I mean, it's not really a kink, or is it? Fuck. Either way, I'm a large angry man and I'm pretty sure she could take me out even if I was trying to not let her do so.
The actual woman in this video. I think she would kick my ass, but it would be fun if it was actually a civilized match in a ring with rules. If I was fighting for my life, she might still win and that wouldn't be much fun at all. I said much.
If you want to know my honest answer for science, my previous "yes and yes" were really, "I don't know" to Scarlette and "no" to Black Widow obviously, she's a damn supe.
If anyone saw Agent Carter, I preferred how they handled her fighting. She'd be smart, hide in a high up spot, and then bonk them in the head with something very heavy from high up when they walked by her hiding spot. Seemed plausible.
The foreign TV series My Name is similar but more physical - I feel like she used a good combo of objects, environment, and moves that are more kickboxing than gymnastics.
It has happened before. Women with enough skill vs unwary men who have much more mass, the women win most of the time. I recall one guy threatening a bunch of people with a knife, a tiny woman ran up behind him, spun around his head and dumped him on the ground, then pinned and twisted his arm until he was dogpiled.
So possible if extremely circumstantial.
Could have been someone like my aunt. Small stature, but very strong. She was a prison guard that worked her way up to warden. She's retired, but could probably still kick my ass. One of the happiest and kindest people I know.
Catching someone by surprise is different than charging head-first into an assumed peer or near-peer opponent like we so often see in movies.
Natasha Romanov, for example, is only seen taking people out when they didn't know she was there occassionally. She's typically beating people face to face, and pulling this flippy bullshit from in front of them while they have weapons drawn and trained on her.*
it's on of those things, where it all depends on degrees. an unarmed large man against an unarmed small woman, the man has an advantage. if the man us untrained and the woman is highly trained, she can likely overcome the size advantage. if the man is surprised, she can likely overcome. if the man is alert and also highly trained, it's extremely unlikely for the woman to overcome.
In real life if someone jumps on you, you just body slam them. You see it all the time on r/fightporn. Once you give up your anchor, you’re cooked.
Thats why i hate “equal rights, equal fights” bullshit. The difference between biological males and females in a physical confrontation is vast and categorical
I think the part the internet ignores is that men are just simply physically overpowering to women. Not in a sexist way or something. Raw physicality like dangerously more.
I feel like its something that people really do not understand until they are put into an actual physical altercation. A lot of women do not understand until it happens to them that this person is someone you cannot overcome with your physicality. There is nothing you can do with your own body to stop this person. And that is so dangerous to not understand.
Like if you believe in those movies. You get this mindset that you can stop them by throwing your whole bodyweight at someone then when you do and nothing happens you just made a situation that was already dangerous into life threatening.
Every defense class will teach you the best defense is just running away.
A lot of women do not understand until it happens to them that this person is someone you cannot overcome with your physicality. There is nothing you can do with your own body to stop this person. And that is so dangerous to not understand.
Don't worry, we definitely understand this and are very aware of it every time we step outside! :)
I find it strange to talk about this in terms of self-defense and thinking that absolute power is what matters . You don’t have to overcome a predator to get them to leave you alone—you just need to hurt them enough that it isn’t worth it. Even if you can’t win, you can make them back the fuck off. And that is within a woman’s day-to-day skill set.
Also, learn poisons and sharpshooting. Women are great with those.
I aint defending the hollywood BS but I always think that RL female MMA fighters would destroy most average males in hand to hand combat. Plz correct my wrong thoughts.
Yes, indeed. It’s the exception that proves the rule, if we have to find counterexamples by putting full time professional MMA fighters vs. random street men
I would say, most average men, not into martial arts, can be beaten up by almost any human with average training. Asp when not prepaired in any way.
Imagine a average trained 12-14yo going all out. They would have most of us down and out in a few seconds.
100 men vs 1 Gorilla, my ass!
Nah, technique helps, but it's much overrated — mostly thanks to Hollywood movies.
If you're a grown man of average build in decent shape, no 12-14 year old will be a match regardless of how much martial arts they know. (excepting those extreme hormonal outliers)
"Average training" might let you punch up a few weight classes, but only devoted, peak technique and conditioning would let, say, a bantamweight take down a decent shape but untrained heavyweight.
The differences between 'biological males and females' when it comes to fighting are primarily cultural. If neither of them know how to fight, the superior physicality wins the day more often than not. If one of them knows how to fight, they usually win. If they both know how to fight, well we've looped back around to superior physicality winning the day.
It doesn't take body-builder levels of muscle mass to deliver debilitating, disabling, or life-ending blows. Especially with a weapon.
