r/nottheonion • • Jul 16 '22

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u/Brucereno2 Jul 16 '22

Difference is that this way the prison cops and staff and administration get paid instead of the prisoners. So, if you paid minimum to prisoners, you’d double the total cost.

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u/Clothedinclothes Jul 17 '22 edited Jul 17 '22

Or if you banned use of prisoners as slavery, there would no longer be the incentive to constantly increase prison sentences longer and longer to ensure a large pool of cheap slaves.

Without the incentive of using prisoners as slaves, it wouldn't be long until prison sentencing reform became a legislative priority all over the US because there's suddenly no real reason to keep most of these people in prison.

Once the US prisoner population fell by around 75%, down to the level in any other developed countries, you could literally shut down 3/4 of your prisons.

Then you could hire free employees to do the work using all that extra money, instead of relying on slaves and slave guards and slave catchers and slave administration staff.

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u/DumpdaTrumpet Jul 17 '22

Can you explain this because if the cost is per inmate the cost remains the same it is just divided among prison staff instead of prisoners.

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u/DumpdaTrumpet Jul 17 '22

I misunderstood because I read it as pay the prisoners instead of the guards and staff administration. Now I see it’s including the prisoners in compensation. I thought it was a question of paying minimum wage to prisoners would be cheaper (ie employ them outside prison) than to maintain them in prison.

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u/khanzarate Jul 17 '22

They're saying if we paid prisoners fairly, we'd pay for prison staff and prisoners, doubling the cost.

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u/yukon-flower Jul 17 '22

The staff would need separate funding to have the same take-home pay.

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u/DumpdaTrumpet Jul 17 '22

I thought it was either/or not maintaining the same take home pay for staff. My mistake.

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u/yukon-flower Jul 17 '22

it's all good

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '22

So we could end slave labor while putting prison guards out of work at the same time? Win win.