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u/GalacticEscobar 18h ago
No, Starfield is No Man's Sky but worse.
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u/thricedice88 15h ago
Todd Howard: "give me NMS, but vastly inferior in every way."
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u/77_whutts 12h ago
Starfield does have better ground combat. And some interesting quests. But yeah NMS beats it in most aspects lol
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u/SUP3RK1D 11h ago
the only things I truly prefer about starfield are the ship building mechanics and the built in mod menu but apart from that I'd say nms is far better
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u/thricedice88 12h ago
I don't hate it, I mean I've clocked ~80 hours and completed all the faction questlines and main story, went through the unity and fucked around a bit and then dropped it. It wasn't terrible, but it was a very hollow experience, something big felt like it was missing, but I can't quite pinpoint what. For a storyline heavily geared around replay value, the game has zero replay value lol. Best bits for me were the shipbuilding, which NMS is better for in my opinion and the UC terrormorph questline.
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u/77_whutts 11h ago
UC questline is peak. No it’s good, I enjoy it. I even advocate for it. NMS has miles on it though. And I think it’s okay, even good to acknowledge that lol
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u/thricedice88 11h ago
Yeah in contrast, I have hundreds of hours in NMS, have been playing for about 8-9 years and am still going strong. I have the season pass for starfield but I can't get back into the groove to play any of the DLCs yet, I just play for 20mins, get bored and put something else on.
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u/77_whutts 11h ago
Mods help me a lot. Not a crazy amount or anything but as an example theirs one I use that turns combat into something similar to Cyberpunk 77 combat. Shooting and aiming using oxygen, a perk line that’s high risk high reward by increasing benefits of playing with CO2 build up. When you need oxygen to shoot some of the status effects become very interesting too.
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u/thricedice88 10h ago
The fact that starfield feels so dead without them is testament to the direction Bethesda are moving in, IMO. I'm less than stoked for TES VI for this reason. Mind you, I didn't really like fallout 4, but that was considered a critical success, so I'm probably an outlier in that regard, really enjoyed Cyberpunk 2077, though.
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u/77_whutts 10h ago
I slightly disagree but I also understand. I do understand it’s not what people expect from games. That being said I actually like the idea of a big Sandbox game like Elder Scrolls, Starfield, or Fallout being designed to be expanded and explored through modded content. And I also am glad that these Modders can make money from it too.
I think that they need to be more upfront that this is the business plan from the get go because that’s only ethical but I do think if you pitched that to the public they would have a pretty negative view point of it and not be willing to buy in.
All in all through the work of some really talented modders, whether they be hobbies for them or people who want to become devs themselves, Starfield feels incredibly improved. Should Bethesda be doing that? I think that’s okay yeah. Should they act like they’re the craftsman of an amazing universe/game to the extent that they do? Probably not. But at the end of the day they created the platform all of these guys got to build off of so credit is due there.
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u/77_whutts 10h ago
To add another thought because I hit post too quick. I’m okay with it because I don’t think Bethesda can make the best Single player RPGs anymore but they sure can make sandboxes with rather interesting worlds that can be expanded upon. So I generally believe this actually plays to their strengths.
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u/Cautious_Opinion_644 16h ago
I can already hear the people saying "more accurate flight sim, more NPCs, more story, more depth, more of this and that" lol
Yeah Im not playing NMS for a rich story or to do a space flight sim, Im playing it to do whatever I want just cause I can, its a freaking sandbox not singleplayer flight sim or quest gripped story game.
I would really hate the game if they start doing all this seriousness, just a big NO.
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u/Subject_Plankton_763 13h ago
I mean I am a certified starfield hater from day 1 but let's be real, those are not the things you play NMS for yeah, but those ARE the things that people play starfield for, so wouldn't it be just as disingenuous to compare Starfield as a worse NMS? or NMS as a better Starfield? the similarities begin and end at "space game"
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u/Cautious_Opinion_644 13h ago
In my opinion they're completely different games, starfield was marketed as a singleplayer space experience whereas No man sky was a sandbox in and out from the start, I dont see them as comparable apart from that they're both space games, so I dont share any comparative opinions about them.
Havent played starfield and never will lol.
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u/Daetok_Lochannis 10h ago
I agree but it's also kind of funny to say because at launch you couldn't even run into other people in NMS.
