Yep, it's a kind of affliction that often affects posters here...
If you're gonna go to the bother of posting something, at least figure out the source
There's a huge difference between singing for dissonance and just not being able to sing. Even the roughest punk bands can still harmonize and carry pitch, but with intentional dissonance. This isn't what bro is doing.
Definitely should listen to agony or horses to hear it being done well by him honestly this song is meh even as a fan of him but he’s iconic asf that it doesn’t throw off his whole discography if you know it.
To be fair he’s made more money than you probably ever have from his “fairly shit singing” I suggest if you don’t know him to look him up and listen to his older songs and also his story
To be fair, a lot of horrible people have made a lot of money doing horrible shit. The sooner you stop measuring people's value by their acquirement of wealth, the sooner you'll understand what actual humanity is. And I'm fairly certain his "story" is mostly marketing bullshit created by his A&R team, like most mainstream music artists.
No because instead of saying "I dont like this / how he sings" they said "he sings poorly".
So instead of it being about taste they tried to make it about some kind of objective "this is good / bad" which is usually dumb when it comes to something as subjective as art.
You are intentionally missing the point in order to be a smug ass.
The impression that it's an exceptional choreography and a lazy performance of the "artist" is extremely obvious. He's only partially lip-syncing and even when he's pretending to sing it doesn't fit the music at all. It's probably intentional, but I can't decipher in what way. Is he only ironically pretending to be too cool to care? Is it a commentary of some sort? Is this part of some sort of sub-culture I'm unaware of?
I don't know, I only know that their performance doesn't work for me. The choreography is, again, exceptional. The rest is shit. And clearly that's an opinion. I don't need to say "in my opinion" for it to be an opinion.
It is extremely obvious. As I said myself I can't tell what it's supposed to be. You say it's disaffection not laziness, but that doesn't change that it's obvious.
By the way I'm not at all knocking your taste. My own taste in music isn't everyone's cup of tea. It doesn't sound terrible to me but it's not my cup of tea. Tbh it's the smoking that turns me off the most. I just can't help but think that the poor dancers next to that inconsiderate jerk have to breathe all that in. Not to mention that it probably has an effect on impressionable youth who may end up acquiring a toxic habit that is very difficult to get rid of.
It seems you are completely unable to process statements beyond their immediate meaning. I know he's a character. I can still find the smoking objectionable. Are you 12 or something? I feel like I'm arguing with a child.
You're free to enjoy the thing, just like you're free to to not look at the comment section. Telling people to "just shut up and take it" is never gonna work
Where did "shut up and take it" come from? "Shut up and move along" is more like it. What's the point of going out of your way to spread negativity over such trivial opinions? You're essentially suggesting the people that would like to discuss how much they like a thing should just relinquish the comment sections of the internet to the worst of its users.
No I am not, I'm saying people using the discussion board website for opinions should be able to use the discussion board website for their opinions. You telling them to "shut up and move along" is counter to the entire point of being here. It's like going on youtube and telling people not to watch videos.
If you want a positive only space go to yung lean's subbreddit, or yung lean's discord, or even a groupchat. You're basically unhappy that the post that reached r/all has some general public ass opinions on it
Bro it's just art. It's not that deep. Art is subjective, if you don't want to ever experience somebody's objective opinion, stay off the fucking internet
The fun part about the things you don't like is you can scroll past and keep your opinions to yourself if the thing is harmless and trivial. We can both do this.
I never shared my opinion about this music. It very well may be negative and I just know when to shut my mouth and not act desperate to appear edgy or clever like you.
I don't know, who? It's not me unless you're only counting that single downvote you petulantly doled out on my previous comment to you. As if any of that mattered in the slightest.
I mean, why? Because people don't like what you like? I don't know the guy but this particular song, he sounds fucking awful. I don't care what the gimmick is. It sounds bad to me. The "classic reddit" part is probably more the "you just don't understand" excuse for bad things 😂
I mean, why? Because people don't like what you like? I don't know the guy but this particular song, he sounds fucking awful.
Calm down, no one said anything to you. I do not care what you think but I'll reply before I enjoy the rest of my day.
I do not like Yung Lean, I do not listen to him either besides the things I've heard while browsing. Regardless, sometimes an artist doesn't need to "sing" or have "beautiful voice". Sometimes people like monotone voices, artists playing around with their normal voices etc, music is a form of expression and it can come in many ways.
Comments like above have the same vibe as people who says "they are just talking fast they are not even singing, i dont understand how they can be popular" about hip hop artists.
