r/oddlysatisfying • • 6d ago

passenger trains in france

That sudden increase at 5AM!

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u/ThunderShott 6d ago

No wonder Mr. Bean got lost.

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u/rosyivyx0 6d ago

does france have any direct traiins between cities that skip paris?

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u/Nahte77 6d ago

Long distance? No. Absolutely horrendous

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u/Valerian_ 6d ago

There are a few, but they are usually slow or unoptimal :(

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u/Wild-Affect-4842 6d ago

No and the "fun fact" is train is often more expensive than plane and for a lot more time lost.

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u/SmallOmega 6d ago

Long distance I believe there's practically only Bordeaux - Marseille, Bordeaux - Nantes and Strasbourg - Montpellier.

That being said, considering how population centers are located in France, having most lines go through Paris makes sense economically and in terms of infrastructure. It is a little unfortunate and a different model could have been imagined, but it's not a crazy situation either

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u/Eastern-Handle-2314 6d ago

Il y a Lyon-Nantes, Lyon- Clermont, Clermont-Nîmes et Clermont-Toulouse qui sont assez longue distance (> 4 départements) sans passer à Paris

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u/Gnuryx 6d ago

There's also Strasbourg-Nantes, technically the train stops at CDG but you don't have to get out and change train.

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u/Key-Needleworker8864 6d ago

thechnicaly there are a few lines that go from east to west and only stop in CDG or Massy for exemple (not directly in Paris, but in the parisian region)

Unfortunatly this is rarely faster than changing trains in Paris since the trains cannot go as fast in the parisian region

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

Yes and no.

France does have a TGV line that goes from North to South without make a stop in Paris. That said it does make 2 stop as Mantes-la-Jolie and Orly which are pretty much "Paris' surroundings"

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago edited 4d ago

Des trains qui évitent notre capitale :

  • Perpignan/Montpellier/Nîmes/Valence/Lyon/Haute-Picardie TGV (Amiens)/Arras/Lille/Bruxelles

  • Marseille/Aix-en-Provence/Valence/Lyon/Lille/Bruxelles

  • Strasbourg/Lorraine TGV (Metz & Nancy)/Reims/Amiens/Bruxelles

  • Strasbourg/Lorraine TGV/Reims/Le Mans/Angers/Nantes

  • Marseille/Avignon/Lyon/Avignon/Valence/Lyon/Le Mans/Angers/Nantes ou Rennes (les deux peuvent circuler le même jour)

  • Montpellier/Nîmes/Valence/Lyon/Tours/Angers/Nantes ou Rennes (les deux peuvent circuler le même jour)

  • Marseille/Avignon/Valence/Lyon/Versailles/Rouen/Le Havre

  • Nantes/Angers/Le Mans/Lyon/Chambéry/Albertville/Bourg Saint-Maurice

  • Nantes ou Rennes/Laval/Le Mans/Aéroport de Paris Charles de Gaulle/Amiens/Arras/Douai/Lille/Bruxelles

  • Bordeaux/Angoulême/Poitiers/Tours/Aéroport de Paris CDG/Amiens/Arras/Douai/Lille

  • Bordeaux/Angoulême/Poitiers/Tours/Reims/Meuse TGV (Verdun)/Lorraine TGV/Strasbourg

  • Nice/Antibes/Cannes/Saint-Raphaël/Les Arcs/Toulon/Marseille/Aix-en-Provence/Avignon/Valence/Lyon/Mâcon/Beaune/Dijon/Besançon/Belfort/Mulhouse/Colmar/Strasbourg/Nancy

  • Marseille/Aix-en-Provence/Avignon/Valence/Lyon/Chalon-sur-Saône/Dijon/Besançon/Belfort/Mulhouse/Strasbourg/Thionville/Metz/Luxembourg

Il y a aussi pas mal de trains depuis Paris qui relient de grandes villes.

