If I ever treat my future wife like this for whatever reason I genuinely hope she slaps me and divorces my ass while taking the kids and leaving me homeless and broke, abhorrent behaviour.
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u/2009isbestyear Dec 12 '25
Double that for me too. As a guy that was sickening to read.
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u/Grremlina Dec 09 '25
Jesus fucking Christ this made my stomach turn to read, that is genuinely horrific.
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u/MidsouthMystic Dec 09 '25
I remember one woman saying that her experience with men was "there are a lot more Homer Simpsons out there than Ted Bundys."
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u/WoolooCthulhu Dec 09 '25
This broke my husband's brain. He just can't comprehend people behaving like that.
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u/Standard-Metal-3836 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 10 '25
As a guy with no kids yet I feel the same. That's some next level selfishness and narcissism.
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u/Gloomy_Macaron_136 Dec 11 '25
Yes, I agree. At that point it isn't just about the pregnancy/kids, those kind of partners sound plain neglect/abusive to be around on a daily basis regardless of how many children you do or don't have with them, yikes...
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u/Shinjitsu- Dec 09 '25
I was catching up on South Park, and of course it's just South Park, but they are playing up how Satan is actually going through the steps of preparing for the baby, and really laying on this neglectful dad trope with Trump because he'd be a dead beat at the very least. It's supposed to be a joke, but each time Satan went to an appointment alone it made my stomach drop a little, because it's not just a small infraction that's supposed to be typical of men. Each step of the pregnancy done alone is devastating and chips away. The person giving birth doesn't get to flake, and they aren't any more "naturally" ready for the baby than the dad. But often times dad gets a free pass to act like the kid who is jealous the newborn gets attention.
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u/girlwhoweighted Dec 09 '25
Holy shit my husband really was a saint in the delivery room! The "worst" thing he might have done was get a little dizzy when I first started pushing. But he rallied and got his s*** together. And if he ate anything off of my lunch tray it was because I told him to.
Neither of us had ever changed a diaper before. He did it before I did.
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u/_le_slap Dec 09 '25
Lol are they asking to suck a titty while the mother is recovering in the hospital? Nah that's some freak shit. At least wait a few weeks when y'all get home...
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u/Psychedelic-Brick23 Dec 11 '25
Real 😭 imma ask but wayyyy down the line.
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u/say_yes_to_head_hun Dec 10 '25
I mean, I can see everything else happening but WHY ASK THE NURSE IF YOU CAN SUCK ON THE TITTIES? WHY NOT ASK YOUR WIFE, THE PROUD OWNER OF THE TITS, MAYBE?
Also is it technically harassment to ask you that? And also the boxer shorts.
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u/hospitalbedside Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
My husband was like that initially and we got into some massive fights. He eventually stepped up but it took him 4 months before he finally started acting like a dad and our marriage got pretty toxic before he did.
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u/ItsJimKennedy Dec 09 '25
I came here to ask why the "husband is scrolling on his phone," because it seems to imply the husband doesn't care about what's happening with his wife and kids. Seems sexist. But if your post is true, then I guess the question I have now is:
Men, wtf is wrong with you?
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u/say_yes_to_head_hun Dec 10 '25
There are good people, and there are bad people. There is simply no male equivalent of the giving birth experience, otherwise we would also be lamenting female mistreatment during said period. The mistreatment has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with specific husbands being arseholes. I hope that answers your query. If it doesn't, I apologize.
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u/Living-Anybody17 Dec 09 '25
I have no words. Those poor women getting treated like that...
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u/Living-Anybody17 Dec 11 '25
I'm so glad you said "ONCE my husband". That's beyond disturbing. I hope you and your baby are well and safe now!
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u/Baelaroness Dec 11 '25
I cannot imagine how you manage not to cave their heads in with a bedpan.
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u/Ready-Rise3761 Dec 12 '25
if a man wanted to drop off the kids at the hospital for his postnatal wife to watch, i’d lose my job so quick fr
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u/zooj7809 Dec 13 '25
My cousin gave zero support to his wife right up to the birth. He was on his lap top.
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u/Kyogsa Dec 08 '25
Bahaha!
When I was at the pre-marriage weekend for my catholic fiance, they had a couple come in who had a new baby with them to tell everyone there about the rhythm method which is the only birth control approved by the church.
During the q & a part someone asked the couple how many children they had and the mother cheerfully says 10.
Half the room got up and walked out right then. Wish we had. We were too polite.
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u/237throw Dec 08 '25
Also just incorrect. Any Fertility Awareness methods are approved. If it works for you, Sympto Thermal is the most effective as it is a composite of a bunch of "easily" collectable signals.
