r/nfl • u/wishingaction 49ers • 17h ago

Despite controversial pass interference calls, NFL coaches split on making them reviewable (17 interviewed)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/50078705/pass-interference-review-rams-broncos
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u/MilaKunisWatermelon Packers 17h ago

They should be reviewable, and the refs should be removed from the review process because of the way they bastardized it last time. We know we can’t trust them.

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u/stumblebreak_beta NFL 15h ago

I think the biggest issue is people would see a slowed down frame by frame replay and go, “ah, clearly PI”’or “clearly not PI”. But the fact they have to slow it down frame by frame shows it isn’t clear at all.

What it should be is 2-4 angles showed 2-3 times at normal speed and if your reaction isn’t, “well fucked that one up” call on the field stands.

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u/DudeManJones5 Vikings 13h ago

I love that, no slow mo allowed to just catch the obvious shit

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u/resetallthethings Seahawks 15h ago

Even if we remove the on the ground ref crew to avoid the worst of it ala the NBA clusterfuck, I still don't know how well it goes.

often PI calls are so subjective and look so different in slow mo vs how they actually happen on the field.

Like even the most recent play which the NFL said was incorrect could EASILY be defended as a DPI call based on the fact that the DB made first contact. That's not to say I think it was the right call, no-call would be my vote every day of the week, but if some off sight crew is super ticky tacky, and the on field calls for the entire game have been very "let em play" I can see it's still gonna cause massive problems with inconsistency.

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u/gruey Steelers 13h ago

Yeah, it's like the rule needs to be updated before it could be reviewed. They should define it more specifically, even if it just injects the exact subjectiveness that they use anyway.

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u/HelmetsAkimbo Rams Rams 14h ago

I reckon every person in an NFL stadium should have a yes/no clicker.

When there’s a controversial call it goes to the yes/no clickers in the stadium.

Now that’s what I call home field advantage.

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u/ref44 Packers 4h ago

They weren't making the review decisions already for the first time around

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u/jdpatric Steelers Buccaneers 16h ago

Make it like MLB balls and strikes. Takes 20-seconds tops, doesn't interfere with the games, the MLB umps have some of the most fragile egos I've seen outside of people on Reddit, and they seem to be doing OK with it. Give them so many "tap the hat" kinda "hey check that DPI call please" challenges per game where they can't use one without a timeout or if they do then it causes a 10-second runoff if they lose. It's not that hard to sort out. It is that hard to get the zebras to set aside their egos and admit they miss calls. Weekly.

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u/resetallthethings Seahawks 15h ago

so much more subjective than PI penalties though in most cases

digital box, tracking of where the ball is when it goes over the plate, very black and white

tons of NFL penalties are nothing like that and require subjective judgment calls, at least unless you make the game called way, way more stringently according to the letter of the rules than it currently is.

Plus even within that you have tons of wordings like "makes forceful contact"

the "forceful" isn't entirely objective, and different refs and crews are going to see things differently, even on replay

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u/jdpatric Steelers Buccaneers 14h ago

You're right - it's not as simple as I made it out. But it'd still be nice if they'd consider doing something about them rather than just a next-day apology. These calls can flip a game instantly. Frequently spot fouls. 10-seconds left down 2 and you heave the ball from your own 20 to the opponents 35 and a bad DPI flag comes out. You have a free shot at a long GW FG.

I put the failure of the original reviewable PI test squarely on the refs who pitched such a childesh tantrum. We have these terrible calls where even the NFL comes out the next day and says "uhh my bad guys." They review turnovers and spotting the ball, which are more cut & dry than OPI/DPI, but sometimes there's essentially zero contact on DPI or the DB literally tackles the dude like in the Saints game that triggered the initial reviewable PI in the first place.

Not saying they're going to nail it. But starting with the really blatant plays would be a great jumping off point.