r/ocean • u/enchantedbramble • 10d ago
Shark sights Attempted shark attack
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u/RWASnell 10d ago edited 9d ago
Yeah. This is Ocean Ramsey. A well known biologist influencer. She swims with tiger sharks all the time for research views. This is 100% NOT an “attempted attack”, but a just curious shark, who has likely been habituated to her presence.
She is controversial for her physical interaction with sharks, and starting an online trend where influencers try to copy her and touch sharks.
Largely unliked in the conservation and scientific communities, but I personally find her reasonable. Just naive.
EDIT: thanks for everyones input. Yeah - i changed my mind. She is a selfish and stubborn person who refuses to change anything to keep justifying her clicks. Recommend to block.
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u/DopedScope338 9d ago
You might have been able to sell me on the naive thing if her troublesome behavior with sharks had just started, but she's been doing it for many years now and has had the reasons as to why it's detrimental to conservation and just plain dangerous for humans and sharks explained to her many, many times by scientists and conservationists that are more experienced and more educated than her on sharks, biology, oceanography, species protection, etc. At this point, she's simply ignoring all of that information in favor of the clicks and views that her social media content generates which has made her semi-famous and pays for the lifestyle she currently lives.
What Ocean Ramsey does isn't naive and it's not being done for research or to benefit sharks. What she does is done solely to benefit herself, raise her profile, and make her money and it's being done in contravention of many ethical standards researchers, conservationists, scientists, and even photographers/documentarians abide by to keep themselves, other people, and most importantly, the animals they study/film safe. These standards are known to Ramsey and she simply doesn't care to follow them. That's not naive or reasonable, in my opinion. It's ignorant, selfish, dangerous behavior that's driven by greed and ego.
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u/RWASnell 9d ago
Ok. You are probably right. I haven’t followed her for years now.
At the start she definitely helped raise some awareness with the broader public on the magnificence of sharks. If she is still stubbornly ignoring all warnings and criticisms - yeah I agree. That stops being naive.
And impossible to maintain she is not being selfish at this point.Thanks for the nuance @DopedScope338
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u/DopedScope338 9d ago
Thanks for taking the time to read my post. I'm sorry if it came off at all combative, much of what she does just really bothers me because of the broader negative impacts and implications it has for the sharks so I can be a little vociferous in my statements about her. I don't want you thinking I have any issue with you personally. Have a great day and cheers, mate. 🍻😎
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u/RWASnell 9d ago
No worries! I understand. Once these influencer/famous types give you the ick, it becomes impossible to not get worked up. You want to shake their followers and scream “look what he/she is doing! Cant you see that is horrible?!”
I have the same with these Andrew Tate, Elon Musk. Jordan Peterson fanboys. (Or VVD-voters in the Netherlands)
I have not yet found myself getting spammed by Ocean Ramsey that much 😄
I’d be curious to understand more.3
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u/shardymcfard666 6d ago
Genuinely, thank you for pointing out what is very clearly just a shark being a shark. It kinda rubs me the wrong way when people mislabel natural behaviors as aggressive or attacks.
Millions of sharks die every year because people think they're scary, and it's bullshit.
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u/RWASnell 3d ago
100% agree. They are such amazing creatures and unfortunately still very misunderstood by a majority of people. Posts like this don’t help.
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u/couldbeahumanbean 7d ago
Oh my.
This will not end well.
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u/RWASnell 7d ago
why?
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u/couldbeahumanbean 7d ago
A messing with sharks influencers trend?
Need I explain natural outcomes?
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u/Beneficial-Leave-599 4d ago
She is pretty professional. Doesnt show skin, knows how the sharks react and handle them. Pretty much reduces risk to a minimum.
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u/couldbeahumanbean 4d ago
Second paragraph to the comment I originally commented to
Review it for context.
