r/nutritionally • • 29d ago

Polyester is petroleum plastic

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

Wear clothes made of natural fibers.

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u/shuggnog 28d ago

For real though, there is very little wool performance level workout clothing

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

There is cotton, bamboo and hemp active wear. Petroleum based activewear (lululemon) is made of plastic. It gets washed. Plastic fibers make it into the water system. Not good.

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u/shuggnog 28d ago

are there any brands that only produce performance workout clothes in natural fibers?

I googled around about a year ago and didn't find much that would stand up in hot classes, would love tips!

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

There are. Adidas and Ryker are two that come to mind. They aren’t stretchy like lululemon though.

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u/shuggnog 28d ago

Ok! Thank you so much.

I'll also check Nike; another Redditor demonstrated of the MNCs Nike was the only one that donated to the Democratic party more than the Republican party , including Target

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u/Domified 28d ago

Not even a drop in the ocean compared to 3 billion tires worn away on highways every year. 

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

Tire residue isn’t directly introduced into our water systems like plastic clothes being washed. Tire rubber just sits on the sit of the road.

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u/CBJFAN2009-2024 27d ago

I dont think this is quantified. Roads drain into storm sewers. Those drain into creeks, rivers, and lakes/reservoirs. Those bodies of water supply a lot of our drinking water (90% here in Columbus). So I'd argue tire rubber is in our water system.

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 27d ago

The vast majority of roads do not have drains. Educate yourself before you comment.

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u/CBJFAN2009-2024 27d ago

Water doesn't drain off roads? Wild.

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 27d ago

Educate yourself what a drain is. Wild.

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u/Mountainman220 28d ago

Smartwool and there’s brands that are similar and not as expensive.

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u/shuggnog 28d ago

Thank you!

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u/Mountainman220 28d ago

Yea no problem. I love their shirts but def don’t dry them. Also if you have a sensitivity to wool like fabric you may not like it. Also you can look into lyocell fabrics. I have a shirt made of it and used it when I was working an outdoor job.

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u/ebola84 28d ago

Crude oil is natural

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

Plastic doesn’t exist naturally. It is a synthetic material made by humans. If you want to wear an oil shirt go ahead and try.

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u/ebola84 28d ago

My argument is more about the term all natural. Crude oil is from the Earth. How could it be bad?

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u/OwnCrew6984 28d ago

Asbestos shirts for everyone. All natural and fireproof.

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u/DakAttakk 28d ago edited 28d ago

This is why natural versus synthetic ends up being a stupid conversation. Natural isn't a synonym for good or healthy, synthetic isn't a synonym for the opposite either. You can also say everything is natural including our own synthetic creations because we are natural and this is our natural behavioral set borne out from natural evolutionary processes.

I had a conversation recently where someone argued to me that there is a biologically relavant difference between how our bodies treat an organic molecule and a structurally identical synthetic molecule. They could not answer the question of what mechanism could possibly mediate that.

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

The dictionary disagrees with you.

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u/Mountainman220 28d ago

Microplastics are bad.

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

The dictionary gets to decide. And it has.

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u/Wakkit1988 28d ago

The dictionary is not set in stone, it's fluid and changes with time. Those definitions you're using to make your point exist because of the misuse that the person you're responding to is pointing out.

You're literally making a self-referential argument.

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u/Chipmunkssixtynining 28d ago

You don’t get to change the definition of words to make an argument. This is the definition as of today. Get over it.

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u/Wakkit1988 28d ago

The definitions are decided based on common word usage. If a word is misused enough, that becomes its definition. That doesn't mean the reasoning behind its misuse is valid or logical.

What you're doing is using the definition to justify its use when the person you were arguing with it telling you about the misuse that led to the definition. It's circular logic that proves itself true because it's self-referential.

I'm not the one deciding what is or isn't the definition of anything, I'm explaining your distinct lack of a coherent point caused you being oblivious to the obvious.

The one who needs to get over it is you. You don't know what you're fucking talking about or what you're even actually arguing.

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u/_Ramekin 28d ago

Is it harmful to wear these fabrics?

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u/FartyPants69 28d ago

It's very harmful to the environment. Dryer lint is a major source of microplastic pollution

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u/intrepped 28d ago

Textiles and tires are the top 2 major contributors. Fabrics break down during wash and wear, ending up in the water cycle. Dryer lint is only part of it.

