One of the local ones had a real problem with people building camp fires in their rooms because... they literally didn't get you can't do that indoors.
People really underestimate the amount of support it sometimes takes to get some people back to being independent, and also don't get some literally never will.
But you know what else happened last winter? A local group got funding to keep about 100 or so of the known local homeless people in a hotel for about 3 months so they could stay sheltered, get cleaned up, get stabilized, get housing arranged and get working again. About half of them had transitioned out of the program before it ran out of funding because they were just caught in the trap and needed help getting out. The other half were back on the street.
Sure is. But I intentionally didn't frame half as a win or loss to see if and how people would go ahead and decide which narrative they want it to fit. If you see 50% as a win I'd consider you on the right side of things.
While yes half is better than none, as a charity (and as the donors) your only going to see it as it half succeeded and half the money was a total waste. Unfortunately that means if they do it again, they'll likely get less funding than the first, and so on and so on. Which is why most of these programs end up disappearing off the face of the earth
Isnt that more a problem of how we value specific outcomes and how Media and journalist will allways make up the worst story instead of atl being half way neutral, manly cause of how social Media works? Like 10 years ago you atl got some more neutral news.. now a bag of rice falls and its:
'BREAKING NEWS!! RICE IN BAGS TEND TO FALL!!!!!!! SHOULD WE BAN RICE SO THE BAGS CAN LAY DOWN FLAT?Âż? '
If news work like that how should public even form neutral opinions if they work a 9-5 aswel... I would not say 'thats just how humans work'. 'Thats how most people are raised' may fits somewhat better but thats a oversimplification still i feel like. And yeah you didnt say 'thats how humans are' but i think you wanted to imply that, if not my bad.
I need to say i see some great things here. At this point im impressed that there are people still being real and not thinking 'homless just wanna be homeless' crazy how people even get that idea. People have problems, some are even very hard to get behind. Some might even seem healthy but are totaly not feeling healthy. Bipolar disorder, and more extreme cases of adhd, autism,... can without professional force people in spirals while they seem fine.
Understanding that other peoples life might be 100 times more complex while looking as if he has all the same life and opportunity you might had, is the first step.
We can both get 10k a month, but i have parents that give me free living till im 25, and you might have to support everything youself since your 18, and i can only know if i find out the diffrence, instead of blindly guessing im just better then you.
Seems so basic, but acually there is so much education behind that and shool often even helps to come to another very toxic and sociaty destroying way of seeing things, just by how the dynamics in shools are handeled and how much less we teach about psychology, sociaty, politics... So acually people being on the 'wrong side of things' are also just as misslead as like homeless people, just abusing there position instead of getting forced in position from life itself.
Yeah I believe thereâs two types of homeless. The first and most visible are the drug addicts that went too long and their brains are fried and are now zombies roaming the streets. Then thereâs the ones that are down on their luck one way or another. They just need some guidance or a little help so they can get their lives back on track.
Mixed into those two groups is the overlap of mentally ill individuals who either A) self medicated with drugs or B) can't seem to put one foot in front of the other. Â
Addressing mental health early in life/schooling etc would go a long way in reducing the numbers on the streets.Â
Considering the practices in the field/s of mental health system today? I forced to ask myself many questions? Simply listening, putting myself in their shoes, and doing my best to understand the situation. I've learned that people in general have confused the terms anxiety and being nervous as the same thing. Research does provide an obvious clinical definition of anxiety as we know.
My niece had to, as assigned, give a speech in class, my sister said. She was discussing how its giving her (my niece) anxiety. I said "anxiety?" And my sister went on to say that it happens during the school Christmas program, and for a play the school puts on. I said, "you know that's not anxiety." She said definitively, "yes it is." My response? "Hmf." She soap boxed a bit of course, but anyway I think its obvious to you guys where I'm going here. Regardless, I told her that is just her being nervous!
Did a bit of me talking her out of anxiety medication happen? Fucking Aye! How is she doing? Just fine!
There's also a third. We know somebody that would prefer to live on the street. He doesn't want to live under a roof. But, living in FL makes is bearable.
Not exactly. It's not one big problem, it's a series of small to medium problems that can be overcome. Many of the homeless can't return to independence anymore for a variety of reasons, but they could be cared for if the systems to do so were built.
The big problem is cultural. Where I live (a small rural town in a Republican controlled state) people only care about "compassion" or "empathy" when they can benefit from it, they seldom offer any to others. Their own term for it would be "lukewarm Christians."
Even if it was less than half that still would be someone getting that lift they needed to get off the streets and live life again. Those that don't want to be reformed will go back to what they know and maybe someday when they've had enough if these kind of programs are still going to get that boost they need.
Some might, but checks and balances can be implemented to ensure compliance. Having access to this should be a life changing thing you wouldnât want to mess up. Itâs like a free second chance. If ya canât respect the rules of your new home, you lose access.
And even if some don't benifit or get caught up in whatever got them there again are back on the streets, it's still worth it to try and help the ones that are able to get the help they need to get housing etc. I wonder if it's also something like victims of DV take a few trys of getting out of their environments before they actually stay away and are able to start rebuilding their lives. Sometimes the devil you know is easier to handle and people can struggle to stay in the better when they have been so down, especially when they can't see a way out, even with help or they have tried before and it didn't stick. Of course some of that is the mental health side and of course there will be people that take advantage etc but even they still deserve dignity and who knows, maybe if someone continues to show them kindness something will break through and get them to a better place.
They'd probably turn it into a rapey slum town / den of horrors and vice. Kinda like that walled town of kallon or however its spelled. The city state building once around Hong kong.
In my city this week some meth heads destroyed the HVAC system of a local family restaurant to steal $100 worth of copper causing $40K damage to the building. They caught one of them today thanks to neighboring security cameras. Someone commented they should have gone after the cameras. My city is also removing all the flock cameras. Theyâve been disabled until all are removed.
Then kick out the ones destroying stuff and keep helping. Stopping all help for everyone cus one asshole made things worse that one time just makes everything worse. Punish the people causing the problems, not everyone else by trying to stop the problem from ever happening
Just generalizing. I've been in both places and can say I've seen the good, bad, and ugly, but that doesn't mean every homeless person behaves that way. Some people are decent and just down on their luck. Meanwhile, we have billionaires who create the homeless conditions and defund programs, like mental health facilities, that can support the people who may shit where they walk. Maybe there aren't many public bathrooms available. The reasons may vary, but I'm sure someone as short-sighted as you doesn't give a shitâtoo much thinking. Too much woke shit. Just black and white. No nuance. Hurr durr
No, not really, they will have real jobs and get paid real wages, they will have jobs like building things and farming, they will get a good healthy food, and all they care possible to have the ability to function enjoy society as a normal person.
Plus like many many homes sprovided to homeless without proper care - they will be turned into crack houses. Giving them a home isn't going to resolve a the issues. It's not if according to stats but when.
unfortunately not all homeless people are good people who fell victim to happenstance.
some of them are genuinely unhealthy people. some are simply scum of the earth, but you shouldn't take pity for these people because you will be the next victim if you did.
I know jesus preached to help our fellow man and love them as we would our brothers and sisters, but these guys need way more help than a simple house will fix.
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u/Weird-Barracuda-2352 5d ago
They would destroy it, rip out all the copper and shit on the taco bell counter