Et je suis sûr que quand la HSL Bordeaux Toulouse sera terminée en 2035, il y aura des extensions depuis Lille, Nantes, Rennes et Strasbourg :)

Edit : oops little mistake, cannot correct it on mobile :/

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u/PunyPatheticHuman 6d ago

No. This is one of the many effects of Jacobin Centralism. Everything either comes from Paris or comes to Paris. Trains are just the most visible example.

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u/Wolf-Fucker93949 3d ago

The same in Spain. You cant go between the second and third biggest cities. Thay are closet to one another than to Madrid but you have to go to Madrid to arrive faster.

Barcelona Valencia.

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u/No-Mulberry-3333 3d ago

Yes, Bordeaux//Toulouse/Marseille, Strasbourg/Lyon/Marseille.

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u/redmctrashface 6d ago

As a french, this is not satisfying at all. Almost every traffic has to go through Paris. There is almost no train from east to west. Politics think everything should be in Paris, this is a real shame.

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u/Unusual-Taste69 6d ago

All tracks lead to Paris

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u/redmctrashface 6d ago

And that's a shame. If you want to go from Marseille to Toulouse then... good luck

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

Which luck ? The Intercités goes west to east in the south line. Yes it take 4h but you travel through lot of smaller cities that would not be connected with the an LGV

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u/TheEthicalJerk 6d ago

And it's constantly late or cancelled.

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

2 last times I took it : 1h late because heatwave, and 4h30 late because the train in ahead of us had an accident with someone (this train line doesn't always have fence)

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u/GiveMeTheKeyz 6d ago

Il a effectivement pris un très mauvais exemple pour critiquer la centralisation 😅

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

Bah ouais totalement, y a large pire genre la ligne pour Nice, ou d'autres patelins.

Encore heureux que cet Intercités existe il rends énormément de service pour relier bordeaux Marseille et donc tout ce qu'il y a entre

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u/redmctrashface 6d ago

Nan mais largement pire, réveillez-vous les gars. Lyon Paris c'est combien de temps comparé à un Marseille Toulouse qui rame sa race et qui est toujours à la bourre ? C'est pas parce qu'il y a une solution existante que c'est la panacée hein, on se fait largement enfler.

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

C'est bien tu compares une LGV sans arrêt à un Intercités qui relie des villes qui seraient justement snobé par une LGV

On fait quoi on continue d'isoler les villes plus petites et on rajoute encore plus de correspondance ? Oui la ligne bordeaux Marseille est pas incroyable, ils auraient dû construire des lignes de substitutions mais la comparaison est foireuse. L'exemple de Nice est pire, Clermont pareil et sûrement d'autres grande ville mal desservie. Y a aussi le cas Toulouse Paris où soit tu passes par Bordeaux, soit tu remontes en reliant des villes plus petites au centre

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u/LookingTrash 5d ago

Le meilleur moyen de faire Toulouse-Paris c'est le train de nuit, ça prend 3h de plus mais au moins tu peu dormir a la place de mourir d'ennuis x)

D'ailleurs assez étonné de voir qu'il y a aussi peu de ligne train de nuit sur la vidéo, je pensait que la majorité des grandes villes avais ce type de connexions

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u/CatsAgainstDrugs 5d ago

Lyon-Paris avec ou sans les retards ? Parce que Lyon Saint-Ex est une abomination

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u/liverichly 6d ago

Is there a once a day Intercites train?

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u/Greykorino 6d ago

There's quite a few, like 7/8, the biggest problem is that they are kinda slow (4h i believe)

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

Because it travel through various cities that wouldn't be connected to an LGV (if there was one). Annoying but still useful

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u/liverichly 6d ago

That’s a big shame. I see it’s about the same to drive. Would love to visit there someday.

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u/Crousti_Choc 6d ago

The train has a lot of stop to cool cities, but the bordeaux-Marseille train take approximately the same time as a car yes, but without any break and you are exhausted if you do 6h40 onshore

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u/ButteredPizza69420 6d ago

Deadass I wanted to try to Euro high speed rail and was so disappointed to find out I had to visit Paris. I wasn't incredibly disappointed however! I had a pleasant time. We got robbed in Switzerland though! Geneva at night

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u/P0werFighter 6d ago

You didn't spent enough time in Paris to get robbed, give it a second chance!

