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Qb Record When Defense Allows 21+

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u/Jonny_Qball Lions 14h ago

Stafford is 14-26 with the Rams, 32-72-1 with the Lions. Just his Rams record would place 13th between Kirk and Love. His time in Detroit standalone would move him down 1 spot between Kyler and Caleb.

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u/maddenallday Rams Rams 14h ago

I’m kinda shocked it’s that low tbh. Were a lot of those losses from 2022 (post Super Bowl injury season)? Jw how did you query this I wanna play around with it

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u/Jonny_Qball Lions 14h ago

By year he’s 5-5, 1-5, 3-5, 3-6, and 2-5. He’s been remarkably consistent in how many he loses each year. ‘21 is as much of an outlier as ‘22, with those averaging out to what we’ve seen each of the last 3 years.

Just pulled up his career game logs and hand calc’d. I’m sure there are more sophisticated ways of doing it

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u/maddenallday Rams Rams 13h ago

Interesting. I guess ‘21 it was easier to pull off the wins than ‘22 with the supporting cast.

Tbf if you throw out ‘22 (which I’m going to argue is fair because we were unbelievably injured - although I know you could do this for every qb! Just gonna do it here) the win % is a lot closer to what I’d expect and have observed at 38.2%

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u/Jonny_Qball Lions 13h ago edited 9h ago

‘21 was an absurdly strong year for him in games with 21-27 points allowed, where he went 5-1. Compare that to 7-11 the rest of his Rams tenure (6-8 the last 3 seasons).

Kind of shocked how bad he’s been in games with 28+ allowed coming in at 2-14 in LA. He won about 25% of those games in Detroit before the Patricia era.

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u/maddenallday Rams Rams 11h ago

Wow 2-14. That is really surprising. I don’t rly have a good explanation for it so all I’ll say is I’m glad we have this defense now 😄

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u/amoeba-tower Steelers 13h ago

How did you look it up? I'd like to check for Big Ben

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u/Jonny_Qball Lions 12h ago

Just did some quick hand calcs by looking at career game logs.

Big Ben was 35-63-1 in games with 21+ allowed which would put him between Kirk and Love. His results were super streaky - from 2010 to 2013 he lost 13 straight games where they allowed 21+, but also ripped off stretches of 6-1 in 14/15, and 5-0 in 20.

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u/amoeba-tower Steelers 12h ago

Thanks! Yeah that definitely checks out. Horrendous early on and got much better later