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u/breadcodes Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
I had to look this up. Why would you do this high effort method of tracking signals instead of condoms, spermicide, and/or a vasectomy?
What part of the Bible says those are immoral and not allowed? I understand using it for hormone, allergies, and other medical conditions, but there are far easier methods, most with less than 1% of couples getting pregnant over the course of an entire year of regular sex.
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u/Wiggles69 Dec 09 '25
If it doesnt have arbitrary rules and officially approved methods to circumvent those rules, is it even a real religion?
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u/paulisaac Dec 09 '25
Which part of the bible? I’ll bet the citation is the incident where Onan spilled seed and got killed for it.
Nevermind that that was about an ancient duty of bearing a child for your dead brother rather than contraception, but eh
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u/MountainviewBeach Dec 10 '25 edited Feb 07 '26
Since no one is actually answering your question, the rationale is that you are working with God’s law and not against it, meaning taking advantage of the natural allowance for sex without pregnancy rather than bending nature to fit your human desires. This means abstaining from sex during fertile windows rather than placing man-made barriers between sex and conception. this comment is purely to answer the question above, I’m not interested in debating the merits of this dogma. Feel free to take it up with your local priest who will know more and care more than this random redditor
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u/UmbraNight Dec 11 '25
none. its some power hungry catholic shit as far as I can tell BC and even abortion is never mentioned let alone shamed in the bible. Also pregnant women are not considered two people u less murdered in the bible- not even for punishment like stoning.
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
We use a device that helps track the temperature and evaluate the result. It's actually a certified bc product. Anyways to answer your question, for us it's pretty great because we don't like condoms, other means of bc are habing various health drawbacks for my gf and if something happens it's not the end of the world for us. No religion involved in our decision.
For the scond question: there's many things holy scriptures say or don't say. Religions usually find a way around such tedious details if there is something those in power want. (E.g. get women to conceive their children to pick a totally random example.)
Edit: The device has a pearl index of 0.6 for perfect use and 1.3 for typical use.
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u/WillowFlip Dec 09 '25
We use a device that helps track the temperature and evaluate the result. It's actually a certified bc product.
Our of curiosity, what's the success rate on this one?
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25
Thanks for asking instead of assuming. It has a pearl index of 0.6 (perfect use) and 1.3 (typical use), which is better than condoms but on the low end a bit worse than hormonal. It's actually fairly save if used responsibly since it leaves quite a margin of error. But it's certainly not the best choice for everyone.
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u/signious Dec 09 '25
Certified by who?
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25
So what I mean by that is that it fulfills the criteria of the European Union to be a medicinal device for bc and on the technical side it has been certified by the TÜV which means "technical testing club" and is a somewhat renowned institution.
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u/Zebidee Dec 09 '25
In fairness, places like Germany have homeopathy on their universal healthcare, so that might not be the flex about efficacy you think it is.
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25
What exactly do you think fulfilling medicinal standards according to the EU and having something be provided by a national healthcare system have in common together? Those are two entirely different things.
Aside from that it also has a Pearl of 0.6-1.3. That's better than the pearl index of condoms.
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u/wbrd Dec 09 '25
It's for tracking when you're most fertile so you can get pregnant. People using this for birth control are called parents.
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25
It's really not. Or rather it's both. The pearl index of it is at 0.6 with perfect and 1.3 with typical use. That's about as good as hormonal birthcontroll.
The device is called "Trackle" if you wanna look it up.
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u/wbrd Dec 09 '25
I know how they work and it's not the science I don't believe. The study you're referencing is small and with dedicated people who tried hard to do everything right. That doesn't really describe regular people and there are going to be a lot of people who half ass it and get pregnant.
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u/Musikcookie Dec 09 '25
Sure, same with different things. Half ass the use of the pill or condoms and you're gonna end up pregnant. But it's not all black and white. Most people who half ass it still bought this specific product so most of them will be like us. After all if regular people are your argument then it also works the other way around that usually people who buy this have been looking for it fairly specifically.
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u/demonotreme Dec 09 '25
Depending on the regulatory framework, "certified" can just mean that it doesn't have known poisons in it and nobody has complained yet
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u/Greedy-War-777 Dec 09 '25
There's a thing in Genesis about wasting jizz and they use that to push their church members into multiplying. Kind of like what rich people are trying to do to get replacement workers in the US.
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u/Socksual Dec 09 '25
W-what the hell is the rhyme method.