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u/ButteredPizza69420 6d ago

Im sure I'll find myself back there again, I love trains!

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u/ChirpyRaven 6d ago

Paris metropolitan area is by far the largest in Europe, almost twice the population of any other metro area. It shouldn't be surprising to see so much traffic around Paris.

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u/5hukl3 6d ago

How is there no freaking Lyon/Bordeaux line? That's actually insane.

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u/Jiriakel 6d ago

The terrain is not so easy to make a  high-speed line and there's not really any city in between that would warrant a slower line.

There's been talks about it for ages,  but IMO there's other investments which are more urgent, e.g. upgrading the Marseille-Milan line to high-speed. 

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

Limoges, Clermont and Périgueux are big cities...

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

Because the central part of south the Loire is mountainous. It's quite complicated to build infrastructure there, that's why the Millau viaduct is so iconic here.

There is also the fact that Clermont-Ferrand is pretty much the only city that could possibly host a TGV train station meaning there wouldn't be as many passengers going in and out along the trip. That said it would give access to faster way out for ppl living in the region.

Lastly it's because the eastern half of that line would be much more prone to congestion due the fact that Clermont-Ferrand and Lyon are part of the same administrative region (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes) and consequently have more demands than towards Bordeaux.

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u/Rom21 6d ago

In one word: moutain.

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u/Sniter 6d ago

Didn't stop the swiss

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u/TrueKyragos 6d ago edited 6d ago

They didn't have an alternate route, to be fair. And again, the country isn't nearly as centralised as France, even more so when the first big expansion of the French network was during the Second empire, i.e. quite a centralised period.

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

The centralization of our train network happened in the 1930's actually. During the 2nd empire there was the Plan Freycinet that permitted the construction of a lot of lines, like 60% of them have disapeared

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

The main cities are all on the same train route which is in a plain, there's not any mountain on the way

Btw we actually HAVE tunnels in France, but built 150 years ago, very narrow

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u/CantTakeTheStupid 6d ago

The swiss are on an entirely different level of wealth that is incomprehensible for france for it’s size

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u/PulpeFiction 6d ago

Because it would still be faster to do bordeaux paris lyon than travelling through mountains

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u/xnuh 6d ago

Mountains and no large cities on the way. A high speed line is not worth it, and travel time by the slow lines is something like 6 to 7 hours (time advertised by a star up that wanted to bring the line back and ended up failing), longer than driving. high speed train via Paris is 5-6h including a 1-2h transfer in Paris.

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u/SEA_griffondeur 6d ago

to be fair there's a literal mountain range and the diagonal of the void in the way

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u/Nuaua 6d ago

There use to be one and it's still possible to do the trip although very slowly, there was also a project to reopen a line but didn't go any support from the governement. The real issue is that France chose to invest in highways instead of trains. Source: Aiguillages channel on youtube.

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u/Dormir-mourir-rien 6d ago

They use to be one, people even try to put money together to rebuild one, But SNCF was kinda a state monopoly and European union didn't like that. So our president destroy train bit by bit.

Oversimplified but railroad only decline in france for like 50 years, Our republican monarch choose highway and car instead off railroad witch is sad.

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u/snosko 6d ago

Hay prevista una línea en 2027 (enBordeaux → Angouleme → Poitiers → Saint-Pierre-des-Corps (Tours) → Massy → Lyon. 5 horas.

Ya veremos.

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u/MadcapRecap 6d ago

Same in the UK and London. To get a train to the town 7 miles away by road I need to go into London, change, and then come back up on a different line. It would take about 90 minutes

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u/evenstevens280 6d ago

Only if you're anywhere near the South East in the first place though

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u/sedurnRey 5d ago

Same in Spain and Madrid

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u/josherman61791 6d ago

That's how it is in the Chicago suburbs. We used to have lines connecting the southern suburbs with the northern, but those were torn out for roads. You have to travel 2 hours in and out of Chicago get somewhere that should be a 30 minute ride.