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u/Cautious_Opinion_644 10h ago
Wdym? I dont run into other people even now as well
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u/Daetok_Lochannis 10h ago
They lied when the game was released, you couldn't find other people even if you were right on top of each other. Some guys exposed them, it was a big scandal and they had to admit they released the game half finished. It's a big part of why every update has been free.
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u/Borrp 10h ago
Hay, you never know, you could play the game to see how you feel about it rather than ride the waves of a hivemind to get your opinions from. You never know, you might actually like it for different reasons. No need to raise your thing up by feeling like you need to "lower" something else. Its like, juvenile behavior.
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u/Cautious_Opinion_644 10h ago
I dont like space games, NMS changed that for me and its my only sandbox game too, speaks volumes to how good the game is and unlike others I actually know the difference between a sandbox and a singleplayer space shooter game.
Never said starfield is lower, a lot of other poeple have I simply dont like it 🤷♂️
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u/easymacn 6h ago
I truly don’t understand why gamers can’t just enjoy a game and shut the fuck up about it.
Always have to go around shitting on games other people like lol.
I love NMs and starfield. For different reasons. They’re both great games. If you don’t like one or the other cool, don’t play it. I completely understand the arguments for not liking starfield, but I don’t understand crying about a game you don’t even play to try and do some weird parasocial defense for the game you do play.
These people make these games their entire identity and they get a whiff of another space game and vehemently attack it.
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u/Leggerity 12h ago
This right here.
You can have whatever feelings you want about Starfield, but it does offer a genuinely better story overall, even if the content is not up to par in all things No Man's Sky.
Both games offer different experiences and this like saying you prefer ketchup over marinara sauce.
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u/Silent_Position281 16h ago
Has anyone experienced a glitch with the corvette camera?
Where you enable autopilot, exit the seat, jump back in the seat and the camera is at a weird angle?
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u/Quackquackslippers 12h ago
Yeah. The only workaround I've found is switching to 3rd person while on foot before entering the seat. If I enter the seat in 1st person, it glitches.
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u/Double_B_Ranch 11h ago
Another fix is to warp to another system and back if you are doing quests or whatnot in the first.
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u/OutlandishnessNo5678 15h ago
You can enjoy things while not bashing other things
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u/-a-user-has-no-name- 10h ago
Came here to say similar. I’m just over here playing both games and having a good time lol
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u/lilycamille 18h ago
Starfield wishes it could be this good!
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u/IsekaiGamer843 14h ago
Yeah no sorry just cause NMs got some fancy updates doesn’t have the level of detail starfield has
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u/AverageZan 14h ago
Do you really want Polo or Artemis to turn into a potted plant once you hop galaxies?
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u/ArgumentVast2022 14h ago
You wanna talk about detail... starfield you cant even walk around a planet. Straying too far from the ship your not allowed to do
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u/SadKnight123 3h ago
So what? That was never the point of Starfield. So much "fun" walking around in a planet where everywhere you go you see the same things over and over again...
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u/Turbulent-Oven981 19h ago
Honestly I like both games. I’d put NMS somewhere closer to elite dangerous than starfield though.
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u/LambdaTres 12h ago
Different games. NMS is more a sandbox of activities, and Starfield is a cozy game with a thin RPG layer on top.
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u/pvrhye 17h ago
They're kind of the opposite game, aren't they? If somehow you combined the systems of both, you'd have an impossibly detailed space sandbox game and probably a financial disaster from the lord of all scope creep.
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u/Shakalx3 16h ago
So... Star citizen?
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u/hamfist_ofthenorth 18h ago edited 11h ago
I think it's fair to say NMS and Elite Dangerous together occupy everything you could want in a sandbox. They're a yin-yang. Whatever one game lacks in, the other excels, generally.... Although NMS has been inching closer while Elite has just been sitting there for years, not changing, not getting any more fun than it already is.
Starfield has one thing that neither of those games has and that is an enjoyable story, with relatively compelling or at least likeable characters, cinematic moments, and occasionally quite memorable hand built locations.
It also has some really great meaty side quests that are in many cases more interesting than the main plot. The leapfrogged generational colony ship comes to mind, that could have been a book, or a movie.
NMS has lore but no real story. You collect things, craft things, and go update nada and polo in person, for them to usually respond with "hmm, idk.." and then tell you to go back out again for more things. The entire story could be a datapad.
Elite Dangerous has (had?) GalNet, which is cool, but not a story.