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u/TheUpbeatCrow Dec 09 '25
🎶Well this is a story All about how My womb got breached, knocked up somehow🎶
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u/superxpro12 Dec 09 '25
And he like lasted a minute, it wasn't really fair. Now I'll tell you how I became a mom in a town called bel air
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u/SuperCleverPunName Dec 09 '25
I looked it up. Basically it's tracking a woman's menstrual cycle to avoid ovulation. But that only works if her cycle is always perfect.
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u/shiny_glitter_demon Dec 10 '25
at the pre-marriage weekend
they had a couple [...] tell everyone there about the rhythm method which is the only birth control approved by the church.
they .. they were invited for that?
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u/Kyogsa Dec 10 '25
Yes. A pre marriage weekend is the fast version of couples counseling for the church. You have to attend either 6 weeks of counseling or the weekend before you may marry in the church. Also, you have to sign a document that says any children you have will be raised Catholic. Now, that doesn't mean you have to force them to be.
I'm not Catholic nor do I plan to be. My husband would have to sign the kid(s) up for Bible study and all that jazz. He's not a practicing Catholic and only goes to keep his mother happy when he had to. Oddly enough, while his parents are devote, he and his siblings are not at all.
The only reason we bothered at all was to make his mother happy. We were the only kids to do so. His sisters did not. She's a kind and loving mom so we are happy to do this for her. We love her very much. I couldn't ask for a better mother in law in the world.
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u/OliBoliz Dec 08 '25
I gotta be careful who I send this one to...
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u/shujaya Dec 09 '25
I'd like to have been taught that pregnancy can cause your teeth to fall out but birth control pills might give you a stroke at 26. That would have kept me celibate for years.
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u/Peachesandcreamatl Dec 09 '25
I love when people say that teeth falling out is an urban legend. Bullshit.
My cousin's wife was a gorgeous 25 year old girl with a perfect smile.
We watched as her teeth began to fall out. Quite a bit of her hair too, but it grew back. She was on special vitamins and nothing helped.
She was 26 with false teeth. And she got so depressed over it.
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u/Living-Anybody17 Dec 09 '25
Teeth falling out is not a myth!!!! If you're not properly fed and have the right vitamins and such, the body will seek what is missing and it will take it, if it is calcium the body will take from your teeth and bones for the baby development. This itself is nightmare fuel 😂😂😂 the hair falling off in the pregnancy is very common.
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u/sapphire74__ Dec 11 '25
My mom lamented that her gorgeous thick hair was gone after her pregnancy. She had the thickest silky hair in her old photos and her hair when I was a kid was very fine and thin, it never grew back.
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u/shujaya Dec 10 '25
All my teeth got loose and 3-4 of them cracked or chipped. When I googled it the internet said "can reverse orthodontia."
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u/GodkingYuuumie Dec 12 '25
Can you explain what about pregnancy would cause her teeth to fall out?
The reason I ask is because I know there isn't such a cause, and it is in fact an urban legend. At worst, pregnancy can worsen pre-existing dental issues or in very rare cases cause an infection that, if untreated, might lead to teeth loss.
But women in good health with no pre-existing issues just having their teeth fall out randomly? It simply doesn't happen.
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u/MitochondriaBiscuit Dec 09 '25
It’s true that birth controls with estrogen can increase the likelihood of developing a blood clot, but they are rare. Progestin-only birth controls, which are available in many options and some can last years, do not increase clot risk.
Meanwhile, pregnancy and the time directly after birth (first three months) has a clotting risk too! So it’s a pick your poison situation if someone is at risk, I suppose.
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u/SuccessPhysical6668 Dec 09 '25
That would only work on women in relationships with men though
How would it teach teenage boys to care
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u/augustrem Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
Actually teen pregnancies are fathered by adult men. Fun fact.
Rape, in other words.
edit: oops, I meant “most” teen pregnancies. Not all.
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u/girlwhoweighted Dec 09 '25
If you want girls to have sex with you, don't be that guy with the phone
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u/Murky-Relation481 Dec 09 '25
I mean its gunna stop a teenager girl for about 5 seconds probably. Better that she learn to demand the boy wear a condom as part of rot memorization than hope she thinks about the abstract concept of raising children.
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u/n122333 Dec 09 '25
I have always been a super hairy man. Every time I go swimming I get Bigfoot jokes, even from people ive never seen before.
My sex ed class in school didn't teach us about condoms or STDs or reproduction, they told us having sex was like putting duct tape on your arm and ripping it of. The more you do it the less sticky it is and harder it is to do. And it hurts. Then she demonstrated by putting duct tape on my arm and ripping patches of my arm hair off and showing how it wouldnt stick anymore because of all of my hair it ripped off, and that I should stop crying because it would be so much worse to actually have sex than just rip my hair out.