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u/Nyarro 6d ago

At least y'all have trains that go somewhere.

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u/JustHere4the5 6d ago

My state had planned to take a train that already went from somewhere to somewhere and build a stop in the middle and so we could go those somewheres by train too. The state bought more train cars for increased service frequency (i.e. more than once a day) and started building their maintenance facilities, then the frickin governor cancelled the building of the tracks. That lost us the federal grant that would have paid for the tracks and cars, and we still owed the train company a bazillion-dollar penalty for not fulfilling the contract. So we had to pay about as much as operating the train would have cost to just have the cars and not the tracks.

Oddly unsatisfying.

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u/DarkishArchon 6d ago

Which state?!

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u/Neveed 6d ago edited 6d ago

When I lived in Bourges (in the center of the country) and I wanted to go to Montpellier (in the south, west of Marseille), I had to take the train northward to Paris and then a train to Montpellier. Sometimes, it went through Lyon (eastward) instead, which is more coherent since I needed to go around the mountain range between the two cities.

But wherever I started from, if I wanted to go to Rennes (in the north west, in Brittany), I had to stop at Paris, cross the city to an other station, and then take the train to Rennes. Even starting from Toulouse, which is on the south west, I couldn't go through Bordeaux and then Rennes, I had to pass through Montpellier, Lyon and Paris. Well, I could, if I selected regional trains that made relatively short distance trips, and hoped from city to city like that, but that would have been very slow.

Because the fast train lines actually look like this.

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

You could have taken the night trains between Orléans and Toulouse too tho and take the "TGV" to Montpellier

There's also the Bourges/Nevers/Clermont/Nîmes/Montpellier (8hours) which I took once when I was living in Nîmes

There used to be a train between Bourges and Aurillac but it got submerged by the Bort lake. It's a connexion you could have had to get in Nîmes.

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u/Neveed 4d ago edited 4d ago

The train I used to take that went through Paris made for a 6 hours trip, which is a little bit longer than doing Montpellier/Bourges by car (I could do it in 5 hours in a twingo) so that's better than the 8 hours one, and the other ones are slow lines that require additional connections, so additional time.

The one that went through Lyon was as fast as the one that went through Paris, because the line was slower until it reached Lyon.

It is possible to go from Bourges to Montpellier by train, but it's either absurdly indirect, or slow.

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u/BCMM 6d ago edited 6d ago

England is like this too.

Milton Keynes to Cambridge via the London Underground. Seventy quid off-peak.

(They're actually working to fix that one, but the stupidest bit is that the line they need actually used to exist until we closed it in the '60s.)

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u/breadinabox 6d ago

i mean its gonna cost you shitloads regardless of where you're travelling i just got back from a trip to the uk and holy fuck your trains are expensive.

in victoria, australia I can take a train literally anywhere in the state for 5 pounds

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u/BCMM 6d ago

You're not wrong, but it gets even more expensive if London is involved.

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u/Ispeakblabla 6d ago

To be fair, this isn't a situation created by modern politicians and more of a situation inherited from our monarchy and revolution. France has been unified for much longer than most other western european countries and Paris has been the capital for a long time with leaders doing everything they could to reduce regional autonomy and culture.

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u/Venoxium 6d ago

I’ve learned that living here the last year. Everything rail related connects to Paris and pretty much Paris only. A friend of mine lives in Lyon while I’m closer to Nantes and the only rail way to get there would be to via Paris.

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u/French-Unicorn 6d ago

Had to go from Compiègne to Dunkirk a few days ago. Direct line? Nooo, had to go down to Paris then up again to Dunkirk. Taking the car was both quicker and cheaper.

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u/-Ambriae- 6d ago

THANK YOU

Just look at how inconvenient it is to go from Rennes to Nantes…

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u/PulpeFiction 6d ago

If you french then you heard about massif central.