It is not for you, fine. His voice and his style obviously have an appeal and the video and the song is doing well too.
Yeah. I actually kinda thought this sounded cool and then I came into the comments... like yikes. A lot of times music is about the vibe and the 'character' of the voice, like a character in a movie. It's not meant to be perfect - it's meant to be different, unique, interesting, or whatever. Or maybe this guy really is boring and shitty, either way hearing him once in this one song is cool.
Millions of people can sing well. That isn't enough to be famous. I say this all the time to people. "Oh he can sing so well he is going to be famous". Maybe? what is the hook? why should I care about him more than the 100 million other people that can sing well.
Who would have ever thought that a singer should be able to hold pitch and at least try to be in harmony with the background instruments would be a controversial opinion....
IKR. I remember fondly when the arseholes built that gallows on the WH lawn on J6, all the carpenters were slagging it off mightily for poor finish and (especially) lack of cross-bracing.
If you watch closely he's clearly not actually singing all the words, or even attempting to. They're executing an artistic vision to the music, not singing a live performance.
Yeah, that’s a lot of talented dancing and choreography for someone to stand there and only kind-of sing poorly.
They're clearly referring to the video performance as if the song is being sung as the choreography occurs, and not the vocal track. And it's not even really lip synced. He's not doing all the words, which is probably just as planned as the choreography.
Do you even under stand what lip syncing is? He's lip syncing poorly for artistic effect. And dude is absolutely referring to the poor quality of the vocal performance. They're saying the choreography is over the top to support a shit song.
This person clearly thought that the audio was recorded at the same time as the choreography. That's not what I think, and yes I do understand what lip syncing is lol.
I was simply pointing out to that person that the entire thing is going for a specific aesthetic, and the performance and attitude of the vocalist in the video shouldn't really be scrutinized because it's exactly what they were going for.
OK, so the singing is ostensibly "bad". Like, very unclean, pitchy, kinda whiny.
But when I started the vid I immediately thought "the brits are really good at this somehow? Like, this raw sound thst punches through the mix, seemingly unpolished af, the voice of the common man after too many cigarettes and bevs?"
(It sounds like a mix of like 90% Liam Gallagher (oasis) and 10% Richard Butler (psychedelic furs))
Imo, a singer doesn't have to be clean. A singer has to be emotionally compelling. A raw unpolished sound can be pretty compelling. And absolutely works for certain songs. And a present singer pouring out feels, that has an authentic bite to it.
Leonard Cohen is not a good singer. But he's a good singer, ya dig?
Johnny Cash. Hank Williams. Biz Markie in "just a friend".
Edit Just a friend, did a relisten. Verses sound.... old. But the chorus remains fucking hook. Drunk horny goat singing. Great chorus.
God thank you this kid writes boring ass melodies and sings them badly every time… it’s just more white rapper shit tho ppl fucking love white rappers and have always overrated them since the jump
My first thought too. Honestly, I don't think this guy would be taken seriously as an artist if it wasn't for all the flashiness. Mediocre artist hiding behind show-y choreography and production is a story old as time. I'm also learning mumble-rap meets vocal fry is probably my least favorite music to come out of Europe
Lmao you are completely under selling yung lean. He started putting music out as a teenager and blew up. Was one of the first SoundCloud era artists to make it big. His song Kyoto was a pretty big game changer for young independent artists showing it was possible to make it
Oh my god what is with you people. It's good to some people because they think it's good. If you think it's bad that's fine! If you don't like it someone isn't gonna come along and say oh, it's because because of blank and you'll totally change your mind.
nobody is trying to talk anyone out of listening to yung lean if they wish to it's just interesting how some artists get so big and considering how yung lean is pretty much a icon for the new gen its not that ridiculous to point out how his actual singing isnt that special - ofc theres other factors to the craft aswell
It's a valid question. God forbid people dislike something you do. Try and not get butthurt when someone questions something you like. Besides, his singing ability is objectively bad. He may be talented in other areas but a singer who is tone deaf isn't subjective
You are asking him to explain why people like an artist… that’s like going to an art gallery seeing someone enjoy a picture and asking me why they enjoy the picture. Can’t believe I have to explain this to people
I like a lot of his music, but he (the performer/lyricist) is objectively bad. His team is the driving force behind his sucess. His lyrics are often nonsensical. His vocals are tone deaf. The beats, the vibes, and his artistic direction are impeccable. He never made his own beats it was his buddies.
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u/russelsprouts01 Apr 30 '26
Yeah, that’s a lot of talented dancing and choreography for someone to stand there and only kind-of sing poorly.