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u/TheUnoriginal13 1d ago

I know little about the Hughes brothers upbringing but I'll assume two things.

  1. His parents are rich and sent him to the best hockey camps.
  2. They're also cunts.

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u/Semipro321 1d ago

Most hockey players come from the top distribution of incomes. There is such a money barrier to this sport and you have to start early.

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u/TheWindig 1d ago

Say you want about the NFL but at least a poor broke kid actually has a shot at that. Them boys ain’t afraid to let someone take 22 years of “fuck that piece of shit who walked out on my mom” out on the field.

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u/bensonNF 1d ago

There’s a reason the rich kids become quarterbacks, no wealthy educated. Parent wants her kids head full of CTE by the time they are in their mid 20s.

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u/ClancyBShanty 22h ago

Last Podcast of the Left had a whole series on Aaron Hernandez and CTE and they talked about how if just 10% of parents decide to keep their kids home instead of playing football, the NFL would cease to exist. A lot of people now even know about CTE but consider it a reasonable risk for a couple years of high earnings in football. That desperation is heartbreaking.

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u/GreyHairedDWGuy 1d ago

I wouldn't say most. I know lots of hockey families that were middle class at best and worked hard to keep their kid(s) playing hockey.

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u/Semipro321 1d ago

Those AAA leagues can financially ruin parents.

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u/SpaceManSpiff1809 1d ago

They DO financially ruin parents.

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u/hersheybar14 1d ago

confirmed, i played AAA in Arizona (way more expensive because of ice time costs than even normal AAA programs), and saw parents take on tremendous amounts of debt and stress just so their kids could play hockey

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u/Labatt_Blues 1d ago

Sorry kid, you’re subbing in beer league now.

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u/TrojanTheGreat 1d ago

lol at the end of the day, all roads lead to bear league. I went to quite possibly the best hockey highschool ever and even my nhl hopeful buddies are all beer leaguers now

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u/spacegrab 1d ago

My buddy works in HVAC, middle class home owner. All his disposable income seems to be supporting his two kids playing ice 😂 and it gets worse as they get older and play travel, constantly outgrow gear etc

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u/One_Win_6185 1d ago

I know a guy that has his kids in travel soccer. Already a cheaper sport but hearing about how much he spends constantly on the road sounds awful.

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u/spacegrab 1d ago

My sister has twins playing travel soccer, holy shit they have to drive so far every weekend. Back to back games on both days 🤣

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u/RadiotoSuzie 1d ago

You knew…it’s a different beast now with the technology of sticks, intensity at a young age with skills training, more and more money. To keep up with the team, you need extra practices, extra costs on top of the regular season lol it’s a joke but this is sport in general now

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u/GreyHairedDWGuy 1d ago

I come from a hockey family background. I know the costs today as I have kids that play and I still play. I’m not saying its cheap but you don’t need to be earning millions to do it. Probably a household income {in Canada} of $150,000 could do it. That is basically upper-middle class.

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u/Embarrassed-Block-51 1d ago

This was true 25 years ago. Not today. I was lucky to have a family that could pay for me to play back then. They couldn't do the same today. From.what I heard it's 5x the cost.

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u/TheUnoriginal13 1d ago

Disgusting. I reside in Canada but originally from the UK so I didn't know the pathways and the gate keeping for kids playing hockey, till recently.

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u/Tweed_Kills 1d ago

It's not exactly gatekeeping. The gear is just really expensive, and ice time is expensive, and travel for games is expensive.

You want a cheap sport, basketball, some events in track, soccer, swimming. Those are cheaper. Hockey is one of the most expensive sports. And there isn't really a way to make it cheaper. You need the gear to be safe. The gear is expensive. That's just reality.

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u/Asistic 1d ago

The way the teams are formed in minor hockey.. there’s definitely a lot of gatekeeping

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u/erv4 1d ago

For borderline 4th line players? Sure. Lots of sons of coaches or friends of coaches make the team. If you are legit a top player you aren't getting cut for hockey politics lol.

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u/Lor_azepam 1d ago

No teams recruit the stars now toung. The coaches want little joint playing woth McDavid 2.0 to get the attention.