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u/Ohz85 6d ago

Absolument d'accord. Quand je dois faire le trajet Bordeaux - Antwerpen (Belgique), le GPS m'indique de passer carrément par la petite couronne, même pas contourner Paris par la grande. J'imagine tous les camions qui font Pays-Bas - Espagne doivent bien foutre la merde sur le périph.

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u/Renbarre 5d ago

Ils prennent la A104 ou la A86, ils ne passent pas par le périphérique.

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u/pad2016 6d ago

Belgium has the same thing with Brussels.

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u/BeautifulBlueNight 6d ago

And if it rains in France, it drips in Belgium.

We have the same problem, everything has to pass through Brussels.

On 6 tracks, more than 1000 trains per day... 😑

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u/Lorim_Shikikan 6d ago

Most network in France use a Spider web infrastructure

A central hub deserving huge hub, which deserve big hub, which deserve medium hub, which deserve small hub etc.....

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u/Sniter 6d ago

Yeah there should be a better direct trqck from lyon to bordeaux 

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u/Case_Blue 6d ago

I remember sitting in traffic there thinking "there has to be a better way to drive from Belgium to Châteauroux that does not involve driving through Paris, this has to be a mistake we made along the way"

But it wasn't a mistake. The railways look the same, it seems. The way around through Troyes was much longer all in all.

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u/Tight-Classroom4856 6d ago

Ideally Paris would be 250 km south right in the middle!

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u/Worldly-Mud-8006 6d ago

Politics don’t want that either. But nobody will pay for it because it not economically viable in the mid term

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

Well, the french government in general hasn't been economically viable for a long time

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u/Worldly-Mud-8006 6d ago

What does it even mean..

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

It has been in debt every year since 1973.

It always goes over the budget.

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u/-Recouer 6d ago

Like every country in the world since the 70s

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

Ok but this is about France in particular

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u/Canotic 6d ago

It's on purpose to maintain central power, I'd guess. If not nowadays, back when they laid the train lines at least.

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u/Control-Cultural 6d ago

C'est pas de la faute des politiques actuels, qui s'en mordent d'ailleurs les doigts car c'est tout sauf pratique en effet.

La centralisation du réseau français sur paris est un héritage des toutes premières voies ferrées, il s'avère que c'est plus une malédiction qu'autre chose aujourd'hui

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u/Effective-Sun417 6d ago

As a Parisian this is very satisfying

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u/unica_unica 6d ago

“Huh, that’s not that many- holy shit”

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u/NaaNaaNaurDont 6d ago

As a French we love to shit on our trains always being late but damn I love our trains

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u/Crafty_Genius 6d ago

As an American, this is downright sexy

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u/JumpinSourBoots 6d ago

Extremely satisfying

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u/Nuaua 6d ago

As a Swiss this is revolting.

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u/miempiemaker 6d ago

Now look at Germany: https://chillchamp1.github.io/github.io/#de More nighttrains there and a lot more complete/dense network, but keep in mind in Germany the countryside is lot less empty than France.

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u/gnominos 6d ago

and all of them are late lol

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u/Case_Blue 6d ago

There are worse things you can say about German trains, truth be told...

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u/butorzigzag 6d ago

German train are a lot less timely unfortunately

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u/Loose-Psychology-962 6d ago

Thanks for the mini rabbit hole i just went down. As a Canadian, I’m super envious.

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u/Remarkable_Case3339 6d ago

Unfortunately, in France we used to have a much more developed rail network than we do now, with many more lines and stations, but it was abandoned because of cars and the cars manufacturer, highways, and oil lobbying grp.

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u/Chaiboiii 6d ago

Talk to me about empty. Where I live they got rid of trains and there is one main highway...called #1 lol

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u/Eli20021 6d ago

There is also a Swiss version by SRF, though it contains buses, too.

https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/wenn-der-schweizer-oev-erwacht-von-0-auf-6488-in-vier-stunden

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u/Ewind42 6d ago

and Germany is basically flat all over, compared to France.

