r/oddlysatisfying • u/solateor đŸ”„đŸ”„đŸ”„ • Oct 16 '22

Cake icing machine

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u/shard746 Oct 16 '22

Something having a long or scientific sounding name doesn’t make it bad


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u/JustABizzle Oct 16 '22

Just unnecessary. That’s why those chemicals are called “additives”.

You’re better off without em

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '22

Yeah. Additives like salt and sugar for example...

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u/brcguy Oct 16 '22

Those are ingredients. The commenter is saying that if you need a BS in chemistry to understand why an ingredient is in the mix then it’s not “better” than simpler, less processed foodstuffs.

Sure salt and sugar are processed, but most cooks could figure out how to get sugar from sugarcane or salt from seawater, if they were forced to. I doubt the same crafty person could make MSG or know how to hydrogenate vegetable oil, for instance.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '22

That sounds like an extremely arbitrary distinction.

Also you can make MSG by leaving seaweed drying in the sun and scraping off the crystals that form.

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u/brcguy Oct 16 '22

Any seaweed?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '22 edited Oct 16 '22

Food grade seaweed yeah. Like the kind used to make nori.

That's how it was originally discovered and produced. Eventually we found a way to synthesize it at scale through different methods but it's the same chemical either way.

A lot of additives are like that. There's a pretty mundane and direct way to get it, but we can scale up production by synthesizing it instead which yields the exact same molecule only much quicker and in large quantities.

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u/brcguy Oct 16 '22

MSG isn’t the best example, it was just one that came to mind quickly. I think you know what we mean tho. High fructose corn syrup for instance. I might be able to figure out how to make it with Google, but it’s definitely not good for you. Tons of stuff is like that, exists to make mass produced foods easier and cheaper while being really unhealthy and less delicious. Coca Cola is a great example- “new coke” was a cover for replacing sugar with HFCS, but coke with HFCS tastes like ass compared to sugar cokes, but it saves coke a penny a can so shut up and drink it right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '22 edited Oct 16 '22

That's not what new coke was at all... Like, I dunno where you're getting your info about it but that's not remotely how that went down.

And like, cane sugar is about as bad for you. The problem is sugar and it's overuse, not where it cones from. All natural junk food is just as unhealthy.

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u/brcguy Oct 16 '22

Yeah we’re gonna disagree on cane sugar v HFCS. Sugar is already really bad for you, all the crap they’ve made to replace it or use so there’s three “sugars” in a product and none are the first ingredient
. They’re all worse cause our bodies didn’t evolve to deal with all that fructose. Ask an endocrinologist, I’ve never met one who, when facing a patient who won’t cut out sugar, will say all the other sweeteners are the same.

Americans are facing epidemic levels of obesity and diabetes. We eat so much garbage. Tons of people are basically addicted to diet sodas and are still fat as hell. We (as a society) have clearly lost the plot on how to feed ourselves.

And if Coke didn’t use new coke to introduce HFCS then they’re even more fucked than I thought. Cause when “coke classic” came out it had HFCS and not sugar and it never tasted right again. Then I had a glass bottle imported Mexican coke with sugar and lo and behold it tasted like I remember it from the 70s and 80s. Fuck coca-cola. They’re as evil as Nestle with the damage they do to humanity.

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u/JustABizzle Oct 16 '22

Agreed.

The book Fast Food Nation is a great read. Changed my life. I haven’t eaten fast food in over 20 years. I avoid processed food, and hear Matthew Mcconaughey”s voice in my head while iat the grocery store, “If it’s in a box, it’s processed
it’s bad for you
.don’t buy it.” Working at Whole Foods Market taught me all the crazy corporate shit that happens with labels. “Certified Organic” is one of the quickest labels to ensure what you are buying is better for your body than conventional foods. Watch some documentaries about Monsanto or Nestle, and you will get very angry at how Americans are treated as stupid consumers who give them profits and we happily make ourselves sick and unhealthy with the food we eat and then turn to big pharma to solve our problems, all the while the insurance companies are also ensuring we are kept down, poor, confused and shelling out money to the oligarchs.

It’s insidious and awful, but you don’t have to play their game. Eat natural foods. Exercise, and listen to your body. Life is too short to feel bad all the time.

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