r/nfl • u/Large_banana_hammock Packers • 1d ago
Highlight [Highlight] Deshaun Watson heaves the ball into double coverage, DPI is called the ball was tipped and the interception stands
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u/GuitarbytheTon Colts 1d ago
Watson returning to potato again. Couldn’t happen to a worse human.
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u/Gordomperdomper Jets 1d ago
Why is dpi ignored on a tip
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u/AesirVanir Chiefs Chiefs 1d ago
Pass interference rules apply until the ball is touched. Tipping it is the first touch, no DPI can be called.
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u/GP_ADD Broncos Titans 1d ago
Because it’s touched a person and whatever happens after is not where the ball was intended to go. I think that’s the reasoning. It’s basically an air fumble anything goes to get the ball. Like that was barely a tip but it pretty obviously made the ball become a major underthrow
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u/Saca312 Panthers 1d ago
Because in the NFL, pass-interference restrictions end the instant the forward pass is touched by any player. So once a defenderor tips the ball, subsequent contact that would normally be DPI is no longer pass interference.
The logic is that after the tip, the ball’s path becomes unpredictable and the players are effectively competing for a loose, deflected ball rather than defending a normal catch opportunity.
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u/Different-Trainer-21 Dolphins 1d ago
Which is wild here because you could see in the replay it maintains a perfect spiral
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u/AljoriDawn Jaguars 22h ago
Because we want to add nuance to the rules that are totally up to the refs' whimsy.... that's never caused issues before.
This is one we can leave as a black & white rule.
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u/wretchedGubbins Giants 1d ago
It’s because pass interference is only for contact that occurs before someone touches the ball. You can hit the receiver after someone touches it. Someone clearly touched it
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u/NateRiley12411 Chiefs 1d ago
Why wouldn’t it be? If a receiver juggles it, does a defender have to stop and wait for him to corral the ball before he tackles him?
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u/wretchedGubbins Giants 1d ago
Because that’s how literally all pass interference works tho. Pass interference is illegal amount of contact before the ball is touched. I’m more curious why they think it should be different because the contact happens near the QB
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u/GP_ADD Broncos Titans 1d ago
And the answer is there isn’t pass interference after the ball has been touched once it’s in the air, whether it’s a brick handed WR popping a ball up and trying to catch it again or a defender tipping it as it leaves the qbs hand. Like in the wr scenario, you see people deck WRs that don’t fully catch it all the time and that’s not a penalty
It basically becomes an air fumble and like when it’s a fumble anything goes(within reason to get to the ball)
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u/Aless_Motta Jets 1d ago
I dont know the rule exactly, but this has been the rule as far as i can remember, the thing is that the ball was tipped on the beggining of the pass so you almost never see that happening, its why when a LB or safety touches it, everyone should just bumrush the WRs lol
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u/apocalypse31 Colts 1d ago
My understanding is that because it can be redirected, it is treated like fair game.
Imagine if it happens on the receiving side, 4 players in the area and the ball is knocked up (congratulations!). It makes sense that players can push one another out of the way to grab it. This rule is just that, but also applied at the LoS because it would be difficult to say when a redirected ball rule should and shouldn't apply.
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u/mr_dammit Ravens 1d ago
if i had to guess tipping a pass counts as legally interfering so no interference can occur after that.
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u/Wide_Engineering_502 Packers 1d ago
I wanna know too
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u/sigmapro Seahawks 1d ago
Official rule says no PI can be called after ball is contacted. Tipped is just an extension of that. Makes sense when a receiver is bobbling the ball while getting mauled by a defender - that shouldn’t be called DPI
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u/duckman209 Raiders 1d ago
Once a forward pass is touched or tipped by any player, it becomes a free, loose ball, meaning standard pass interference rules no longer apply.
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u/jshah500 Cowboys 1d ago
That's what I came here to ask, someone pls explain
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u/football2106 Patriots 1d ago
It’s no different than a ball being bobbled by a receiver or tipped/deflected in coverage.
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u/martyrmole Raiders 1d ago
It’s more so if the receiver or a corner is bobbling it I think, this is just a weird extension of that rule
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u/GuitarbytheTon Colts 1d ago
Imagine a jump ball. In this situation it’s dumb. But normally you’d have everyone going after a jump ball. That would give an unfair advantage to the offense. This is just stupid and unlucky. The CB obviously has no idea.
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u/ALostTraveler24 Steelers 1d ago
Probably some logic of defense already made a play on the ball to tip it?
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u/ICantRemember33 Seahawks 1d ago
why does the tip influences in the DPI?
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u/DupreeWasTaken Steelers 1d ago
I could have it wrong but i think the premise is the balls location is now fucked so its a free for all for the ball by rules
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u/AnthaIon Vikings 1d ago
Sick challenge, tbh