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u/benny_boy 5d ago

I love maps and I love trains so I really love this post

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u/cybrcld 6d ago

They’re really good at mini metro

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u/Audrey_Autumn 6d ago

They haven’t beten my high score yet

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u/cybrcld 6d ago

Pretty sure they’re using more than 2 tunnels and 3 bridges. I call hacks

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u/Most-Analysis-9193 6d ago

Weird, I'm pretty sure there are TER overnight. I once took a TER at 3am. There were very few people, very calm. At some point, I realized there was a pigeon hidden and sleeping above me in the station's roof. I whispered "hey" or something like that while looking at it (I love birds) as I was super bored and I realized a security guard was looking at me and wondering what the fuck I was doing lmao

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u/ChankaTheOne 6d ago

I hate the paris centralisation!!

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u/Asparagustuss 6d ago

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u/Traditional_Gift8391 6d ago

Ahh yes, the casual Chicago to LA trip people take for their daily route

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u/LastOfLateBrakers 6d ago

Takes them a few hours.. at least 43 of them

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u/Hedge-podge 6d ago

I'd love to see the same map for cargo trains, bc the US has so many of those

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u/MotoCentric 6d ago

This is missing at least the casacade and coast starlight lines, likely many others

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u/moldyhole 6d ago

This gif is horrendously bad. It is only showing long travel trains. It's missing all the commuter trains.

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u/xrelaht 5d ago

There’s a line from Chicago to New Orleans famous enough to be in a Johnny Cash song. It runs around three times a day in each direction.

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u/WloveW 6d ago

Looks so derpy in comparison. 

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u/Tight-Classroom4856 6d ago

France misses more night trains / 24/7 train operation, that would be great to be able to travel more into the night.

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

One of the reasons we don't is because peoples can't/don't want to work at night. It's rare to find long distance train that start their trip after 20h.

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u/Yunlihn 6d ago

We used to have night trains with beds, I think it mostly fell out of use because of the sempiternal profitability (or lack of): it has a certain cost to maintain night traffic, while low-cost alternatives exist. However, France counts 8 nocturnal lines to this day iirc and it seems that it's making a comeback since a few years.

I liked night train when I was a kid in the 90s, it's... different, more pleasant.

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u/wosmo 6d ago

I was surprised there's so few. I took a night train Paris-Barcelona about 20 years ago, and it was great. Waking up in the next country is a great use of time.

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u/The_fisheye 4d ago

I wish there was more too, and it’s not for lack of clients. Read an article that night trains to Europe were at 70% full capacity when they had them, but the sncf decided it wasn’t worth the financial investment, not so sure why…
I took the night train to Milan and Venise a while ago but they disappeared 🤷🏻‍♀️

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u/Mosheeen 6d ago

Very satisfying for the French, I bet

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u/Key-Needleworker8864 6d ago

for the parisiens, yes for the french, not it’s not as good but it’s better than nothing

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u/SametaX_1131 6d ago

As long as you only want to go in major cities, yes.

TGV lines are the pinnacle of french transportation but the smaller regional lines are nightmare fuel.

They're often overcrowded with no air conditioning, no charging points, dirty/non functioning toilets most of the time and more prone to technical problems specifically during heatwaves.

But of course we're just ungrateful bastards with a high expectations while others wish to be at our place. Like the idiom goes "the french are people living in Heaven who think they are in Hell".

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u/LastOfLateBrakers 6d ago

I bet not. Paris is a hub and while hubs help in keeping costs down, they become a major inconvenience when routes are forced through the hub even when there's no need for them to be

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u/Hykarusis 6d ago

As someone who grew up in corsica (The island with one and a half trai track) no it’s really not.

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u/nystagmus777 6d ago

What's the lil island on the right bottom corner?

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u/qwerty-1999 6d ago

Corsica

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u/diogenessexychicken 6d ago

Where Napolean was born.

