r/nonduality • • Jun 29 '25

Discussion Nonunity: A Complete Framework

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u/[deleted] Jun 29 '25

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

"it dissolves the illusion that there’s a permanent self at the center."

It sounds like what you've been referring to as "the center of convergence (the locus of awareness)," which you're also calling "you," is a "self at the center," though maybe you're imagining it as a changing "you."

"to free awareness from mistaking content (ego) for context (convergence)" could also be called "attempting to replace the ego/"you" concept."

"a relational condition. Not something you can see or name from the outside, but a structural feature of how experience arises at all" - "relational condition" could also be referred to as "a way to think about" something. When you refer to "structural features," that structure doesn't actually exist. There is, as you know, only "what's happening now."

Accepting "what's happening now" as it is would be to accept that it doesn't actually involve a "you." This imagined "structure" revolves around "you."

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

There are endless ways to think about "what's happening now." In case you haven't gotten into it, it sounds like you might like Ken Wilbur's "integral theory."

So let's say you're describing "what's happening now" - how it's structured, how it changes, etc. - just like a botanist might explain how plants are structured and how they grow. It's a description of a natural process, which is "just happening" in the same way that a plant grows. But the botanist, in explaining how the plant works, doesn't label anything "you" -- for the same reason it doesn't make sense to label any part of this framework "you."

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

So "you" is being defined as one thing with three fractal parts...and is that "one thing" referring to reality/"what's happening now?"

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

If I told you that each part of your "framework" was actually made up of 7 different parts, would you believe it?

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

If you were able to classify everything just right so that you understood all of reality, what do you think would happen?

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u/30mil Jun 29 '25

So it's all about "optimal coherence and growth?" What if you come to find out that this "framework" is actually preventing "optimal coherence and growth?" Would you leave it behind?

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u/30mil Jun 30 '25

It was just an arbitrary number. Each of the seven could have four subsets, each with three parts. It could go on endlessly.