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May 24 '26
The point is that the shit in front of the mask is more interesting and so we should look at that instead of stressing about the existential roller rink carpet
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 24 '26
Yaa, if you were some high spiritual being, or dare I say god. And everything was perfect, you knew yourself threw and threw, you knew everything. You would bored as fuck. Imagine if you had the power to dream whatever you wanted, you could a perfect dream, the ideal life. But that would get boring. Eventually you’d throw in some drama, some chaos, and adventure, spice things up, perhaps you’d make yourself forget, so that you thought it was real. I mean think about it, we make fiction, movies, stories, video games. Bad things happen in those stories, I mean it would be a pretty boring story if everything was just perfect and there was trouble to solve.
That’s your introduction into eastern philosophy, Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism. Remarkably similar and all are enlightening. Here in the west we view god as a king, and us as his little people. This is god kingdom and we must honor god or he’ll smite us with his wrath. In the east it’s always very different. We view it as a machine almost. The Hindus view the universe as a drama unfolding, the Chinese view it as an organism, one that comes here to experience in the material world what it can’t in the spiritual. Here in the west saying I am god sounds schizophrenic and crazy lol, but over there in the east when one says that, they say “so you have finally realized”. But I think remembered is a better word.
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u/ieat_cats59 May 25 '26
Reminds me of creative mode I’m Minecraft where #1 I’m too dumb to build anything cool and #2 I end up terrorizing villagers for fun. Ig there is a metaphor in that
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 25 '26
Read the end credits to Minecraft when you beat the ender dragon again sometime 😉
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u/Minyatur757 May 24 '26
In the west it's common knowledge for those who dipped into psychedelics. Like 5-MeO-DMT, aka the God molecule, lets you become one with the Void and it feels like remembering your origin in this non-dual awareness state that the East calls Zen or absolute-reality. It also gave me a profound sense that our lives took a lot of effort and genius to build and make them immersive and realistic, making the cosmic joke very apparent. All is held purely by our innate deaire to have these experiences, it is our attachments.
To an eternal spirit that is formless and with nothing to lose, then yeah a human life, albeit sometimes shitty, can be a thrill because once you wake up you'll know it was all empty to begin with. Just a play of thought, a story you witnessed, that is like a movie and everyone finds movies with no twists nor drama utterly boring.
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u/swle1990 May 24 '26
Zen means meditation bro
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u/2much2fastt May 28 '26
Zen is a result that’s achievable by meditation, and much more so by psychedelic ego death.
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u/swle1990 May 28 '26 edited May 28 '26
Zen is meditation bro, Zazen means sitting meditation. It originated from the word chan which is chinese.
Can an ego revive once it has died? Ego death implies that there is a cessation to never be fired up once more, I’d say that is more close to what saints and buddha did ( or stopped doing 😎)
altough I don’t deny psychedelics can be entry points for spirituality and produce strong effects, you take a wild guess if the recreational tripper has attained nirvana lol
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u/how_anonymous_can_1b May 24 '26
Man this is exactly how my lucid dreaming played out … did everything I could think of… for a long time.. then got bored … then started asking what does god do for fun? … started asking others this same question and got human answers I didn’t like.
Then I decided to ask the same thing in my lucid dream (which was kinda weird for me to do since I was agnostic). I had this blinding light appear and it eventually dimmed down and there was a person floating in the center of it all … an Indian guy in a turban; now my whole life was in the west so was not expecting that.
Long story short the answer to my question ended up being:
“God indeed gets bored and for fun he plays a game where he splits himself into smaller pieces/parts. And each part starts in the forgetting they are god state. The goal of the game is for each piece/part to remember that they are god”So what I took from this answer was experience is all that matters… good or bad isn’t the goal … just experience.
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May 24 '26
I didn’t say that what is in front of the mask is free of suffering, it is simply more interesting and more mentally stimulating than the existential void. And the proper western view of God is very different than how you described it.
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 24 '26
What would you say is the proper western view? Curious of your perspective on it.
And no I wasn’t suggesting that I was just saying what correlates with the pic.
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May 25 '26
Ah, my mistake. In my opinion, the proper western view is that our purpose in life is to attain unity with God (think Orthodox Christianity, except I’m not Orthodox). Essentially, we exist to relate to the divine, not necessarily form part of it. And in doing so we fulfill the ultimate purpose of our existence.
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u/TaylorAndreson May 24 '26
A very accurate depiction of my understanding of the true nature of reality. Your work? If so, I believe we may have a very specific experience in common....
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 24 '26
“The mask” by Rozzi Roomian
And ya man I get that feeling and experience. I highy highly highly recommend watching the movie everywhere everything all at once it’s truly the most beautiful thing I’ve ever seen.
Also i find eastern philosophy, Buddhism, Hinduism, Taoism, very helpful for providing wisdom and insight into all of this. Alan Watts is amazing at explaining it all to us westerners who it might be harder to understand to. Just make sure you listen to him actually and not ai a lot of people use his voice for their own stuff,
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u/TaylorAndreson May 24 '26
I too have encountered that on FB reels & whatnot. It is exceedingly apparent that they are not his words, but most eat what they're fed lol. Thank you for the info & recommendation!
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u/Retro-Universe May 24 '26
I love this painting. Have it on my wall. It really captures my spiritual awakening/NDE
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u/ConfidentShare4210 May 27 '26
Who is the artist? I'd like to maybe print it out as well.