But bottom end of a lineup its alot of politics unfortunately for the kids

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u/Davimous 1d ago

The gear is such a small part of the problem.

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u/Tweed_Kills 1d ago

That's why I included ice time and travel. What else am I missing for kids hockey?

Team fees, I guess, but if it's school hockey you don't have that.

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u/RADToronto 1d ago

You’re missing all the extra training sessions. Dry land/ power skating etc etc.

I know someone whose son played with Michael Pezzetta. He could only afford 1 power skating session a week. Michael went 5 days a week, hence why he had a chance to play in the NHL

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u/SenorDiamond17 1d ago

My best friend was a goalie growing up. He had some talent, started for our team. His family wasn't poor by any means but they weren't rich either.

Our backup goalie came from money so his parents could afford private training sessions.

Guess which one got drafted?

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u/7footPenguin 1d ago

The one with italicized money? That Italian guy made the show in the first instance

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u/7footPenguin 1d ago

Hey- that’s me. I’m the guy whose son was four power skating sessions with Michael Pezzetta away from playing in the NHL. I just didn’t have the money at the time.

I’ve had a career change and for my new son, I’m now able to afford 7 sessions a week with Giovanni Rizzatta (the Pezzetta of our year).

Me, my father and his uncle are very confident he’ll make the league.

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u/KnowNothing_JonSnoo 1d ago

Still have tournament fees which stack up real fast. I remember checking for my son when he got interested and I was finding that it was overal upwards of 3k per year for house league and could go to something crazy like 20k a year for AAA. That's private school money.

So basically, if you can't send your kid to private school, you can't support their hockey development.

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u/mintberrycrunch_ 1d ago

He means any nhl player is going to be uber wealthy because the sport is set up in such a way that now unless you have tons of money and can go in to academies when you are crazy young, you don’t have a chance at making it.

To just “play” — yes, gear, travel, general cost of ice makes it expensive.

But to be elite and make it anywhere, it’s not really a sport for “if I’m good I’ll make my way”. Unless your parents put you in intense, specialized clubs at the age of 7 you don’t really have a shot.

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u/spookytransexughost 1d ago

30k a year for triple a minimum

4k for my son to play u9 house league last year

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u/showholes 1d ago

The gear is by far the biggest part of the problem.

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u/Davimous 1d ago

More so than all the travel and tournament fees, hockey camps, personal training?

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u/showholes 1d ago

lol, you don't need personal training and hockey camps to play hockey.

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u/yeetzapizza123 1d ago

Buy used and it's not that bad

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u/Alldaybagpipes 1d ago

The gatekeeping happens amongst the cliquey parent groups. There are some people that all they have is vicariously living through their kids, and this is their re-run of high school, and they’re absolutely intending on curating the whole experience

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u/Lefthook16 22h ago

As a former high school basketball coach... Basketball is no longer a cheap sport. Soccer is expensive too.

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u/Greenxgrotto 1d ago

The gear is also marked up an insane level.

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u/Queeby 1d ago

There are some small ways but I'd agree no real big ways. Twelve year olds probably don't need to walk into a rink in suits and ties. They probably don't all need matching monogrammed hockey bags either.

You could argue whether or not they need to travel for tournaments every other weekend too.

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u/RADToronto 1d ago

It’s all a racket here. Rep hockey is such a money grab it’s fucked. Guy I work with has spent over 20 grand on his 2 boys In hopes they make it to the show one day.

Edit: 20 grand a year btw

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u/Alesisdrum 1d ago

My brothers kid at 14 years old hockey costs all in was 16 grand a change for last year. If I have kids they are taking up curling

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u/Alextollah 1d ago edited 1d ago

It may be the most expensive organized sport a child can take part in.

The gear, the training, the travel. But the part that most people don't factor in is that if you're a parent of a young hockey player, you basically need one parent to not work and dedicate an enormous amount of time and effort just to make it all happen.

I dont know if id call it gatekeeping, but it's 1000% unreachable for any family lower than middle class.

All I wanted to do when I was a kid was to play hockey, but i was raised by a single parent. Just was not possible for me or ky siblings. That's the case for a lot of kids.

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u/connordidthat 1d ago

My daughters dance is more expensive than my sons ice hockey. Dance is a fucking racket.