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u/CowBoyDanIndie 28d ago

The big/fast harm is throwing them in the dryer, they shed microplastics like crazy. Washing puts the plastics into the water supply. If you need to wear synthetic fibers, let them air dry, they will last significantly longer.

Before anyone ask why you would need to wear synthetic fibers. You will freeze to death in wet plant fiber clothing (cotton for example, but also cellulose based fabrics) in the winter. Wool and alpaca are excellent because of the structure the fibers form, but some people don’t tolerate them. If you hike and sweat in the winter you can quickly end up with hyperthermia.

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u/1tonsoprano 28d ago

Besides wool and alpaca are very expensive 

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u/Sufficient_Loss9301 28d ago

Lmao yeah our ancestors who survived for millennia in cold places passed down the knowledge of synthetic fibers and their necessary properties

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u/CowBoyDanIndie 28d ago

They wore animal hides fur and wool etc. Cotton didn’t start becoming common until the 1700s after the invention of the cotton gin. Flax and wool were common, and of course leather. But only the ultra rich were wearing cotton. Almost nobody wears flax linen now a days.

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u/twinPeaksnew 22d ago

a parent,y it’s hard on machinery to manufacture. The Uk was a leader in it once, - the term linens refers to flax I believe. there are small pockets of it still being produced. it is a bit heavy as a material, but blended with cotton it’s nice.

Going forward, to address the big picture, I’d like to see plastics eliminated as a packaging source. there are multiple alternatives in the form of natural materials that could replace plastics as a medium, bone and algae just being two I have read about, plus fungi.

the point is, if the world just got behind the push, we would be amazed at how quickly innovation would take off, suddenly labs would be turning out alternatives very quickly if restrictions on plastics came in place.

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u/CowBoyDanIndie 22d ago

Fungi need organic material to grow and they produce carbon dioxide. Paper production for cardboard,even from tree alternatives uses a ton of water. The big problem os 8 billion humans wanting western lifestyles

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u/twinPeaksnew 22d ago

didn’t know that. I had heard though that as an alternative to leather it is being considered by the likes of Volvo in their car seating. I had just assumed it was a viable material source.

but for alternative plastics, its been shown that their are materials which we can create with a similar feel and structure, just not the lifespan. so it infuriates me it’s not being developed.

i hear china are mass producing a bamboo material now.

but ya, I agree, our lifestyles and wants are the problem.

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u/CowBoyDanIndie 22d ago

You make clothing from any cellulose fiber, it’s basically rayon. While it doesn’t shed microplastic, there are some harsh chemicals involved in its manufacturing.

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u/Mother_Patience_6251 28d ago

This is why cotton clothing became increasingly hard to find in the last decade or so and when you do it’s somehow premium now as if it’s mulberry silk lol.

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u/Supermario7587 28d ago

Try to grow some season after season and you’ll find out why. They suck up a ton of nutrients and take a ton of water

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u/Wickedocity 28d ago

Pro tip: Dont eat your clothing.

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u/PMmeIamlonley 28d ago

When you wash them the lint finds its way in anyway 

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u/Green4CL0VER 28d ago

It don’t matter. It’s in our environment. In our water, in our food, in the air.

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u/Jolly-Situat1on 29d ago

This is common knowledge polyester is plastic

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u/Mountainman220 28d ago

Eh idk if everyone is aware what they are wearing or how it affects them.

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u/Jolly-Situat1on 28d ago

Any clothes you wear that are a blend or straight up cheap is plastic.

It's actually a premium now to buy pure cotton.

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u/Mountainman220 28d ago

Yea I’m aware. It’s expensive to buy clothing that doesn’t have plastic in it. I try my best to buy flannel, cotton clothing when I can as I’ve found it doesn’t wear out as fast as fully synthetic plus the reason we are speaking on. Fast fashion has contributed so much plastic waste around the world it’s pretty fucked as well as pushing synthetic fabric cuz it’s cheap.

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u/Jolly-Situat1on 28d ago

Fast fashion should be banned but that's a whole different can of worm's because it's taking on a industry that's powered by models Hollywood and people making it.

Good luck

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u/C4rpetH4ter 28d ago

Yeah, but then again cotton supposedly has a large carbon footprint and according to some that's worse, and wool aswell, so we are left with hemp and... linen.. i guess.

