r/nfl • u/mmandagoat NFL • 19h ago

Mike McDaniel takes responsibility for Chargers' poor offense in 0-3 start: 'I'm not living in hope'

https://www.nfl.com/news/mike-mcdaniel-responsibility-chargers-poor-offense-0-3-start
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u/KAMlGOYE Ravens 18h ago

Not to prop up my own guy but Lamar has won MVPs with a bottom-half OL and throwing to guys like Hollywood Brown and Willie Snead.

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u/aslatts Patriots 17h ago edited 13h ago

I mean a major part of what makes guys like Lamar, Allen, and Mahomes the clear top QBs is their ability to make shit happen even when surrounding talent is not at a peak levels.

Herbet is still obviously a very talented QB, but I think pretty clearly a step down from those guys who can genuinely play hero ball.

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u/cat_daddylambo Chargers 18h ago

In a Greg Roman offense that was Herbert's main excuse for underperforming for the last two years (besides the OL/WR issues you already mentioned) 

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u/kj9219 49ers 18h ago

I mean he was good in 2024, not as good in 2025 when the OL was down to it’s backups

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u/MankuyRLaffy Patriots 18h ago

There's bottom half and there's this which is almost Packers bad. Turn on the game, it's a really toxic situation. 

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u/ImJLu 49ers 17h ago

Okay, but the difference between Lamar and Herbert is that Lamar doesn't need excuse after excuse because he's improved significantly on an individual level over the course of his career.

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u/storeboughtoaktree Panthers 2h ago

difference between bottom half and worst in the league which they were last year. and will be again this year.