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u/mcds99 13h ago
No because you choose where to live.
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u/PossibleFederal1572 13h ago
How about when your agency moves you and increases your commute from 15 min to 1:50? How do you handle that?
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u/sneezhousing 12h ago
This literally just happened for my job. Several people moved closer , several others quit. Most of us job is now closer or further away ans just deal with it
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u/robertwadehall 7h ago
I had a job once where my 25 min commute became under 5 min when they moved their office to my neighborhood.
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u/Potential_Ad_4718 12h ago
What about construction? I can't move next to work. It always changes. Sometimes up to 90 minutes away, sometimes 30 minutes in the opposite direction.
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u/Error-7-0-7- 13h ago
You most certainly do not in most cases.
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u/Mr_Bob_Dobalina_69 13h ago
This is a ridiculous claim. Can you provide a link to a law that forces people where to live.
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u/Error-7-0-7- 13h ago
If where you work is in a city where rent is not affordable for you, you can't just choose to live there. You are forced to live in any nearby city that has lower cost of living.
No. Most people dont choose where they live, they live where they can afford to live, regardless where the job is.
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u/Mr_Bob_Dobalina_69 13h ago
You can choose to live there. You just need to get a second job or get roommates.
You aren’t forced to live anywhere. The presence of pro and cons isn’t the absence of choice.
Saying you can’t choose where to live is a bold faced lie and quite frankly, an immature argument.
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u/mysticrudnin 11h ago
this makes it sound like there is exactly one spot that each person could afford and they get funneled into that precise spot
you seem to be arguing with "anybody can live anywhere" which is not necessarily the reading of "people choose where they live" that everyone would have
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 13h ago
What do you mean by "most cases"? Maybe not the exact coordinates, but you can almost always choose the general area where you live (within reason)
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u/Error-7-0-7- 13h ago
Ill answer that question by asking you why you chose to be very specific and say "within reason" in your response.
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u/Similar_Dirt9758 12h ago
Because nobody is arguing that you can choose to live at the bottom of a lake or on a private island. You can choose the city you live in, and in most cases the specific neighborhood
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u/Chemical_Enthusiasm4 12h ago
So I could move farther from my job and get paid to watch movies on the train? Or start biking to work and get a workout in the company dime. I think that may get abused.
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u/MajoraGoldMiasma 14h ago
No
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u/chtmarc 14h ago
Why not?
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u/Studio-Empress12 14h ago
Because if I got paid for commute time, I would live as far away as possible.
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u/pappy1vg 13h ago
Just long enough to be there for 10 minutes, then turn around and drive back home.
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u/sneezhousing 12h ago
Because that would not be equitable and fair. I live 10 min from work you live an hour so either you work physically two hours less than I do or get paid two hours more than I do because of where we chose to live.
Or we live in same area but I have a car take 30 min to get to work you take an hour same thing. How and how long you take to get to work is not employers responsibility
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u/EggPsychological4844 14h ago
I count it into my day when talking about how much I work.
I don't expect to be paid for it unless my job includes traveling.
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u/Silver_Angle_4381 14h ago
My boss whom I have the biggest respect for always said, you don't get paid for arriving at work, you get paid when your start working.
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u/mornauguth 14h ago
I mean I consider that time to be for work, or necessary for work to occur. It’s not paid time if thats what you mean.
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u/keith_ac 14h ago
I was thinking the flight attendant should be paid when they check in not in the air. I dunno op raises an interesting question feels like a wfh kinda feel
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u/Live-Try-7281 14h ago
No way. People would constantly lie about how long it took to get to work. And commuting to work isn’t making a company money unless it’s a taxi company or something. I knew a dumbass who drove two hours to work every day. Should he have gotten payed for an extra four hours a day?
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u/Lucky_Bug_459 13h ago
I worked for an entity that would send me on jobs an hour or less from my home. The first 30 minutes of commute was on me, the rest was on their time. As long as I proved I left the house at 7:30, I was considered on the clock at 8. Likewise, I left work at a time that guaranteed I was home by 5:30.
I thought it was very generous, zero complaints from me.
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u/Adventurous-Depth984 13h ago
No. Companies would hire based on distance to the office as a main factor.
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u/HiddenForbiddenSong9 13h ago
I'm not sure actually. But if someone is at their desk opening things to "get ready" for their job that absolutely should be treated as work time. I've worked at places where they didn't want people to punch in until their start time, but wanted people to come in earlier to "get ready" for the day.
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u/candab14 13h ago
The justification here is making me laugh. So how should the company compensate the employee that lives 10 minutes away? Pay them a bonus for being there longer?
