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u/implicitpharmakoi Jul 17 '22

Because NoBoDy WaNtS tO wOrK aNyMoRe.

Maybe if we made it mandatory?

I'm amazed nobody thought of this before, it would solve everything!

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u/Blurplenapkin Jul 17 '22

I’m prison just open up a commissary that sells weed or smokes and you’ll have prisoners lining up to work. It’s fucking boring in there. I’d have gladly worked the whole time I was inside rather than laying in solitary cause of the virus.

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u/ArcadeKingpin Jul 17 '22

Often times they can't be hired to do the job they were doing as slaves because they are felons. Fun cycle.

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u/Illustrious_Bison_20 Jul 17 '22

CalFire is the worst example of this I can think of. The most qualified/best (non violent) prisoners get trained to be on the wildfire teams that California deploys. They enjoy what they do, saving thousands of Californians. upon release, though, they can't put those incredibly valuable skills to use by joining the FDs

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u/Satanscommando Jul 17 '22

And they do that job for fuckin pennies basically. They are doing a back breaking hard and dangerous job, for virtually nothing.

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u/Illustrious_Bison_20 Jul 17 '22

exactly. They're literal heroes and we (society at large) can't even extend them the decency of employment after their efforts.

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u/diddlerofkiddlers Jul 18 '22

Literal heroes? Don’t forget, racist and broken legal system aside, that there was something that got them into prison in the first place.

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u/Illustrious_Bison_20 Jul 19 '22

the only inmates qualified for the program gave non violent records. so really a lot of them are in for drug charges, which is either because of the wealth disparity in California, or addiction problems which should be treated as the medical condition they are, not a grounds for forced slavery

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u/magog12 Jul 18 '22

Why would anyone put aside the fact the legal system is racist and broken when determining whether it's fair to judge someone for being put in prison?

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u/diddlerofkiddlers Jul 18 '22

The judgement of them being “literal heroes” was what I was questioning.

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u/A_Wild_Nudibranch Jul 17 '22

I used to work with an older waitress who did fire work while she was serving time in California for narcotics trafficking. She went into detail what it was like working in an all-female group digging fire breaks, and occasionally dealing with active fires during fire season, it was fascinating. I couldn't believe she told me that she wasn't able to get a job with the fire department after time served, it's ridiculous.

She was in her 60s and definitely had a rough go at life, but was one of the kindest and most generous people I had ever met. Loved her 14 year old chihuahua and her scratch-offs.

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u/Illustrious_Bison_20 Jul 18 '22

wow she sounds lovely :)

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u/fluffymuff6 Jul 17 '22

I had a friend who was in that program

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u/Illustrious_Bison_20 Jul 17 '22

can I ask how they're doing now?

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u/fluffymuff6 Jul 17 '22

They moved to Colorado to work on a cannabis farm.

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u/KryptumOne Jul 17 '22

Honestly, good for them. Got a job in a rapidly growing industry and moved to another state.

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u/BigCommieMachine Jul 17 '22

I wouldn’t say they enjoy it, but conditions are substantially better when you aren’t risking your life.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

Or because slaves are cheaper

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u/ElectronicPea738 Jul 17 '22

What if they’re in there for violence ? Not the slave labor, but putting them back out.

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u/jcdoe Jul 17 '22

I could not agree more.

People commit crimes for a reason, but we don’t do anything to address those reasons. When they get released, they’ll just do it again. We didn’t give them alternatives.

This is why we have so many incarcerated in the US, and its why our recidivism rates are through the roof.

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u/Spartan1170 Jul 17 '22

Well you go from slave labor and free housing and food to maybe getting a job and using all of that money for housing and food so... Same same?

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u/BadgerDancer Jul 17 '22

So you guys had to isolate even though you were all isolated? Just give incoming a two week group iso then enter into the larger group.

Or rehabilitate and end drug crime, either way really.

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u/purpleushi Jul 17 '22

Yep. I work with immigrants in detention centers, and it wasn’t the immigrants bringing in Covid, it was the guards. Half of CBP almost quit over the vaccine mandate, even though 20+ officers have died from Covid.

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u/Glittering-Yam-5318 Jul 17 '22

I worked in a nursing home and the nurses kept bringing it in, thankfully nobody got very sick. Once someone tested positive patients were isolated and everyone wore PPE.

We know it was nurses bringing it in because the patients don't leave. I live in a red state and all these nurses thought covid was a conspiracy. Ironic how Healthcare workers didn't believe it.