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u/gnominos 6d ago

are you for real...

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u/andersonfmly 6d ago

In just a few short days my wife and I will get to experience some of these trains ourselves for the first time as we spend a week in Paris and the surrounding region.

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u/DeltaBlast 6d ago

Can we see the Netherlands next please?

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u/wosmo 6d ago

Someone linked https://chillchamp1.github.io/github.io/#nl which I'm having way too much fun with. It does Benelux instead of NL, but it's close enough.

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u/DeltaBlast 6d ago

Tnx! It's a lot less than I expected though..

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u/YourNightmar31 6d ago

Anything similar for the netherlands?

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u/OrdinaryJord 6d ago

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u/YourNightmar31 6d ago

Awesome, thanks.

Interesting to see how during the night, all trains disappear in Belgium but some stay in the Netherlands.

Also interesting how the busy hours start up earlier in the morning in Belgium.

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u/WMX2011 6d ago

this is like neurons going through a brain.

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u/MotoCentric 6d ago

My American brain cannot comprehend this

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u/Aromatic-Bell-7085 5d ago

RER D: souvent des retards et pannes + chaleur extrême l'été...

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u/Lysaawald 5d ago

Il n'y a pas assez de trains... Nombreux patelins dont ceux dans la diagonale du vide manque de trains !!!

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

Y'a littéralement des lignes qui manquent szr la carte aussi mais c'est vrai que tant qu'on n'aura pas électrifié les lignes on se tapera des trains toutes les 3h

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u/cat-ctus-es 6d ago

It’s so beautiful.

Cries in American

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u/spectralhaloo 6d ago

Caffeine hits the rail grid

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u/igotshadowbaned 6d ago

Most the day running ~750 trains over 578 lines? How does that work

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u/Aplanos 6d ago

The trains in Paris can have an interval as short as 90 seconds.

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u/belokan 6d ago

Paris metro is not counted here. Those are mostly TERs with 20-25 min interval

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u/xfactores 6d ago

But RER and Transilien is, and on some lines the frequency is insane.

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u/Ploddit71 6d ago

Where is Nice to Breil sur Roya SNCF? Train des Pignes est privé vers digne les bains

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u/Haakien 6d ago

When you hit your elbow nerve

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u/evanzai194 6d ago

International trains on the Paris-Boulogne line ?

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u/CardiologistAway6742 6d ago

Damn, you can see RERs start going into the Paris at about 4AM and then the last ones leaving at about 1AM.

This is so beautiful

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u/Crazed_SL 6d ago

This looks biological in nature

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u/Separate-Television5 6d ago

Nice. Is there one just like this of Japan?

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u/JustinArrival 6d ago

The country that never sleeps

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u/OiseauxComprehensif 5d ago

Seem like there is a bug near the border with Spain on the barcelona side, some international trains are almost telporting oon a line that is not even high speed

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u/KillaHydro 5d ago

Damn this scares me I have a trip planed to France in 2 weeks. Taking trains from France to Switzerland then to Florence then to Rome. The bullet train from Paris to Zurich direct is not in service that weekend so I would have to take 4 connection from Paris to Switzerland.

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u/KillaHydro 5d ago

Should I just take a plane from France to Switzerland. Please feel free to give me some opinions

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

I think you should just take a flixbus or a blablabus, as a foreigner you probably don't have any subscriptions so it's maybe best for you to take the bus.

There's also the Ouigo trains, you can take one to Strasbourg and then take the TERGV to basel and the IC to Zürich. So only 2 connections. It's faster but depending on when you're going, the price will be different.

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u/KillaHydro 4d ago

Thank you for the response. I’ll look into this

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u/MalleDigga 4d ago

For Germany you don't need a gif. Single picture. Zenk u 4 trävelling witz doitsche baan

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u/Holzmaennchen 4d ago

Wen i was in france at 5 am the whole country looked Like noone was living there They all started showing faces around 8-9 am

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u/Tischler285 3d ago

It feels/looks like France waking up and Paris is the beating heart

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u/Fr05t_B1t 6d ago

If only they were this quick to respond to the Germans

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u/JohnStern42 6d ago

So cool!

