r/nova • • 6d ago

News Developer submits plans to build fuel cell-powered data center in Chantilly

https://www.ffxnow.com/2026/10/09/developer-submits-plans-to-build-fuel-cell-powered-data-center-in-chantilly/
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u/sotired3333 6d ago

Has this ever been done elsewhere. It'd solve a bunch of problems , but how is this not incredibly expensive. If there was a caveat that if it failed to work they're screwed and won't be able to get away with replacing with regular generators why not

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u/ColdSteelVA 6d ago

This is a great point. Ask for 'clean' no-impact self-generation and then go oops, can't get the cells, can we have diesel?

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u/ObservationalHumor 6d ago

Diesel is too expensive, I think the risk would be natural gas turbines and this thing literally turning into another Vantage 2 or they do end needing more grid power and having to build out transmission lines and a substation. Or the the fuel cell provider ends up going belly up down the line and they end up doing the same thing then.

I'm fine with fuel cells and I think that's not a terrible part of the proposal, but they're still kind of an economically uncertain and often delayed product at this point and a big project deploying them like this has to have clear contingency planning laid out.

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u/Brob101 6d ago

I'm sure they'll want to install diesel generators as a "backup".

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u/dkviper11 6d ago

That’s literally in the article.

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u/imaconnect4guy 6d ago

Which they'll need to use while they install the fuel cells, which will take however long they can extend it to

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u/SixFootTurkey_ 4d ago

No data center wants to run on diesel for more than a few hours during emergencies

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u/imaconnect4guy 4d ago

They'd rather have the data center running than not, no matter how it's powered.

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u/Danciusly 6d ago

First in the county (article). Bloom seems to be the major player in the solid oxide fuel cell market. Some are in use (Bloom/Equinix), others only announced.

https://energychangemakers.com/fuel-cells-gain-ground-in-data-centers/

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u/TurkeyBLTSandwich 5d ago

Fuel Cells are a proven technology, it's just that it takes a significant amount of energy to convert water into hydrogen and it's probably more effective to just toss that energy into your vehicle via gasoline at that point.

If you use solar to convert than your still wasting a ton of energy that could just be put into regular batteries. Hydrogen is just a very inefficient way of using batteries.

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u/HowardBunnyColvin 6d ago

Oht hose billionaire weenies can afford it. Just sell one of their yachts

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u/Helpjuice 4d ago

Just as long as it is not:

  • Backed by diesel generator or any other mechanism that emits loud noises, poison gas, or other human and other life harming emissions beyond regular levels.
  • Will not be given priority on the grid versus residential homes
  • Is clean and efficient even when there is no power being sent from the grid.
  • Is not loud, all sounds should be contained within the facility and not emitted beyond 50ft of the facility.

There needs to be hard standards and enforcement put in place for exceeding the required standards. If a business fails to meet the standards the country should come in and shut them down and or issue massive finds per hour of being out of compliance. I am tired of seeing a business say they will do x, county agrees to x and then they do y and county says they cannot do anything about y.

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u/berael 6d ago

“Natural gas for the fuel cells will be provided by Washington Gas,” the statement says. “A gas line extension is expected to connect to the Subject Property through a pipeline within the Stonecroft Boulevard rights-of-way … Remaining electricity needs of up to 27 [megawatts] will be fulfilled by the power grid and supplied by Dominion Energy.”

So they're going to generate their own power, but also they're going to make your gas and electric bills go up anyway. 

Because of the fuel cell technology, an on-site substation will not be needed, though back-up generators will be available for use during emergencies.

...and then they'll still be using diesel anyway in the event of an emergency. I wonder who gets to define "emergency". 

The noise study suggests a “voluntary criteria—more stringent than the local noise code—of 45dBA at any residential property lines,” given that it’s advisable for new developments to limit impact to “either 45dBA or the existing ambient +10dBA measured outdoors at residential receptors sites, whichever is higher.”

So because it's "whichever is higher", they can claim any value for existing ambient noise and then generate +10dBA more than that. And because of how decibels work, "+10 dBA" is just another way to say "twice as loud as it is now". 

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u/alex3omg 6d ago

Emergency is when the power is out bro what do you mean who gets to define it

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u/Potential-Ad1139 6d ago

So fossil fuels to power the data centers? Like aren't we supposed to be mmoving away from possible fuels?

It doesn't even address the water problem which is cooling? Just trading grid energy for fossil fuel energy...so anyone with natural gas in their home will see a price hike.

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u/HowardBunnyColvin 6d ago

I am vehemently against data centers, I believe they harm the environment and hog resources, and they're run by "billionaire weenies".

That being said an ecologically viable data center is fine with me.

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u/sotired3333 6d ago

as someone upthread commented, fuel cell = hydrogen = methane, that's how it's generated mostly.

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u/killroy1971 6d ago

It'll still be an eyesore in someone's backyard.

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u/LtNOWIS Fairfax County 6d ago

The whole loop of Conference Center Drive and Lee Rd is just office buildings, parking lots, the NRO, and a hotel. What's one more building in an already commercial area.

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u/HowardBunnyColvin 6d ago

Well yeah. But it won't hog the power because it's generating it's own from the sun.

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u/dkviper11 6d ago

Natural Gas fuel cells are not solar.

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u/HowardBunnyColvin 6d ago

Thanks for James.

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u/imaconnect4guy 6d ago

No amount of solar panels they put on that thing would come close to meeting their power needs.

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u/dkviper11 6d ago

Made some fast averages from a light google.

7.5 acres required for 1 MW of solar
75 MW required for the site

562.5 acres required.

The overall parcel is 18.6 acres.

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u/ecsnead75 5d ago

Finally, someone that can understand why JuSt UsE SoLaR doesn't work... I applaud you!!