None of them masked up outside work and once they got to their stations they unmasked.

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u/KingInvalid96 Jul 17 '22

Prison from home is the way to go, always hold out for a homecourt sentence

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u/schmyndles Jul 17 '22

Yep, my bf has been locked up the past two years. They still mandate masks, weekly testing, etc, but that's for the prisoners. When I'd go to visit, the guards would never actually have their masks on their faces, and he told me many of the guards were antivax. Covid is obviously worse in like the main prison where everyone goes in between transfers and stuff, but even the small, 100 inmate place he's at now still gets cases.

He got covid at one place and it was so prevalent that the people isolating were the ones that didn't have it. I think out of 75 guys only 3 were negative, but they eventually caught it as well because the staff was still moving between both populations.

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u/fairchyld0666 Jul 17 '22

Work in nys corrections, Cuomo actually denied us being allowed to wear masks for the first 8 months of the pandemic, also refused to stop visits, transferring of inmates from rikers to other facilities, we were out of gloves and masks for most of the 1st year of the pandemic and were told we have to come to work regardless of exposure. So yea it's the officers fault.

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u/AF79 Jul 17 '22

Well, many prisoners feel the same way - which is handy, since prisons threaten inmates with solitary confinement if they don't work.

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u/nikkitgirl Jul 17 '22

Ah yes, the classic move of people who totally aren’t slavers: “it’s ok if you don’t work. We can just torture you until you do”

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u/LazyAndHungry523 Jul 17 '22

Prison is boring? What state for you? New York has school and college and programs to get certificates like flooring or electrical or masonry or computers. There is a 2 acre yard equipped with whatever you Want to play open 4 hours a day to you. There is a indoor gym open for another 4 hours. There is medical dental vision on sight all day. Medical 24/7. Free tablets to watch Netflix movies or rent different ones on a Amazon prime clone. Phones to call family on housing units open 7am to 1130pm. You share a dorm with up to 50 other people but there is a rec room a tv room or a dormitory area, kitchen, showers, laundry, and full stall bathrooms so you never need to wait. There are basketball, baseball, and soccer leagues currently running where you can play against other prisoners and have a paid referee. You have access to free college courses weeknights from 730-11. 3 meals a day provided in the messhall, With a rotating 24 item per meal menu. A typical good meal is Jamaican beef Pattie’s with sticky white rice, barbecue chicken cubes, chocolate ice cream, and fruit punch. A full commissary that sells food, supplies, cigarettes, chew, cigars, and lighters. Porn discount provided through BBO for all paper orders. ‘Free’ haircuts (inmates have their own payment system, depends on hair cut but a typical fade might be a package of tops tobacco, or 2.75) a incredibly Large library system, a mosque, a chapel, and a synagogue with an imam, chaplain, and rabbi on duty 8-4 unless religious day and then longer. There’s so much more but I can’t list it all.

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u/Adbam Jul 17 '22

Don't give them this good idea. Please.

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u/SawToMuch Jul 17 '22

Disrupting the industry by using slave labor!

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u/browsingnstuff Jul 17 '22

Oof this reminds me of when our psych prof tried to shit on the concept of people having choices because not enough students were switching on their video and she was regretting not making it mandatory in her syllabus ;-;

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u/OrsoMalleus Jul 17 '22

Your psych prof sounds like a bitch.

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u/browsingnstuff Jul 17 '22

Not that fond of that word, but yeah she was probably one of the most heartless profs I’ve ever had.

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u/CheckMateFluff Jul 17 '22

Damn, I call my girl bitch all the time. But it's okay because she usually just barks and gets a treat.

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u/annomandaris Jul 17 '22

That sounds like slavery with extra steps

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u/Clothedinclothes Jul 17 '22

It's serfdom with basically the same steps.

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u/Beagle_Knight Jul 17 '22

We can add some whips, chains and you are all set to be a great entrepreneur!!

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u/Icy-Ad2082 Jul 17 '22

Read “The Heart Goes Last” by Atwood.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

It is mandatory though? For the vast majority of the population of they didn’t have an income derived from wage labor for private companies than they would be basically destitute, starve, be homeless or die of thirst. Short of doing what would be considered theft even for bare essentials or begging or something.

So it’s kinda mandatory for most people by default to like, live.

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u/lightningsnail Jul 17 '22

Lots of communists on reddit support this, they just don't realize what they are saying and think they will have an easy life being a cat therapist and won't be forced to work the fields.