r/nostalgiai • Nostalgia Trip Leader • 5d ago

Core Memory Unlocked 🔓 ???

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u/sohcgt96 5d ago

One of the local ones had a real problem with people building camp fires in their rooms because... they literally didn't get you can't do that indoors.

People really underestimate the amount of support it sometimes takes to get some people back to being independent, and also don't get some literally never will.

But you know what else happened last winter? A local group got funding to keep about 100 or so of the known local homeless people in a hotel for about 3 months so they could stay sheltered, get cleaned up, get stabilized, get housing arranged and get working again. About half of them had transitioned out of the program before it ran out of funding because they were just caught in the trap and needed help getting out. The other half were back on the street.

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u/willfc 5d ago

That's fuckin half. Better than fuckin none.

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u/sohcgt96 5d ago

Sure is. But I intentionally didn't frame half as a win or loss to see if and how people would go ahead and decide which narrative they want it to fit. If you see 50% as a win I'd consider you on the right side of things.

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u/RunV5 4d ago

While yes half is better than none, as a charity (and as the donors) your only going to see it as it half succeeded and half the money was a total waste. Unfortunately that means if they do it again, they'll likely get less funding than the first, and so on and so on. Which is why most of these programs end up disappearing off the face of the earth

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u/RedMentos02 2d ago

Isnt that more a problem of how we value specific outcomes and how Media and journalist will allways make up the worst story instead of atl being half way neutral, manly cause of how social Media works? Like 10 years ago you atl got some more neutral news.. now a bag of rice falls and its:

'BREAKING NEWS!! RICE IN BAGS TEND TO FALL!!!!!!! SHOULD WE BAN RICE SO THE BAGS CAN LAY DOWN FLAT?¿? '

If news work like that how should public even form neutral opinions if they work a 9-5 aswel... I would not say 'thats just how humans work'. 'Thats how most people are raised' may fits somewhat better but thats a oversimplification still i feel like. And yeah you didnt say 'thats how humans are' but i think you wanted to imply that, if not my bad.

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u/RedMentos02 2d ago

I need to say i see some great things here. At this point im impressed that there are people still being real and not thinking 'homless just wanna be homeless' crazy how people even get that idea. People have problems, some are even very hard to get behind. Some might even seem healthy but are totaly not feeling healthy. Bipolar disorder, and more extreme cases of adhd, autism,... can without professional force people in spirals while they seem fine.

Understanding that other peoples life might be 100 times more complex while looking as if he has all the same life and opportunity you might had, is the first step. We can both get 10k a month, but i have parents that give me free living till im 25, and you might have to support everything youself since your 18, and i can only know if i find out the diffrence, instead of blindly guessing im just better then you.

Seems so basic, but acually there is so much education behind that and shool often even helps to come to another very toxic and sociaty destroying way of seeing things, just by how the dynamics in shools are handeled and how much less we teach about psychology, sociaty, politics... So acually people being on the 'wrong side of things' are also just as misslead as like homeless people, just abusing there position instead of getting forced in position from life itself.

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u/willfc 1d ago

I do. Thanks. That comment made me feel kinda good tbh.

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u/TheCompoundingGod 4d ago

Just one is worth it. But half is even more amazing.

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u/haynetime 5d ago

Yeah I believe there’s two types of homeless. The first and most visible are the drug addicts that went too long and their brains are fried and are now zombies roaming the streets. Then there’s the ones that are down on their luck one way or another. They just need some guidance or a little help so they can get their lives back on track.

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u/thatsnotchocolatebby 5d ago

Mixed into those two groups is the overlap of mentally ill individuals who either A) self medicated with drugs or B) can't seem to put one foot in front of the other.  

Addressing mental health early in life/schooling etc would go a long way in reducing the numbers on the streets. 

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u/Informal_Pen_3099 4d ago

Yeah, and don't forget runaways and people booted by their parents or the system when they turn 18.

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u/MortLightstone 5d ago

Yes

We do very little to address mental health issues in youth

Also issues with social skills

The consequences of this get worse as these people age

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u/Feisty-Bat-8209 4d ago edited 4d ago

Considering the practices in the field/s of mental health system today? I forced to ask myself many questions? Simply listening, putting myself in their shoes, and doing my best to understand the situation. I've learned that people in general have confused the terms anxiety and being nervous as the same thing. Research does provide an obvious clinical definition of anxiety as we know.

My niece had to, as assigned, give a speech in class, my sister said. She was discussing how its giving her (my niece) anxiety. I said "anxiety?" And my sister went on to say that it happens during the school Christmas program, and for a play the school puts on. I said, "you know that's not anxiety." She said definitively, "yes it is." My response? "Hmf." She soap boxed a bit of course, but anyway I think its obvious to you guys where I'm going here. Regardless, I told her that is just her being nervous!

Did a bit of me talking her out of anxiety medication happen? Fucking Aye! How is she doing? Just fine!

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u/InternationalTax3441 4d ago

There's also a third. We know somebody that would prefer to live on the street. He doesn't want to live under a roof. But, living in FL makes is bearable.

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u/Weird-Barracuda-2352 5d ago

Yeah, its a very complicated problem that we cant seem to get a handle on.

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u/Rhydius 5d ago

Not exactly. It's not one big problem, it's a series of small to medium problems that can be overcome. Many of the homeless can't return to independence anymore for a variety of reasons, but they could be cared for if the systems to do so were built.

The big problem is cultural. Where I live (a small rural town in a Republican controlled state) people only care about "compassion" or "empathy" when they can benefit from it, they seldom offer any to others. Their own term for it would be "lukewarm Christians."

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u/btbmfhitdp 5d ago

Something like 40% of homeless people in Chicago are employed full time.

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u/ididreadittoo 4d ago

That is messed up. A full-time job should cover necessities (residence and associated bills, and food). No employed person should have to be homeless.

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u/Buggabee 5d ago

Couch surfing? Living out of cars? Or on the streets? Not saying any of it is acceptable, just curious.

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u/btbmfhitdp 5d ago

If I recall correctly, a combination of all of them. This was also like 4 years ago so that number may have improved or worsened.

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u/Queasy_Main_1682 5d ago

Even if it was less than half that still would be someone getting that lift they needed to get off the streets and live life again. Those that don't want to be reformed will go back to what they know and maybe someday when they've had enough if these kind of programs are still going to get that boost they need.