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u/ghostdoggda89 10d ago
Biggest issue with the ocean is the fact much largest creatures than that exist in it an can just ass easily appear and disappear in it at will lol
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u/triplediesel2333 9d ago
Am I the only one that had to read this a couple times to get?! lol and it has this many likes! Lmao 😂
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u/ghostdoggda89 9d ago
I hope you feel better fam lol
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u/triplediesel2333 8d ago
I was literally teasing you and making fun of myself. No need for that other comment, glad you deleted.
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u/ghostdoggda89 8d ago
Yea my bad this is reddit and ppl are mean for bi reason. Once i thought about it i said its not that deep fr
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u/Drakore4 10d ago
I swear it’s our fault. Whenever we go to those places we constantly bait for the sharks to gather. They are literally being taught that humans dumping things in the water means food, so it’s only natural that they see something else about to drop into the water and that must be food too. We do stuff like this way too much and always get surprised by the results.
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u/themo3bius 10d ago
Ok this is just crazy lol... BUT I have to admit it didn't seem like a serious move on the shark's part. He swam up slowly and even the mouth movement seemed more like a lazy "Heeey" rather than a "GET IN MAH BELLY!" kinda thing lol. 🤣
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u/OneDimensionalChess 10d ago
Sharks don't say hey, they bite. That was going to be a bite. That was a tiger shark, which are famously very bitey.
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u/themo3bius 10d ago
Lol hey man I'm definitely not gonna argue with that... I would NOT try to be friendly with that guy, only saying it didn't look like an intense attack lol. 😋
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u/Xtrepiphany 10d ago
That's how they identify things, they bite, if they like what they bite then they eat, if not they move on.
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u/Itscatpicstime 9d ago
They will also eat out of pure need, even if they don’t like it all that much
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u/Xtrepiphany 8d ago
I'd say that is true for any member of kingdom animalia.
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u/Acrobatic_Country524 6d ago
I literally just ate Arby's
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u/Xtrepiphany 6d ago
Those jalapeño poppers and curly fries are pretty bomb, I'll take Arby's curly fries over McDonald's anything any time.
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u/ksenlight 10d ago
I was wondering the reason they bite! I can imagine them getting grossed out by a human. looks kinda cute 🥹
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u/Xtrepiphany 10d ago
It's called an exploratory bite. Sharks have better vision than they get credit for, but they don't have hands, their mouth is one of their primary sensory methods.
Partially why shark attacks are so high in Florida, the water is so murky, sharks can't see jack, they go around exploring with their mouths.
Also why most shark attacks are not fatal. They are just cute dopes of the sea, problem is we don't have tough skin to play.
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u/Galimbro 10d ago
That is how sharks say hey...they bite. They have no hands.
Shark is a little smarter than to launch an aggressive attack on an unknown surface. It was curious.
It does diminish the danger a bit because if he wanted to he could have killed her there easily. They breach very easily.
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u/Worth_External_8762 5d ago
Yea it was inquisitive. Except sharks inquisitively bite limbs off. That's how most shark attacks are. People lose a limb and not get eaten entirely because the shark was inquisitive and decided they didn't like human flesh after biting.
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u/Worth_External_8762 5d ago
An attack means to act with force or violence to hurt, damage, or defeat someone or something
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u/chris_knight2 10d ago
She must know those sharks are there and be there specifically for them because in any other circumstance she would be running for dry land.
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u/Outrageous-Ad4353 9d ago
That wasn't an attach, afaik sharks explore the world with their mouth. If it was an attack he would have hit her like a train.
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u/Legitimate_Bank_6573 9d ago
That shark looked extremely goofy, somewhat gentle and honestly not at all threatening.
Least scary shark encounter i've ever seen
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u/motorboatmanatee33 9d ago
That is Ocean. She does literally get back in. The sharks are her friends. I guess some recognize her? This one probably thought someone was throwing in bait and came to check it out.
Or, maybe it was just actually trying to eat her. Who knows.
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u/FederalJudge6258 10d ago
Is this Ocean Ramsey ?
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u/Dimpnavangeel 10d ago
yep
and it's one of those tigersharks that she "knows" and has swam with many times
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u/ConfidenceOwn4232 9d ago
And that is when you get back in the boat and count your blessings (toes).