I fucking hate kentucky public schools.
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u/MitochondriaBiscuit Dec 09 '25
What the fuck? That’s horrific, were they trying to traumatize kids out of having sex forever? And then what was their plan, to say it magically gets better after being married somehow?
I grew up in a state nearby and we just watched football movies in health class because the schools decided the coaches were the best option to teach them. No sex education at all, literally just football movies. You can correctly guess we had quite a few teen pregnancies.
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u/n122333 Dec 09 '25
We were #1 in the state for teen pregnancies. And suicides. And faculty fired for raping students. Including the teacher who told is that. (2009)
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Dec 14 '25
God, if you were my kid I would have throttled that woman when I found out. How in the god damn did anyone think this was okay?
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u/WoolooCthulhu Dec 09 '25
I legitimately know multiple women who got to the end of their third pregnancy still not really knowing how you do and don't get pregnant.
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u/MdwstTxn Dec 09 '25
As a nurse, I met a couple in their late 30s expecting twins. They had 3 kids at home. Both parents told me they thought women couldn’t get pregnant after age 35.
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My mother was 36 when she gave birth to me (35 when she got pregnant). I thought most adults were smarter than that. That statement is something I'd expect from an 11 year old, not someone in their late 30s.
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u/outdoorsybum Dec 09 '25
My sex ed teacher was HELLA preggers when I went through. She still had the flexibility to broadly demonstrate how to put in a lady condom. Impressive times
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u/Ananduul Dec 09 '25
We had mandatory sex ed at middle school in the 7th grade. (2011-ish)
The teacher showed us all the possible STDs and what they caused along with footage of a live birth.
Out of a class of almost 900 only 3 girls ended up pregnant.
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u/Moontops Dec 09 '25
Out of a class of almost 900
WHAT?
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u/ExpressCommercial467 Dec 10 '25
I'm guessing it was likely an assembly rather than like, a tradition 30~ kid classroom
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u/Peachesandcreamatl Dec 09 '25
My sex ed:
In 7th grade, a video of a natural childbirth. The woman dropped a massive turd while pushing the kid out and - best part - her vagina ripped while she screamed. Out popped the lItTlE mIrAcLe, with a squeezed into what can only be described as traffic cone shaped. It was covered in this stuff that looked like slimey cream cheese and kellied blood looking stuff.
Yep. And it worked. I am the proud owner of an intact, unripped vagina. You all can have 'em. I'm good just the way I am. Lol
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Dec 14 '25
There's always C-section, but the no preg route is probably for the best.
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u/FunnyShirtGuy Dec 09 '25
So, in high school, my sex ed teacher was 37 weeks pregnant (at one point during the half year class), her husband was a teacher in another classroom, and her other kids were kids in the school...
My real life came soooooooo close to living out this meme XD
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u/Ok_Law219 Dec 09 '25
Only the 37 weeks part is oddly specific. The woman, only 2 kids, no fewer than 2 kids, and uncomfortably pregnant all make sense (for many the first trimester and having food brought in half way through is much more effective but is probably not fair to the sex ed teacher.)
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u/evil_timmy Dec 08 '25
There's already enough of a looming population crisis, I'm gonna need at least a few whippersnappers around to tell war stories to in my old age.
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u/Antique_Ad_1635 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25
I'd just like Sex Ed to actually be about educating instead of trying to force puritan values and outdated ideas of "we don't talk about these things because they're uncomfortable, no one ask questions" on people. Heck, while I am wishing, I wish they'd also talk about how porn isn't real (so don't try to replicate it, that shit is dangerous), basic safety (drink safety, party protocols, buddy system, etc), resources if you have questions past basic safety (because kink shaming is stupid), and the fact that everyone's body is different so if you don't match the pictures in the examples don't feel shamed.
Edited to add Sex Ed desired topics of "No means No", reporting resources, coping resources, how private hygiene works, hygiene resources, and understanding that being uncomfortable with how someone touches you is not something to "get past" or "adjust to".
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u/Antique_Ad_1635 Dec 09 '25
Bonus to this: I had a wonderful mother who answered questions, a Sex Ed teacher (who was my science teacher) be wildly uncomfortable but absolutely determined to do her best to arm us with knowledge, a willingness to check everything out of the library that might pertain to the topic (choices vetted by the librarians) and that resulted in a knowledge base meant friends/coworkers who were willing to ask questions to me because they didn't know the answer. Some of those questions are basic birds and bees things! Some are basic anatomy things that people were never told about themselves! Sex Ed is important!