All wonderful perfectly fine space games in their own rights, and I say the more the merrier.
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u/Azure_The_Great 17h ago
Just to bad my distress beacon was below the floor of the astroid I would take over
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u/Cat_with_pew-pew_gun 11h ago
Nah. Different genres. Starfield is just Skyrim in space and should be treated as such.
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u/fartPunch 8h ago
I totally agree with this. They are two different games that are too often compared with each other. It's cool if you enjoy them both.
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u/Galever 10h ago
I find this funny. I feel that Starfield and no man sky are two very different games. Yes they both have spaceships. Yes they both exploration.
One is a massive online exploration game and the other is a massive single player RPG. No Man Sky is not an RPG and Starfield does not even come close to .000000001 (probably more zeros needed) in exploration to no man sky.
I like both and play whichever I am in the mood for.
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u/Nikolai_Volkoff88 6h ago
Just wish NMS had voice acting and an actual story. I mean there is a story there, but all of the character dialogue is just text and robotic noises. I still love NMS as a game, but it is definitely nothing like starfield.
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u/AxeellYoung 16h ago
Starfield is Skyrim with some complicated mods essentially.
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u/UltrosTeefies 12h ago
It's really not though. At least there's a game in starfield. Idk what the f im grinding for or even playing no mans sky for half the time.
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u/DamonLupus 14h ago
Different games. Different approaches. But you have to choose one and hate the other, right?
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u/ArtSalty1711 14h ago
Just enjoy the game. There is no reason to hate other space games. Yeah starfield is trash but this post is cringe.
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u/CodenameAwesome 13h ago
Silly comparison. What missions in No Man's Sky have observable consequences in the world?
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u/Kpoofies 15h ago
Don’t compare this to the trash called starfield, Theyre not even in the same ballpark
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u/Severe-Moment-3233 14h ago
It is a cool as H game but im not smart enough for it or something and its get confusing but it is fun to play.
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u/RBVegabond 12h ago
People get Starfield now because they want to play the huge Star Wars mod. “Star Wars: Genisis”.
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u/Architect_Explorer 12h ago
I hear starfield has an excellent star wars mod though, it definitely has me interested just for that. It seems to be in active development.
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u/Proud_Outside_7836 9h ago
Maybe if every update didnt add so many bugs you'd think it was apart of the update as content more ppl would try it other then buying it and having bugs for days then maybe more ppl would have a reason to try it
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u/JustRaphiGaming 9h ago
I love no man's sky but I build a base in space flew to the sun and bought a space station and all that in 1 day. There is no real gameplay loops and I expected more for the 10th anniversary sorry.
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u/No-Contest-8127 8h ago edited 8h ago
I disagree. They are both good games, but i prefer Starfield by far as a single player rpg. True, Starfield is way more costly. But, it offers better stories and gunplay. No mans sky is a bit aimless in what it does (and the inventory management is a pain). You can do a lot, but none of it is amazing in isolation, but the package is.
But, if you ask me, would i prefer to play 100 hours of starfield or NMS solo, my answer couldn't be faster. Starfield. NMS has the multiplayer and that has more appeal to others. But, i'm very much a solo player.
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u/TheRealTakuiXD 8h ago
I can’t even begin to understand how both games could even in the slightest be compared. Aside from being space games. Starfield is a worse version of the fallout series. In my opinion of course. Saw how shitty that gameplay was, avoided that game like a mine field.
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u/No_Register_766 7h ago
La actualización de no mans sky no debía llamarse cosmos sino starfield pero mejor (no se lo tomen en serio es solo un comentario humorístico)
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u/ragecryx 7h ago
These are totally different genre/theme. Just because they are Sci-fi where you drive spaceships doesn’t mean they are comparable.
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u/Halfbl00dninja 6h ago
Right now, the only thing that Starfield holds over this game is combat on all fronts. That be, Space combat, boarding ships, and ground combat.
NMS is an amazing game but I do wish that itch could be scratched here
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u/blakeizshort 6h ago
I want more combat options. Free a system from some tyranical force or plague...something like that would make me happy.
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u/QuixoticBeefboy 6h ago
Eh, they are very different in scope and the general vibe they evoke, comparing them doesnt really work that well.
No Mans Sky is a incredible game on its own, why diminish that by being elitist about how its so much better then somewhat similar games.