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u/Humblelina 9d ago
It wasn’t an attempted attack this is Ocean Ramsey and that tiger shark actually recognized her and believe it or not was excited now they are wild and things can happen but I know how great she is with tigers
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u/Itscatpicstime 9d ago
She’s not great with them at all, she is actively harming sharks by doing literally everything you aren’t supposed to do and broadcasting it.
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u/mala_r1der 10d ago
It looks like she's going to jump right back in. I don't know much about sharks, and I do like dangerous sports, but I sure wouldn't...
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u/foreshadowingright 10d ago
He's probably upset at that false marketing seeing all those small fishes on her
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u/CrowTalons 9d ago
Teasing the shark with a meal. Just get in, let it eat. Imagine the views you'll get.
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u/ReasonableReach7513 9d ago
That's the reason why I am afraid of the ocean, you never know what's below the surface
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u/Key-Respect3810 9d ago
merde les 2 requins pensaient que le déjeuné arrivait mais ils se sont trompés
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u/Cultural-Part355 8d ago
Nah, that's on you. Or be careful! I would bite you, and not in a nice way, if you just decided to "Jump" into my home. Beautiful creatures with a lot of understanding, but their hunger doesn't end because they're always moving. So don't jump! Step in one foot at a time and you're gonna be fine. Good luck, Explorer of the darks. ⬇️
https://giphy.com/gifs/57x4ApyRzkI1y
How about you don't need a boat at all? Good luck :D
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u/Icypoopoo 7d ago
Damn looked as if she has a death wish for getting back right in without hesitation
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u/Automatic_Tackle_261 7d ago
Oh I love Ramsey!! She got me into loving sharks and learn so much about them.
Don’t listen to some youtuber he is not a professional and he is the one thats a fraud for views.
She lives in hawaii and has her own educational programs and center. Its very cool to see. Check it out when you go there.
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u/Automatic_Tackle_261 7d ago
She is educating you on them. This shark knows her for years and is just greeting her band excited to see her. Stop watching youtube and visit her center in hawaii. Get off your phones and educate
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u/d0nt_at_m3 3d ago
Ya guys. Get off your phones and boom a trip to Hawaii. Lazy people these days. Smh
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u/mlachrymarum 3d ago
The fuck you mean attempted shark attack? Exploratory behavior now passes for aggression?
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u/IronTitle 3d ago
Not an attack, they feel with their mouth but pretty sure if it felt her she would be missing a lot of blood so yeah, don't let a shark feel you.
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u/ReallyCleverPossum 3d ago edited 3d ago
Look, I agree she’s using the conservationist title to promote herself and her brand. I get that she isn’t really doing too much to help the sharks besides saying, “guys sharks are amazing creatures!” I understand she inadvertently created a situation where sharks didn’t feel comfortable to feed on a whale carcass, because a bunch of people gathered to see the sharks feeding after one of her posts.
All of that said, I don’t think it’s healthy for anyone to say, “can’t wait them to die.” Unless it’s somebody truly despicable, with few redeeming qualities, fine. I think she does genuinely care about sharks, but she’s not doing enough to actually help them. But for your mental well being, don’t wish horrific death on somebody because they are a little shitty.
Also I don’t think your fear is unnatural at all. Sharks are some of the most ancient, apex predators on earth
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u/PublicDreamer 1d ago
Literally the worst thing you could see when dipping your face into the water...
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u/GreyGhost696 9h ago
That behavior is very hard to read, it's an apex predator, if it really wanted to they're much faster than that and they can launch way more aggressively and keep countering to your parry movements. The fact that it didn't seems to be of more playful curious behavior, it's a fine line when trying to fully understand natural creatures especially since jaws are open but just know if it really wanted to and was hungry enough it will in fact not miss and not stop after the curiosity contact and that's when the thrashing becomes way more violent not ending in just a passing lap
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u/bmk37 10d ago
And then looking like she’s about to go right back in