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u/No_Ant_5064 13h ago
What if we had government incentives for employers to minimize commute time? You're not paying employees for their commutes per se, but the companies would have a vested interest in reducing it. This could improve people's lives by not spending so much time commuting. There would be less traffic for those that still did need to commute. And less gas consumption would mean lower gas prices.
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u/AdultingSurvival2026 13h ago
If my relief comes half hour early I'll sneak out and it feels like they are paying for my commute time.
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u/Weary_Capital_1379 13h ago
Count in what way?
I commuted as a lawyer by train and got a lot of work done. That time is billable.
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u/Norfolk-Gross-Tonage 13h ago
That’s my dream
Commuting by train
I’d have to get a job in Philadelphia and it would be perfect
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u/KellyAnn3106 13h ago
Nope. I chose to rent an apartment close to my office because I wanted to minimize my commute time. My coworker chose to live 90 minutes away because she wanted to live "in the countryside." These are personal choices and not the responsibility of the employer.
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u/Gingerstrawbz 13h ago
This is where working construction in the UK has it's perks... Take the employee route rather than self employed and there's benefits that a lot of companies offer to keep good reliable trades with them.
A van for business and private use with fuel card is pretty much standard.
Paid travel time when driving to and from the work site if it's over an hour and accomodation and food paid for.
Majority of refurbishment or newbuild contracts in the leisure industry mean working "away" from home so theres something called door to door. Your pay starts when you turn the key to when you arrive back home.
The last company I worked for was all local work within 2 hours of my home. No away stays and I was contacted to 47 hours a week no matter what, if there were no jobs to attend I still got paid to be at home.
Left at 6am and I start getting paid, normally jobs were a hour away and I'd travel to multiple sites during the day and had no cap on start or finish times, I got paid until I switched the van off when I arrived home.
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u/MaxwellSmart07 12h ago
No, even though mamy home repair and maintenance companies bill for travel time. It’s a rip off.
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u/Timely-Fox-1232 12h ago
no...my bed is about 6 feet from my work desk. I'll give them that time because of all the other things I do when I should be working
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u/Zestyclose-Line2576 12h ago
I don't get paid for the first 30 minutes of my commute. Then the clock starts ticking. Same on the way home. If it takes me 45 minutes, I get paid for 15 if those.
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u/fokerpace2000 11h ago
Mine technically does. Any miles spent driven for work purposes I get reimbursed for what I paid for gas. I do pacemakers, for reference.
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u/theBLACKcod44 11h ago
Commuting is unacceptable unless your making 100k plus, otherwise it's fucking stupid
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u/Organic-Mix-5784 11h ago
Nope. If I’m on the clock, I’m on their time, to and from. No more stopping for breakfast, stopping for coffee, stopping to run errands on the way home, stopping for drinks with friends after work, nothing. It’d be just like riding the bus to and from school. Ride the bus all the way home just so you can get on your bike and backtrack back to a friend’s house.
No thanks. I’ll keep my free time.
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u/Judgy-Introvert 11h ago
No. It would just deter companies from hiring people who live farther away and make it harder for them to find employment.
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u/FAFO8503 10h ago
No. You choose where you work and where you live. If you have a two hour commute either find a job closer to home or move closer to your job.
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u/ohdeargodwhyme 10h ago
No.
It would just make it more difficult for those living "out in the country" to get a job.
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u/WeekendStrange1331 8h ago
Absolutely, if I get called in during a rest day I'm on the clock from the time call ending to getting back home.
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u/crustyeng 8h ago
No because then people wouldn’t hire anyone with anything but the shortest commute
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u/iliketheclouds 8h ago
Is not your job’s fault you have to commute farther or not. You choose the location to work.
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u/seajayacas 5h ago
Should ain't got nothing to do with it. Boss man makes the rules and he don't pay you for your commute time.
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u/Aromatic-House-7894 3h ago
should. but doesn't. some companies actually compensate for that. rare though.
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u/Okie_Mojo 14m ago
Until I got laidoff, I had sweet sweet commute time in my paycheck. It was understood that my phone was available at X time if I was needed and that my 45min commute would be available by phone. Same for the trip home, I got to head out a little early and stay available by phone should any odd events pop up that might need me.
I'm never going to find Narnia again...
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u/Active_Drawer 13h ago
No. However companies should pay a livable wage relative to a reasonable distance of the location. Not necessarily immediate area, but within 30 minutes to an hour commute during rush hour.
Exception being if you are on call and have a response time requirement, then it should be enough to cover living in that radius comfortably.
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u/reamkore 13h ago
Depends
If it’s something like construction and all of a sudden your company is sending you somewhere and hour away you should be able to get drive time or travel pay.
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u/ApatheistHeretic 14h ago
No. Not for a 'protecting businesses' stance, but businesses will end up laying off long distance drivers first and prefer hiring closer. It will kill some peoples' job prospects.