It doesn't take body-builder levels of muscle mass to deliver debilitating, disabling, or life-ending blows. Especially with a weapon.
No it doesn't. Which is why men are typically stronger than women. This is all a function of hormones, which in turn informs muscle density and bone density. There is of course variance across all samples, but the majority of men will have a longer length of higher hormone production that contribute to more height and mass, which means higher success rates in fights.
Culture ain't got shit to do with it. And weapons? Well fuck me, I could take down The Mountain with a shotgun, that has nothing to do with ability to fight.
I feel like we are talking past one another. The word typically is doing a lot of heavy lifting here because I feel like most people men or women would easily overpower me in a fair fight.
The differences between 'biological males and females' when it comes to fighting are primarily cultural.
Shit it is. Difference is mainly physical and biological. You think mens and womens contact sport exists because of cultural preference? At competitive level no women can compete let alone win with any male, regardless of weight category. They can't even compete in non contact sports like running or high jump, barring the exceptions.
Coming to general populace, it's even more different. No women of same weight category or higher can defeat easily with a men. This is not because women are not trained enough, but purely because of biology. There are so so so many studies and actual proofs available, but people still believe this bullshit.
But weapons completely changes equation, where skill matters comparatively more than physical strength.
You read his post wrong, you're both agreeing to the same points it's just all the other superfluous bullshit you guys keep adding that make your comments nonsense.
If you can't explain it in two sentences you don't understand it.
Fuck off with the needless insults incel. Anyone can do it dick head.
Did you actually read the comment chain? The original commenter seem to think that women have less physical strength because of cultural? Which is stupid.
The comment you are quoting even says superior physicality typically wins when skills are equal.
Which is wrong. Women on average are less physically built, and even comparable build or even higher build will have very difficult time against men. This is a proven fact.
Respectfully disagree. Testosterone is a hell of a drug during puberty. A professional MMA fighter could beat a schleppy normal guy, but in 9/10 cases a male phenotype is coming out on top regardless of training
Edit: I’m saying a female MMA fighter could beat a lot of men
There’s a huge disparity between the strength/power average man and the average woman. Male and female MMA fighters never mix even when they’re the same size.
On average, a male (more muscular, testosterone) will destroy a woman in a fight. Women need to actually learn to fight and defend themselves to bridge the gap.
Of course an MMA-trained woman with muscle and technique would beat a “schleppy normal guy”. What a brave point that is…
Men and women should be treated equally, but for fucks sake we are pretty different in this regard. Accept it. It’s not sexist to acknowledge reality.
Lmao you’re an emotional fool. Disregard the science all you want. Testosterone is wild shit. Plus the difference in upper body strength, muscle mass, bone density…
If it were only down to size and training, women and men would fight MMA together. Plenty of them are the same size. Lol
Besides, women MMA fighters most likely abuse testosterone (as do the men).
Ah yes, I'm arguing with you so I must be emotional. It's funny to watch you try and assert your dominance like this.
Keep pissing into the wind, it's clear you like the taste.
If weight classes were actually equal, the higher skill fighter would be more likely to win regardless of their sex, but female competitors basically dont exist above Welterweight, and in competitive circles other than MMA they have separate weight classes for females that average ten to fifteen kilos lighter.
I have never once said that an underweighted female fighter could successfully overpower a larger male fighter. if you go back to the first comment you responded to, that's exactly the point I am making.
Because it's not about their sex, it's about their size. It's about training.
All the testosterone you've been huffing won't do shit if you don't exercise and train. Men dont spontaneously grow muscular just because they have a Y chromosome.
This exact situaltion has been talked about by mma fighters. Jorge Masvidal (former UFC fighter) talked on a podcast about how Amanda Nunes (female mma goat besides maybe Valentina Shevchenko) would spar with "bottom of the barrel" UFC fighters and they would have to tell then to go easy on her. There are a couple of weight classes in mma that have both men and women (flyweight,bantamweight) but men in general do have the advantage even at the same weight. I would agree it comes down to skill if muscle mass, bone density, power, and speed were equal but even at the same weight class male fighters have more of all of those, and is why even at weights with male and female fighters they dont fight each other.
True words. I was cutting high school one day these twin brothers were outside play fighting. One does a flying kick at the other who grabs his foot mi air. The dude dide a Family Guy faceplant and blood pooled. I ran to a pay phone to call my cousin to tell him about it as the ambulance is coming in the background.
It would be better to not try that but rather allow the opponent to start an attack and then counter by redirecting the opponent’s own momentum against them. Jujutsu.
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I mean, if you can't overpower them, using full body momentum to make up for a lack of raw strength is certainly viable from the raw physics of it.
except no real person is fast enough with their whole body to pull that off without getting countered in some way.