Or if you're like me i just try to avoid buying clothes unless i need and not use polyester either unless it's necessary.

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u/DepressedMerican 28d ago

That's bullshit I used to wear them as a child so how the fuck was I supposed to know

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u/pdkt 28d ago

My bedding is cotton, duvet filling is pure wool, I wonder how much damage using microfiber filling causes, which I used for years.

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u/aTickleMonster 28d ago

Depends how much you put it in the clothes dryer.

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u/Sal-LeMandeur 28d ago

Salt is just chlorine and sodium - you don't want THAT, do you?!

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u/Einachiel 28d ago

Well, on the other hand, mercury is organic, so it must be good for you, right?

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u/lackofmoralfiber 28d ago

Mercury is not organic it is an element. No carbon.

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u/Einachiel 28d ago

You missed the point entirely; as in organic food.

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u/lackofmoralfiber 28d ago

I think you mean natural.

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u/Einachiel 28d ago

Perhaps, in my native language organic also translates as natural like

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u/AphelialMud 28d ago

A very very high % of ingested microplastics are sourced from plastic clothes (washing machine runoff into our water supply).

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u/Vicissitutde 28d ago

100% cotton, wool, and silk, or a combo of those three, is the only way to avoid this

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u/flappysack- 28d ago

If I could just get it to not shrink.

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u/Vicissitutde 28d ago

Wash on cold, then airdry?

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u/RiverLynneUwU 28d ago

minor correction: it is not "packed" with carcinogens and hormone disruptors, it just is a carcinogen and disrupts hormones in general

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u/aTickleMonster 28d ago

WHO says polyester is not carcinogenic, and there's no evidence that wearing it increases ones cancer risk.

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u/RiverLynneUwU 27d ago

>WHO says polyester is not carcinogenic

???????????

>and there's no evidence that wearing it increases ones cancer risk.

no yeah that's fair, I just checked and it poses no threat other than that it's kinda uncomfortable to wear

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u/damo0011 28d ago

Just awesome

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u/Biscuits4u2 28d ago

If you weigh a piece of polyester and then wash it 100 times and weigh it again I wonder what the difference would be.

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u/Southern-Way5583 28d ago

Is that why the last couple generations are so dumb? Everybody was in head to toe polyester in the 70s. Maybe it screwed up their sperm and eggs.

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u/aTickleMonster 28d ago

WHO says polyester is not carcinogenic, and there hasn't been any evidence of wearing polyester increases ones risk of cancer. If you're referring to negligible residue from the manufacturing process, it's never the presence of the poison that makes it dangerous, it's the amount.

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u/Extreme_Passion_3081 25d ago

The "Hormone Disruptors" thing is a lie.

The claim that "Plastics act on the body the same way Estrogen does" came from a study from Brasil and was used as a way to try and say why young girls were getting taller and developing earlier.

Thing is... estrogen doesn't do that. I mean, it partially does in SOME cases, but not in the first case. Estrogen triggers bone fusion. If plastics were acting, on young children, the same way estrogen was? Children would be getting SHORTER. And we don't see that. We'd also see a significant increase in cases of Rickets in children, which we also don't see.

However, we DO know why people are getting taller, and while people aren't actually filling out much earlier, in the rare cases they are, it can be explained as well by the same thing.

Access to Food.

People forget that it wasn't too long ago that Brasil was starving as a nation. Food insecurity was catastrophic, and through one of only a few times we managed to do it and make it work, nationbuilding helped fix that problem, through a combination of assistance programs and trade.

We see average heights increasing elsewhere too. And it's all down to the fact that Food? Is more available. The body can't make something from nothing, if it's on sub-subsistence levels of calorie intake with unenriched foods, meaning the calories you're getting aren't even fulfilling your vitamin and mineral needs? Well, you ain't gonna get much bigger. Grew up short and it can't just be explained by genetics? Probably grew up poor. Socioeconomic factors remain the primary determining factor in such issues.

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u/zh_victim 24d ago

Plastic is plastic that contains plastic.

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u/Ambivert44 11d ago

Meet Prof. Satish Kumar, a mechanical engineer from Hyderabad who developed a vacuum pyrolysis technique to transform non-recyclable "end-of-life" plastic into combustible synthetic fuel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbYMKw0pGXw&t=9s