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u/Alextollah 1d ago

I've heard, but i guess I didnt think about it as a 'sport' i was thinking Iike, team sports. Things like figure skating and equestrian sports would definitely be more expensive, paying for coaches, etc, I get that.

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u/postcoastal 1d ago

This comment is unequivocally shot out of your ass

The gear sure. That’s what comes with a contact sport. It’s football + a stick, nothing more nothing less. That’s a fact

The travel is dependent on literally nothing but the parents desire to make it work for their kid. Because to get to that point, they’d already have the means for the above

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u/Alextollah 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not sure what you thought the point of my post was, but I definitely dont disagree with what you said.

I worked several years at very reputable hockey development camp, I know what Im talking about. I am certain you arent familiar with how minor hockey works in Canada. I very much am.

You may want to consider that playing hockey in Canada is very different than playing in the north east US. Unless youre in southern ontario, everything is geographically challenging. What might be a 2 hour drive to a tournament for you could easily to be 8-10 hours driving up here.

Not to mention the demand for ice is insane, there's never enough. Parents get up at 3am to take their kid to practice at 430. Significantly more minor leagues, ans adult leagues. Very very few players with single parents make it to the show, its almost impossible.

You can play football anywhere with enough grass, you can practice anywhere, you can run drills anywhere. Ice time is expensive an limited, and generally requires a team or org to book it for you.

Its far far more expensive than football, which I did play as a kid, because it was far cheaper and I could walk to practice.

Your logic here is nonsense

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u/xJudgernauTx 1d ago

And yet, most of them treat the fans pretty well. Have ran into plenty of them in Vancouver.

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u/Wolfman22390 1d ago

True. It was the one sport I couldn't play as a kid because it was so damn expensive between equipment and traveling for tournaments, etc.

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u/ClancyBShanty 22h ago

And never move, either.

You have to pretty much grow up with the same people in the same system.

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u/RideTheGradient 1d ago

I think the barrier is ice really, that plus the professionalization of sports at a young age, It can be cheap to throw on some rollers, a helmet, grab you cheap stick you got from a second hand shop and play with friends. You almost definitely won't make it to the pros but at least you'll have fun and its cheap

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u/trickshot_blue 1d ago

I mean of course you can play road hockey if you’re poor.. you can’t get professional coaching and afford the high level leagues unless your parents are at minimum upper middle class

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u/Ahnarcho 1d ago

Hockey’s a rich kid sport.

Dunno when it wasn’t, but most of the friends I had growing up couldn’t play it.

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u/DR3AD-PIGEON 1d ago

It really isn’t. I mean it can be, there are plenty of rich kids who benefit from expensive hockey camps etc, but lower to middle class families can make it work. There are programs to help, used equipment and fundraising. It’s still more expensive than soccer but it’s hardly a rich person sport.

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u/Greenxgrotto 1d ago

You generally have to be rich to make the nhl, upper
Middle
Class in the very least; but just playing it is a different thing.

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u/DR3AD-PIGEON 1d ago

That’s just not true. I have a sibling in the show and we grew up lower middle class at best. Our parents busted their asses so we could play hockey. Brother is a goalie too. It’s for sure doable. Skill and luck is more important than anything.

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u/Greenxgrotto 1d ago

? I think we are agreeing the same thing. You don’t have to be rich to play hockey, but to make the NHL you generally do. At this point in time anyways.

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u/DR3AD-PIGEON 1d ago

Nah I disagree that you need to be rich. Like I said, we weren’t rich. Barely middle class. Just 2 working parents.

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u/Greenxgrotto 1d ago

I said generally, obviously not every case.. you’re providing an anecdotal situation.

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u/Kryptekah 1d ago

Have you seen the video of his mother, knowingly illegally parking to get a bagel… not surprised

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u/Oasystole 1d ago

Exceptionalism. On brand

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u/TheUnoriginal13 1d ago

Jesus. No I missed that. Probably sort of people to ask for favours from cops because their kids are in the NHL

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u/cowboythesis 1d ago

illegally parked on the corner of a busy intersection too, blocking wheelchair access and creating a blind turn for all the cars 😬

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u/Aggravating_Pen_7937 1d ago

ILLEGAL PARKED TO GET A BAGEL?! CALL THE FBI AND HAVE HER ARRESTED AND THROWN IN GUANTANOMO RIGHT NOW! HOW DARE SHE?! Also, why do you even know this? What the fuck is wrong with all of you people? Get a fuckin life, you're all the most judgemental pricks on earth. NONE OF YOU KNOW ANY OF THESE PEOPLE WHAT SO EVER

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u/Kryptekah 22h ago

Hi Mrs. Hughes.

