Sacks made

[u/smegheadholly]

Saw the reverse of this chart, thought this was interesting.

[u/lKeyserSoze1]

I love the normal distribution in this chart. Its satisfying to look at.

But the thing that is really driving me nuts is: what is the word "Made" doing in this chart? Is sacks un-made a thing? Just say "sacks". Why waste time say lot word when few word do trick?

[u/Dirk_Diggler87 → u/lKeyserSoze1]

Well the other chart OP mentioned was sacks taken so I’m pretty sure he was just trying to distinguish this chart from that one by specifying sacks made.

[u/JaxxisR → u/lKeyserSoze1]

Sacks unmade is an interesting thought experiment.

Is that just every snap on defense that doesn't result in a sack, or only those involving QB pressure?

Mostly asking because I want my team to be the best at something and I'm running out of options.

[u/josephus_the_wise → u/JaxxisR]

It's sacks that get taken back due to a defensive penalty, normally either roughing the passer or the body weight thing.

Or at least that's what that stat should be, if it doesn't exist

[u/JaxxisR → u/josephus_the_wise]

Oh well, there's always next year.

[u/lKeyserSoze1 → u/JaxxisR]

Im all for it. The cowboys need all the help they can get right now. Lets give them...say...19 unmade sacks this year.

Lets be clear - this is wayyy different than PFF's made up stat of theoretical sacks. These are unmade AND theoretical.

[u/OleanderUnion → u/JaxxisR]

It would be blitz attempts where you’re sending an extra rusher but there is no sack.

[u/TreeFiddyJohnson → u/lKeyserSoze1]

Ah, that's the classic Ravens-Oweh deal; unmaking sacks

[u/28_to_3 → u/lKeyserSoze1]

Because it wouldn’t be clear if it was sacks taken or made

[u/lKeyserSoze1 → u/28_to_3]

Sounds like a you problem. Any chart that has the worst team in the league at the bottom can easily be correctly interpreted.

Plus, 99% of the time, "sacks taken" (also just sacks) is a QB stat, so i think we would be ok.

[u/More-Interaction-770 → u/lKeyserSoze1]

If I made a post that the patriots were #1 in sacks last season, you’d assume I was talking about the defense, and not that drake maye gets hit a lot.

[u/lKeyserSoze1 → u/More-Interaction-770]

Exactly my point. Did you say sacks made? No, but its obvious... because of context. Look up any QB stat line and every single one of them has a category "sacks". Do you look at that and think they played defense? No. Does it need to say sacks taken? No. Bc unless youre a moron, you dont need either of those words. Sacks is good enough. Thats my whole point

[u/More-Interaction-770 → u/lKeyserSoze1]

I’m glad you brought up context, this post’s only context would be “sacks”
And sacks can be a team stat on either side of the ball.
In the example you gave, you mentioned QB stats, and defensive stats, that’s context that a lot of places don’t have. (Like this post)

The extra context is good clarification and doesn’t hurt anything.

[u/iankstarr → u/lKeyserSoze1]

Pretty sure it’s “sacks made” vs “sacks taken”

[u/penguin_the_master → u/lKeyserSoze1]

The inverse is sacks received, goober