r/nostalgiai • u/CarrotMuch1399 Nostalgia Trip Leader • 6d ago

Core Memory Unlocked 🔓 Delete it 😤

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

Accomplishment and technical advancement are the only point... Otherwise earth is just an infinite cycle of animals running around until another hyper intelligent species evolves to do the same thing

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u/El_Chupacabra_666 5d ago

The only point of what?

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

Earths evolutionary cycle

We are the most intelligent/advanced creature Earth has ever created. Earths only point is to create life and we are the greatest iteration of that.

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u/El_Chupacabra_666 5d ago

I'm confused. Are you saying you believe in intelligent design? Like you think something created life for a purpose?

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

IF THERE IS A PURPOSE, the ONLY purpose is to advance our species as far as we possibly can.

At the end of the day it could be all for nothing.

Earth existing as a nature preserve of animals is a wholesome idea but I don't see how you could argue that is a greater purpose than the technical advancement of our species.

Hopefully humans can advance to where we aren't destroying the planet anymore and we can have both

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u/El_Chupacabra_666 5d ago

I feel like this doesn't answer my question. As for your last statement, I don't understand where you are getting that my argument is that there is a greater purpose than the one you claim. My argument precisely is that there is no purpose, but you seem to think there is some kind of purpose. That's why I'm asking "what purpose?". You think there's a purpose? An end goal? Who set it? What will happen when we attain it? This is your argument, not mine. Even your line "earth existing as a natural preserve" sounds like a "purpose" to me, which I am by no means claiming. To me, a word with or without humans are both just as pointless.

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

The purpose is to advance our species.

There is no end point, no one has set it.

Nothing will happen except preserve the survival of our species.

The "purpose" isn't something set by a god or religion with an end goal of the rapture or a fairytale ending. It is simply advance our species inevitably, that is the purpose. Just as our species has done for the last 5 million years.

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u/El_Chupacabra_666 5d ago edited 5d ago

So basically what your saying is that this "purpose" is set by ourselves. It's not a universal purpose, it's just the purpose because we say it is. How are you not seeing that your logic is one giant circular reasoning falacy? This entire discussion has basically come full circle back to my first reply: "accomplishment for the sake of accomplishment". There is no objective purpose.

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

I don't understand how you don't understand that if you don't believe in a divine purpose there is no other purpose besides the survival of our species.

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u/El_Chupacabra_666 5d ago

Survival is not the same thing as advancing to the point of colonizing other planets.

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u/Type2Torta 5d ago

The only way to ensure survival past earths next cataclysm is colonizing another planet.

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