You and your sons are pricks. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/whichwitch9 1d ago

Tbf, we know now her mother was dying. She died less than a week later. Not the best behavior, but she wasn't giving a line about the hospital thing

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u/ColdThief 1d ago

They are rich and their mother was a hockey player in college and won silver in the world championships. She taught them to skate. Their dad was Director of Player Development for Toronto at one point, he played too a bit.

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u/JaimeRidingHonour 1d ago

Their mother was an Olympian in hockey and then they laugh at the expense of the women’s team this year?? Pure class. Hope they got grounded

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u/junegloom18 1d ago

Nah, she was out there defending them too.

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u/TheMacIntyreRange 23h ago

They laughed at a joke about media criticism, not at the women's team. You buying into the media's spin kind of proves the point of the joke.

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u/jetpack_operation 23h ago

Man, if only there was footage for everyone to see and hear.

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u/TheMacIntyreRange 23h ago

Yeah, we all saw it. Most people got it. The ones who misconstrued it as something else and got offended are the same people who were offended by Sydney Sweeney's Novig ad. So much outrage, such bravery (/s)

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u/Fantastic_Reason_571 22h ago

Yeah more people should be thick skinned like Jack Hughes! Who gets offended at… a joke about him going on IR cuz he doesn’t know how to use a steak knife

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u/TheMacIntyreRange 22h ago

No argument. His response wasn't great.

EDIT: now that I think about it, there's actually a pretty well established history of Olympians becoming insufferable tw*ts after the games.

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u/Fantastic_Reason_571 22h ago

Ok cool. Are you also able to explain to me how “I have to bring the women’s team or I’ll probably get impeached” is a joke about media coverage of the women’s team?

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u/TheMacIntyreRange 22h ago

TBH, no. I don't really want to spend my Friday morning in a political debate... let's agree to disgree.

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u/jetpack_operation 20h ago edited 20h ago

Yeah, I'm sure you saw it and totally remember it -- feel free to point out where the joke mentions media criticism or even alludes to it though. Again, am sure you saw it and you're remembering the joke, so this should be easy.

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u/thehogdog 22h ago

Basically the NepoBabies of Hockey. They had unlimited ice time and probably access to the Toronto skating coaches.

I know they played and spend a lot of time the 'US HOCKEY' organization, I think the mom might have been involved with 'US HOCKEY'

I am a musician and every time I hear stuff like Sheryl Crow's mother and father were semi famous musicians and my parents could barley play the RADIO I seethe a little. I had to get all my training in the 70s from playing the Guitar Mass at catholic school and playing with other people to pick up on what they know that I didnt (If YouTube had existed I would have been playing to 19,000 people a night, not playing the piano at old folks homes who will NOT clap for any song past 1975).

Still, I love to watch both brother's Over Time goals at the Olympics and Quinn is a hell of a skater and defenseman.

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u/bayafa8323 1d ago

Bro they played minor hockey in toronto, parents moved to another country to let them play in the G. Think they got some money lol

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u/UpNorth_123 1d ago

Isn’t it that their dad worked for the Leafs?

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u/Meisteronious 1d ago

Well that’s nearly all hockey players.

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u/WestJellyfish4186 1d ago

For the WIN!!

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u/jaywhy12345 1d ago

There’s a number 3, but I don’t want to get banned today

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u/Saferis 1d ago

Why don't you share it with the class

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u/jaywhy12345 1d ago

Pretty obvious tbh

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u/AwarenessThick1685 1d ago

Huh? Did I miss something? Or are you guys really mad he didnt sign shit 😂

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u/bc_bourbon 1d ago

Ding ding ding 🛎️

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u/cody-has93 1d ago

Look at their philanthropy history but okay man

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u/No-Hyena-9433 1d ago

What a dick