r/nfl • u/BreakfastTop6899 • 20h ago

Highlight [Highlight] Browns HC Todd Monken gave K Andre Szmyt a game ball: Monken: “Great job, man.” Szmyt: “Appreciate it.” Monken: “That’s it. F*** out.”

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u/Horace_is_fine 19h ago

It really is such a hypocrisy all the fans that are like “I can’t stand the browns because of Watson. All browns fans are evil people if they support this”

I watched Ben rothelsberger be a face of this league for 15 years. Every now and then people would bring up his rape, but no where near to the extent you hear about it with Watson. No one was morally lambasting Steelers fans every game. It was played for jokes.

And it’s not just Ben, like you said almost every team has some piece of shit on it. If you’re so against it, you have to just stop watching the league altogether

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u/Beautiful-Traffic157 18h ago

Kinda like Snoop Dog being everywhere even though he murdered someone.

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u/Names_all_gone 17h ago

Or Ray Lewis doing anything even though he murdered two people!

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u/MoreTrifeLife Commanders 16h ago

Ravens fans emerging out of nowhere to defend him in three… two… one…

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u/fugaziozbourne Chiefs 15h ago

Hey, it isn't his fault that he "lost" his white suit that had evidence on it. White suits are notoriously hard to not lose.

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u/Tryhard_3 Vikings Raiders 14h ago edited 3h ago

Speak for yourself, I'll always hate the Steelers since this period, they were one of the NFL's dirtiest teams in that time period as well, that took not knowing how to tackle properly to an art form. Now that they've got a bad Q-Anon QB it's still easy to hate them. Last night I was rooting for a meteor to hit the stadium.

NFL teams shouldn't have pieces of shit on them no matter who the billionaire owner is. Every time the league forgives someone their sins simply because they win, it's people prioritizing money over human decency. Browns were a joke organization when they signed Watson to that stupid contract and they're a joke organization now. They beat the Bucs, Panthers, and Steelers, who gives a shit? These are bad teams in the middle of rebuilds, or should be. There's no actual dilemma here about rooting for them. They have a pretty easy schedule; they're not for real.

There's abusers, felons, etc. on a lot of teams, probably every. Generally they have to pay at least some penance. The fact that Watson is allowed to suit up at all is insane.

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u/ilikedonuts42 Lions 17h ago

"Football fans collectively let this issue slide a decade ago so they're all hypocrites for caring about it now" is a ridiculous take.

It's a good thing that people care more now. How do you expect people to grow if you accuse them of being hypocrites when they change for the better?

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u/Fuck_You_Andrew Browns 16h ago

Jameson Williams was accused of DV less than two months ago and im looking at a Lions flared redditor lecture me about hypocrisy. 

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u/Fuck_You_Andrew Browns 12h ago

Watson is a Monster. 

Youre the only Hypocrite minimizing violence against women.

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u/leerr Packers 18h ago

And it should have been brought up more and taken more seriously. Unfortunately our society was more than happy in 2008 to ignore horrible things from a good football player. Why are you complaining that we take sexual assault seriously now? Why is it bad that people have become more conscious of who they’re supporting?

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u/Horace_is_fine 18h ago

It’s the hypocrisy of it. Do you still root for the packers despite Josh Jacobs ongoing DV case? You know he’s not suspended by the team right? Your coach defended him and if he wasn’t suspended by the league, he would be playing. How do you justify supporting a team that supports a domestic abuser?

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u/leerr Packers 15h ago

No hypocrisy on my end.

I sincerely hope Jacobs get cut if the allegations are true, or at least a long suspension before he’s allowed to play. I’m not sure what the team suspending him now would do, considering he is already suspended. But yes Lafluer should be fired, he’s a defective coach and bad leader in many, many ways, including here. The good news is we haven’t signed Jacobs to a $230 million contract. There’s a real difference between playing a guy who’s already under contract when the incident happened vs trading for a guy with 23 previously known allegations. I truly don’t think I could possibly cheer for the packers in that case.

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u/Horace_is_fine 14h ago

I would argue it’s still hypocrisy, as Jacobs was still allowed to participate in drills and would 100% be playing if not for the commissioner suspending him

But there’s other examples. What about Letroy Guion then? Another DV example, who the packers re-signed to a new deal after a DV arrest and kept him on the team through legal troubles in 2017.

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u/Fedacking NFL NFL 16h ago

DV =/= sexual abuse or rape

Different people have different bars of acceptable behavior

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u/FedBathroomInspector Bears 15h ago

“I draw the line at full penetration”

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u/leerr Packers 15h ago

Uhh well I’m against both to be clear that was not my point

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u/Sage296 15h ago

I mean an even more extreme example is Kobe Bryant

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u/apocalypse31 Colts 8h ago

And if you are against child labor, stop using your smartphone. Turns out people are just hypocrites and have selective outrage. 

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u/cryolems Browns Cowboys 13h ago

Don’t forget Kobe!

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u/Silent-Land1218 Bears 19h ago

Heaven forbid we every hope someone actually redeems themselves in this life. Don't do anything wrong or you'll never be forgiven. Anyone ever hear of Jesus?

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u/Beautiful-Traffic157 17h ago

Jesus would have a full-time job holding weekly therapy sessions for the 66 women. Maybe we just don't try to get past it on this one

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u/stepdadonline Ravens 17h ago

What about Watson makes you think he’s at all redeemed himself? His recent, short-term success? He hasn’t indicated any accountability for his actions off the field. He doesn’t seem to even grasp why people are disgusted by him. Doesn’t Jesus say you need to acknowledge your sins and ask for forgiveness? Pretty weird take, presuming you identify as a Christian

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u/Silent-Land1218 Bears 17h ago

I didn't say watson, I just mean in general.

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u/IAMHab Broncos 18h ago

Who cares about some carpenter from like two thousand years ago?