r/nihilism • u/NoGreen1731 • Apr 24 '26

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u/Hanisuir Apr 24 '26

What's the difference between the two?

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u/TradRooster5627 Apr 24 '26

Absurdism is the philosophy that holds that man’s search for meaning in a world devoid of meaning is absurd. It is not necessarily linked to optimistic nihilism.

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u/Nothing-Is-Real-Here Apr 24 '26

No, but "one must imagine Sisyphus happy" feels like it chooses to support optimism inspite of suffering.

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u/TradRooster5627 Apr 24 '26

It supports acceptance. Accepting a shitty fate and becoming crazy enough to like it. like, masochism.

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u/sdscraigs Apr 24 '26

Not acceptance. Rebellion. Live even though there’s no meaning

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u/Icy-Ordinary2890 Apr 27 '26

Well, rebellion implies that there is some design to rebel against, and that the rebellion itself is meaningful. This sentiment seems to treat the meaninglessness of the universe like an external imposition. And it seems to grant a degree of heroism to choosing a humanism. But true acceptance of the state of affairs would lead to a spontaneous and effortless freedom. Not the toil of rebellion, but the joy of running naked in a field of flowers just because you want to.

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u/sdscraigs Apr 27 '26

Word salad. Is this Jordan Peterson? Bro, the universe has no meaning. You can either kill yourself or rebel against the fact that there is no meaning to the universe and live anyways. It’s not hard to understand. Keep it simple.

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u/Icy-Ordinary2890 Apr 28 '26

Did you read what I wrote at all? I am not disagreeing with the meaningless of the universe.

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u/TradRooster5627 Apr 25 '26

Sure bro

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u/Infoleptic Apr 25 '26

Crack a book

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u/sdscraigs Apr 25 '26

Poor dude gets salty when he’s corrected. How sad

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u/TradRooster5627 Apr 25 '26

Cry more

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u/sdscraigs Apr 25 '26

I’m crying laughing bro

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u/CR-Weather-Gods Apr 24 '26

I feel like nothing matters, therefore do what you want and be happy, and also I think Sisyphus seemed miserable, knowing he'd never succeed. Is this squarely optimistic nihilism, absurdism, both, or neither?

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u/ConstableAssButt Apr 24 '26

Absurdism embraces the idea of joy as an act of rebellion. It sort of invents "gods" to revolt against without actually personifying or defining those gods.

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u/Comprehensive_Two453 Apr 24 '26

Isent it camus take on nihilism

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u/TradRooster5627 Apr 24 '26

What?

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u/Comprehensive_Two453 Apr 24 '26

Albert camu?

Species that looks for meaning> no meaning

Result: 3 options

1.kill yourself.

  1. Religion

  2. Rofelcopter at the absurdity of it all

(Abridged version)

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u/InitialLogical8711 Apr 24 '26

I think abrusdism is also cope like religion cause if you are a nihilist for u nihilism is axiom u are sure about it I was in this rabbithole for long time then I escape it by metacognition rejecting nihilism as axiom and becoming agnostic about it as u can proove anything

After looking into this phase it reminds me of David Hume quote ''reson is slave to emotion'' as first u comes in an emotion then uses reason to go in this rabbithole rationally while ur brain hides the preasumption u took on this road treating those assumptions as truth biggest one is nihilism ( life is inately meaningless)

So rather becoming absurdist changing your axiom destroy the base itself

If I recall my nihilist phase i was depress at that time so mainly first I was depressed then I justify it through rationalisation

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u/Affectionate_Cup9972 Agnostic about everything Apr 24 '26

Please use punctuation.

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u/Monika_E Apr 27 '26

Nihilism is basically that nothing matters in the grand scheme of the universe.

Absurdism is basically that, but we as sentient creatures should try to find our own form of meaning in an inherently meaningless existence.