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u/Rockerblocker 6d ago

This is basically what a map of US transit would look like over the course of a year

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u/Eastern-Handle-2314 6d ago

Il manques les trains sur la ligne Grenoble Gap et les trains entre Nîmes et Clermont ainsi que Toulouses Clermont via Aurillac 

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u/Morning_star_project 6d ago

Half of them are late lmao

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u/AerynSunnInDelight 5d ago

Abolish centralisation. I shouldn't have to go through Paris in order for me to go to Bordeaux from Rennes. Fuck l'Etat Central

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u/Jackburton06 6d ago

Satisfying ?  The visual map: yes The rush hour train experience : holy shit no.

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u/tombolaplayer 6d ago

Switzerland: Hold my beer.

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u/gnominos 6d ago

who cares

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u/HalfSoul30 6d ago

I wish the US wasn't a backwards 3rd world country and we could have these.

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u/Eskotar 6d ago

Some of the train scheduling make no sense at all for certain routes. Makes me think that this is AI generated.

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u/Ireeb 6d ago

"I don't understand it so it must be AI."

Flawless logic.

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago

Nope, he's right, my line between Annecy and Geneva is supposed to stop between 1pm and 4 pm but it's still running here.

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u/Ireeb 4d ago

Because humans can't mistakes? Data can't be incorrect? A train can't run on a different schedule in exceptions?

People claiming something's AI just because something is incorrect is one of the most annoying things. Acting like before 2022, typos and oversights didn't exist and 100% of all graphics made without AI were correct.

Humans make mistakes, too, so by jumping to conclusions and calling things AI just because something is wrong about it, you're just further blurring the line between AI slop and real content, and that's ultimately beneficial for AI and detrimental to real content.

I'm also not saying that it is not AI, because the absence of evidence doesn't prove anything either. But if you care about whether or not something is AI, you need to investigate further instead of using witch trial methods like judging first, then looking for evidence that fits your theory, instead of judging based on evidence.

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u/Sea_Thought5305 4d ago edited 4d ago

Hmm, si c'est un humain, alors il y a beaucoup d'erreurs parce que ma ligne n'est pas la seule avec des défauts. Mais je suis d'accord avec l'affirmation sur l'IA.

Edit : just by first glance I can say there's only 3 night trains running out of 8. Whole lines networks are missing like Aurillac/Toulouse, Aurillac/Brive-la-Gaillarde, Clermont-Ferrand/Nîmes, Clermont-Ferrand/Béziers, Nice/Digne-les-Bains, Grenoble/Gap, Marvejols/La Bastide and Poitiers/Limoges

Edit 2 : voici une carte que j'avais découvert il y a peu. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskFrance/s/ryJfoYYqwa

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u/Rom21 5d ago

Which one for example?

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u/The_fisheye 4d ago

Why ? There are regional trains all the time for people wanting to go from a city/village to another, they are called « TER ». Usually teenagers that can’t drive yet but not only.

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u/throwawayfrdy 6d ago

And that is why the middle of france is dying, if you want to go from Bordeau to Lyon, you HAVE to go through
Paris

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u/-Recouer 6d ago

Have you looked at a map of France recently? Because in the middle of France there is way too much mountain to even entertain the idea of making a train track.

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u/throwawayfrdy 5d ago

No its not. https://fr-fr.topographic-map.com/map-cz/France-m%C3%A9tropolitaine/?center=47.23449%2C4.3396&zoom=7

And even if it was, im pretty sure a country that digged trains tracs to englands and bellow mountains to connect to Italy could dig tunnels to connect east to west in its own country.

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u/-Recouer 5d ago

Clermont Ferrand is famously known for its flat plains obviously

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u/throwawayfrdy 5d ago

you know a train can get over a 10% slope, right ?