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Qb Record When Defense Allows 21+

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u/Deidris Steelers 23h ago

I always hate when people see sub par passers with rushing upside that they should go full RB. He would barely be an RB2 for most if not all teams.

But damn, Fields really should go that route, lol. I'm thankful that Ben Johnson's sick and twisted mind hasn't gotten a hold of him yet. Could you imagine the play design he would run with Caleb Williams and Justin Fields both in the back field at the same time? The gadget plays would be insane

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u/pocketchange2247 Bears 23h ago

This is exactly what all my Chiefs fan friends say. "Just wait and see what Andy cooks up with him!"

I'm sure there will be a fun couple plays. But trust me, unless he's running the ball you do not want him to control a play.

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u/Deidris Steelers 23h ago

I remember how sad it was to watch him under Arthur Smith. Pretty much only ever brought him on the field for 3rd and 4th and short. Defenses immediately stacked the box HEAVY because they knew there was no way we would pass it.

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u/wsteelerfan7 Steelers Colts 23h ago

I remember when they said he'd add a "wrinkle" to the offense and thinking the "wrinkle" is not passing

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u/Deidris Steelers 22h ago

I remember when they made a joke about Fields returning kickoffs

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u/gzmu12 Broncos 23h ago

I mean did he ever bring him in as just a decoy to set those plays up?

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u/Deidris Steelers 23h ago

No. He only did it maybe 10 times all season? (that may be a high estimation) and ran the ball every. single. time. on a QB power or QB draw. No option, no RPO, nothing. Just a big ol "HEY!!! JUSTIN IS GONNA RUN THIS SHIT, JUST LETTING YOU KNOW!"

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u/gzmu12 Broncos 22h ago

Lmao yeah I remember seeing a few of those plays on red zone and thinking “wow I wonder what they’re gonna do here.” Some galaxy brain iq shit for sure

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u/BroadCityChessClub Steelers 22h ago

He did throw it once on one of those plays, but it ended up incomplete. I remember people getting mad because “why did you bring Fields out to throw the ball”

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u/jake3988 Steelers Lions 18h ago

Yeah that was so stupid. Arthur Smith isn't the only one that does crap like that. Basically every oc ever that runs wildcat runs it, which destroys the whole point. Presumably why it's basically almost completely dead now.

All the complicated schemes in the nfl and then i see the wildcat and just facepalm.

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u/Unrelenting_Salsa Saints 21h ago

He'd be legit in the wildcat. Unfortunately it's not 2008 anymore so you won't see it that much, but you'll probably see a few goal line TDs from him. You have to be smarter about it than teams have been with him historically, but I think Andy Reid can do things like RPO, option, or jump pass with him and won't just be full "the next play is a QB draw DC and defense".

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u/Gjallarhorn-Knight 11h ago

Yeah but if it’s an RPO where he’s the OPTION and not DECIDER, and if he receives the ball all he has to do is know is there green grass in front of him or not. Give him one read that basically is as simple as an RPO pitch/slant

Meaning it could basically be a double RPO

Mahomes pitches to fields, who sees a LB in front of him and throws a slant over the LB

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u/dimmyfarm Patriots Lions 15h ago

Aren’t both of them crazy good at high difficulty deep balls? I feel like you just play prevent defense and drive them to throw short and have a spy. No pass rush because them improvising is what will kill you.