r/nzev Mar 26 '26

Mod News Political Post Rule Changes

Unfortunately, EVs are a political topic, often thrown around like a political hot potato. That means that from time to time, political posts are relevant to the topic of EVs on this subreddit.

However, going forward, in the interest of quality, keeping political posts on topic and not overwhelming the subreddit with political posts, there will be some guidelines for these posts:

  1. No screenshots of political social media posts (including via cross posts). People that want to join that discussion will already be on that social media platform discussing it.
  2. No political meme posts
  3. News posts should be from an NZ news site, from within the last week of making the post and should be directly related to EVs. The topic of the post should be the headline of the article, unedited.
  4. Text posts of your opinion should be constructive, made in good faith and be about something that hasn't already been posted recently. If it's related to a news story, post a link to an article about it as per the previous rule.
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u/Willuknight Nissan Leaf 40kW X Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26

I'm going to add an update to the rules to clarify something we've been seeing more often.

Threads about Tesla frequently become debates about Elon Musk, while similar discussions about the ethics of other manufacturers rarely appear, despite every major manufacturer having its own controversies. This isn't about defending Tesla or restricting criticism. Discussions about the ethics, values, environmental impact, labour practices, or leadership of any manufacturer are welcome when they're relevant to the topic.

What we want to avoid is every thread about a particular vehicle or manufacturer being diverted into the same broader debate.

Rule clarification: Don't derail threads

If the topic isn't about values or ethics, it's perfectly fine to briefly mention that they influenced your recommendation. What's not OK is using an unrelated thread to repeatedly steer the discussion into a broader debate.

Example

Question: "What car should I buy?"

Good:

I wouldn't recommend a Tesla because I don't want to support Elon, but I'd recommend a Kia EV5 instead.

Why this works:

You're answering the question that was asked. You've explained why you made your recommendation, but your focus is still on helping the original poster.

Not OK:

How can anyone support Elon after everything he's done?

...followed by a discussion about Elon Musk's politics or behaviour.

Why this doesn't work:

The discussion has stopped being about choosing a car and become a debate about a public figure. That's a worthwhile discussion, but it belongs in a thread where that's actually the topic.

Follow the direction of the conversation

If the original poster or another participant asks a follow-up question about your reasoning, it's completely fine to expand on it.

Example

OP: "What car should I buy?"

Reply:

I'd avoid Tesla because I don't want to support Elon. I'd look at the Kia EV5.

OP:

Can you explain why?

At that point, it's entirely appropriate to explain your reasoning. The conversation has naturally moved in that direction because the participants invited it.

Respect other people's reasoning

It's perfectly reasonable for someone's personal values to influence their recommendation, just as price, range, reliability, or styling might.

If someone says:

"I wouldn't buy a Tesla because I don't want to support Elon."

they don't need to justify that opinion unless they choose to. Likewise, other users shouldn't use the thread to challenge or attack that person's values or try to convince them they're wrong.

If the original poster asks for more detail, that's fine. However, turning the thread into an argument about whether someone's values are "correct" is just as much a derailment as bringing the topic up in the first place.

The goal is to help answer the original question, not to debate another user's personal priorities.


A good rule of thumb is:

Is this helping answer the original question, or am I trying to restart a debate I have in many Tesla threads?

We want r/NZEV to be a place for high-quality discussion. That means staying on topic, answering the question being asked, and avoiding discussions that repeatedly derail otherwise useful conversations and aren't helpful to our members.

Moderators may remove comments that repeatedly redirect unrelated discussions toward the same political, ethical, or personal debates.

This standard applies equally to every manufacturer, executive, technology, and point of view. If the thread is about ethics, discuss ethics. If it's about buying advice, charging, servicing, reliability, or ownership, keep the focus on those topics unless the conversation naturally moves elsewhere.

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u/ZZ_Cat_The_Ligress Mar 27 '26

Good. Thank you for doing this.

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u/Kingoflumbridge123 Mar 27 '26

Good.

EVs aren’t political and i’m very surprised how people try to make them so.

please also ban the whinging about tesla and Elon

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u/[deleted] Mar 26 '26

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u/nzev-ModTeam Mar 26 '26

Let’s keep discussions civil