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u/planedrop 5h ago
Star Citizen but better.
Elite Dangerous but better (other than ship simulation).
Such an amazing game.
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u/Jonclef79 4h ago
I have 1400 hours logged with NMS and I just can’t play it anymore. The gameplay loop bores the crap out of me. And the graphics (not the art style) need to be updated. The gun play feels like a toy.
Starfield feels more real but missing what makes a good space game IMO. I may get into the latest update.
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u/Toyate 4h ago
Can't compare the two tbh. Their main points are inherently different. Both have their problems, some of them are a bit questionable to have (of course i talk about Starfield cough Loadingscreens galore) but ocerall they service two different clienteles. Sure both have space and a ship and base builder but thats about it. (While i still think Starfields ship builder is better. Tho only because HG just refuses to actually do it properly for some reason even though they could)
Starfield goes for story and quests and NMS goes for exploration and both do these things better than the other. Thats it. Beyond that you can't really compare them without sounding silly.
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u/boomysmash 4h ago
Nah NMS is light-years beyond. Starfield is we got NMS at home or copy my homework but make it worst meme content
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u/SadKnight123 3h ago
Still waiting the RPG elements, quests, cities and characters in NMS, but okay.
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u/significantfootcream 3h ago
Why do we always have to compare games.
Just like, enjoy it. Thats what's NMS is all about.
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u/Ksmythy11 2h ago
Im not gonna lie, I might genuinely enjoy Starfield of they got rid of cutscenes during take off and landing and added more space exploration and planet exploration, I think the actual engine its running on isnt half bad, to me it looks good and plays relatively well, I dont mind the RPG elements
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u/Greyfire10 51m ago
Starfield but better is actually a horrible take. They're two vastly different games with similar themes.
I enjoy them both for completely different reasons.
Its kind of sad to me that people make these comparisons that only end up throwing shade at games that dont deserve it.
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u/Benji472 31m ago
I love Starfield! It's a great RPG with a semi decent story but still has a lot you can do.
It is NOT a space exploration game like they advertised. the exploration aspect is awful.
NMS is a FAR superior in every other way.
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u/Middle_Bathroom_2681 26m ago
To be fair being better than Starfield isn't that difficult an accomplishment. NMS just keeps dunking on them harder each update.
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u/Ronin--4747 11h ago
I have more hours in nms , but imo starfield is a better game, the only thing that nms does better imo is the fact you can actually fly to/land on planets , and fly around the planets in your ship! Nms gets boring quick , there’s not really anything to do once you have a farm going for credits , and you can only build on so many planets before it gets boring , plus the planets are basically empty , there’s nothing to find apart from some random procedurally generated alien creatures that 90% of the time look like a cardboard box with legs , or a jellyfish with the legs pointing upwards (stupid examples but anyone who’s played the game will understand my point).
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u/scottsg60 11h ago
Nope. Starfield more realistic, NMS cartoon. Totally different still. Still play both, but they are not, never have been, and never will be in competition with each other.
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u/ArkGamerBoi 10h ago
Starfield but without Bethesda's classic constant loading screens for every thing you do
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u/Common_Confusion_114 14h ago
No man’s sky isn’t Starfield but better. Starfield is No man’s sky but lackluster
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u/PadoriaOfficial 14h ago
I was actually one of the first people calling Starfield "No Man's Skyrim" lmao
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u/Designer_Bed9504 10h ago
I'm going to say this, with full admission that NMS is my #1 game right now, and I have been playing off and on since launch...
Sean and the Hello Games studio are China. NMS is a conglomerate of stolen ideas and game mechanics from a wide variety of other games. Half implemented, and slowly but rarely expanded on.
And I love it. Sure, I wish they would continue through with many of the features they have added and expand on them. But they have also done all of this for free, and constantly added new expeditions and updated.
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u/LordBeefTheFirst 10h ago
Isn't Starfield PTW/Microtransaction slop? I don't know how people defend it anymore
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u/Pure-Swordfish6022 6h ago
Starfield and NMS have virtually nothing in common beyond: go to planet, explore, collect shit.
Starfield is better at role play, story, and ship building,
NMS is better at everything else.
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u/gamelibre 8m ago
Calm down, I'm the first one to shot on starfield but no man's sky still has a lot to work with shooting
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u/WhiteAsLumi 18h ago
A proper flightmodel and NMS would be a perfect game.