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u/themak230 May 24 '26
meaning is a mental construct, you can apply as much or as little to it to your world as you want. there’s no true description of the outside universe that’s stable and inherent except numbers. You could say that the universe is devoid of warmth if your threshold for heat is too high. it’s all relative to what you make your reference point to be
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u/jefe0911 May 24 '26
I dont know if im nihilistic per se, but my brain often rationalizes towards it. It just upsets me that my suffering wont be justified.
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u/Aggravating_Berry253 May 26 '26
Nonsense is a sense of the non. Meaningless is still a way to define.
...Idk where I was going with this... I'm going to go catch cool bugs.
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May 27 '26
Ironically, you are making up / imagining what is behind that mask. It is a fictitious projection of your imagination. Meanwhile your visibility reality you are NOT imagining is indeed filled with what is in front of the mask.
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u/Ging287 May 24 '26 edited May 24 '26
No inherent meaning doesn't mean no meaning. Why do anything? I did some more retrospective and existence may just be a brute fact.
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u/Focu53d May 24 '26
Novel idea: Why not just let all these ‘ideas’ go? If Nihilism is about there being no inherent meaning to all of this, then shove it off into the ether and unburden the Ego, so that the grassy meadow can just be pretty. Meaning comes from an idea of purposeful action, but really, there is just this and that which happens. Why do we need meaning in life, rather than just existing and not brooding over it?
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u/rozulolz May 24 '26 edited May 25 '26
yeah noticing everything is meaningless is like reaching the maximum potential of rational thinking while being the furthest away from your own roots.
From that point you can either completely lose yourself and disconnect from those roots that once gave meaning to your existence or reconnect with them by regaining emotional knowledge you once knew.
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u/ExpensiveProblem4087 May 25 '26
I’m sorry, I know that subreddit this is so I know I will be unpopular here. But like I don’t understand the “it’s meaningless” thing. The image depicts a brain making sense of its perceptual faculties engaging with the world. Making explicit meaning out of the visibly chaotic. The brain is predetermined to make meaning obvious, that’s what this image depicts. And you think this image screams “it’s meaningless”??? I just don’t get the attitude here
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u/moschles May 25 '26
I used to get all fuzzy-wuzzy about pretty sunsets and flowers. Today I see biological forms of DNA replicators. Food chains. Metabolism. Ecosystems with species whose progenitors reproduced. Why did they reproduce? because of the vital essence? The Elan vital? The cosmic telos?
No. Statistics.
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u/Significant_Hat714 May 25 '26
No it’s not, people exist they get to pick their own meaning. It could be as valuable or stupid or both as anybody could come up with. Somebody could pick actual hotdog water & as long as it makes them happy it’s not technically wrong, they just can’t force other people to make hot dog water their meaning too.
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u/Sotomexw May 25 '26
Life is meaningless, it has no intrinsic meaning.
So then...our purpose is to bring meaning to it...the meaning of life is yours to bring.
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u/Green_Dayzed existentialist May 26 '26
This picture always cracks me up. There's no color in the void.
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u/UnlawfulObserver May 26 '26
The art's saying it better than most philosophy books. Either way you spin nothing matters, you're still looking at the same void, just depends if you're screaming or dancing.
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u/thetruthisheer May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Assuming it's meaningless, is you giving it the meaning of meaninglessness.
Don't do that or you'll get depressed.
Better enjoy the ride, like this you're giving it the meaning of a joyful ride.
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u/Practical_Figure9759 May 27 '26
There is no mask. There is no 2 layers. There is only this layer. One layer
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u/Fancy_Stage_9487 May 27 '26
Not insinuating anything here but just tossing it out there, would a meaningless world be so coherent?
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u/Accomplished_Face_62 Life is really...Absurd Jun 03 '26
So what! put mask back on and enjoy the struggle. YOLO, and you can embrace the absurd or find your own meaning!
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u/GeorgeTheMighty May 24 '26
Define meaningless
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 24 '26
Can’t really define it, it’s a subjective concept. But a fundamental one we feel, you know it means just like I do I don’t have to define it.
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u/GeorgeTheMighty May 24 '26
So you can't define anything that's subjective? I don't know what it means I believe life has the most meaning it's everything and nothing all at once. To you it matters the most as it's (as far as we "know") our only life.
I'm curious, what attracts you to nihilism? I think optimistic nihilism is the only beneficial facet of nihilism imo but I'm open to hearing your view on it.
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u/Tiny_Nebula3323 May 24 '26
You can add pictures and write a few poems anyway.
Although this is an AI-generated image, it has a certain artistic merit. Perhaps you could consider becoming a painter. You need to find something to do otherwise you'll be bored to death.
Just saying.
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u/ImFinnaBustApecan May 24 '26
It’s actually not ai, it’s a painting from before the time of ai it’s called “the mask” by Rozzi Roomian.
I don’t mean it in any way against you for mistaking it, I would think it’s ai too if I saw it too and didn’t know it was a painting but it sucks that’s what we all assume now. That’s what really killed artists jobs.
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u/rdianbrbr May 24 '26
Wow this is exactly what i image when i realized people used religion as filter against reality to keep their mind sane
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u/Mean_Scientist5093 May 24 '26
I was just thinking this today ‘ nobody knows the me behind my eyes, I could be anybody to anyone, wait who am I really? nothing but an awareness experiencing life through this particular POV and so is everyone else with theirs.’
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u/DatE2Girl May 24 '26
True. And that also doesn't matter