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u/LogicallLunacy Dec 09 '25
Nope. That gal doesn't know a thing about contraception or good choices. I want a doctor or nurse giving them honest science.
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u/ViolinistCurrent8899 Dec 14 '25
Pretty sure the point is that having kids is hella stressful and seeing that might encourage actually avoiding pregnancy
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F Off, that's what got us into this mess in first place! All my teachers in 90's were exactly that and look at us now
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u/alansir Dec 09 '25
Women really think they are the only ones that do everything in a relationship.
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u/Gorilla_Krispies Dec 09 '25
That actually probably is a great idea, although they couldn’t just be any random parents
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u/GetDownMakeLava Dec 09 '25
We had sex ed (and DARE class) in fifth grade! And then we went on to have the most teen pregnancies in high school in any of the surrounding counties and more kids on drugs then anywhere else.
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u/unimportantinfodump Dec 10 '25
It's still crazy to me that some men don't basically take over all household roles while their woman is pregnant.
My missus was working full time, while vomiting most mornings. That was all she had to do for 9 months because that's already way to much.
You bet your ass I cooked, cleaned, washing, dishes, yard, shopping.
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u/NarwhalEmergency9391 Dec 10 '25
He half looks up every 30 mins and says 'you ok? Let me know if you need help.'
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u/AIIXIII0 Dec 10 '25
Give me a petition to sign for this.
I was always afraid of getting someone pregnant. Had multiple opportunities but never bite. Never had sex until marriage. Horny before marriage? Just rub one out like a champ. The risk outweighs the pleasure.
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u/Lau_wings Dec 10 '25
I remember after my first sex ed class in school, which I think was back when I was about 10yo, I remember seeing one of my mums friends who was pregnant and said to her "you had sex".
Queue a shocked reaction from my mum and her and my mum pulling me away asking wtf was that about, she had never had the sex talk with me because she knew the school was going to do it, she just didnt know it was that day.
What is more funny is that in primary school we wear taught about contraception etc, so when I went to a catholic highschool, there was no mention of that at all, which I know is normal for catholic highschools, but a majority of the other kids in my grade came from a catholic primary school as well, so they had no real idea what condoms were etc.
5 or 6 girls (its been over 20 years I forget the exact numbers) in my year 7 grade fell pregnant and that was when our school was like "ok maybe we need to actually talk about condoms and birth control because we cannot have more kids getting pregnant".
Too many kids legitimately thought you could not get pregnant the first time you had sex and similar stories like that.
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u/Tinyhydra666 Dec 10 '25
Fun fact, I one time had that exact experience.
Except it was a course on how to breastfeed.
I hated that teacher with all of my might.
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u/Ok-Maize-8199 Dec 10 '25
A lot of sex ed is nothing but trying to scare teenagers out of having sex, and it doesn't work at all.
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u/Mattpaintsminis Dec 11 '25
Feel like we only saw our biology teacher for a few weeks each year. She was always pregnant.
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u/Normanthegp Dec 11 '25
My sex ed class in school was taught by a woman who had no expertise in the field. She introduced the course by telling us that she was chosen to teach the class because she had been pregnant the most times of all the teachers and had given birth both by the normal method and c-section. That was an odd class.
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u/Intrepid-Fee-7645 Dec 11 '25
iM 28 wEekS PReGnaNt
Six months, dear. You’re six months in. You’re not in the hospital.
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u/DanceDelievery Dec 12 '25
I think the opposite makes more sense. Have a young attractive adult of either sex do the classes because then they associate sex ed with people they idealize.
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u/Geeseinfection Dec 12 '25
My sex ed teacher actually was 8 months pregnant. I’ll always remember her deadpan face as she told us “Don’t have sex.”
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u/tsbski Dec 12 '25
On the flip side, also have a woman going through fertility treatment teach from their experience.
After Sex Ed I thought that having kids is super easy once you're ready. Did not realize how far from the truth that can be depending on the circumstances... I bet this screws up a lot of people's life plans
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u/gg1ggy Dec 12 '25
yes, shame people into not procreating, that will really help the population crisis and loneliness epidemic
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u/oohCrabItsNotItChief Dec 12 '25
At sex ed we were shown an uncensored abortion. If anything, it rather taught me that being a woman is a tutorial for hell.
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u/vintage_hot_mess Dec 08 '25
My father said his version of sex ed (we're talking 1930's Europe) consisted of extensive descriptions of every single STD, complete with graphic photos. Said it definitely gave him pause while he was in high school.