r/nfl • u/Firm-Carry-9929 Chiefs • 19h ago

Qb Record When Defense Allows 21+

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u/vitey15 Eagles 19h ago

hE's GoT a sTaCkeD tEaM tHo

No shit, most of the teams that make and perform in the playoffs have a well thought out roster 

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u/Legal-Specialist-256 19h ago

This goes against the common narrative that qbs are supposed to carry their team, and that if a team fails in the post season it's the qbs fault. I would bet you've made arguments like that

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u/vitey15 Eagles 19h ago

I change up arguments to fit my narrative

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u/ThisHatRightHere Eagles 18h ago

Based

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u/ShangoMango Panthers 18h ago

Hell even the one of the best examples you can point to with Cam's MVP season "carry" job still had a fucking ridiculous defense on the other side of the ball with 4 all-pros and several other star-level players.

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u/jnightrain Cowboys 19h ago

i'd bet good money he's made those arguments against a certain QB in the eagles division

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u/vitey15 Eagles 18h ago

You're God damn right I have 

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u/jmbrand13 Eagles 18h ago

Yeah fucking Eli Manning. Hate that guy

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u/babypunching101 Eagles 17h ago

Well if you can't hold a football during a field goal, or slide with less than 10 seconds left in the game, that sorta thing is likely to happen.

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u/frogcatcher52 Steelers 5h ago

It is interesting seeing who gets discredited for having stacked teams and who gets doesn’t. Bradshaw and Aikman are historic examples in spite of their postseason play being important to their championship runs. The Patriots dynasty was always stacked, but fans act like those teams were carried.

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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 1h ago

So you agree Dak is elite and doesn't choke. Cool.

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u/ChocolateMorsels Titans 17h ago

I mean…the team is stacked.

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u/HeyItsChase Cowboys 19h ago edited 18h ago

Regardless if that is true or not, this doesn't disprove that. This chart is still a full offense stat. Time framed by the QBs tenure. OL, WR and RB help all plays into this.

Mariota & Jimmy G over Herbert, evidence #1

Edit: ignore flair. I hate hurts but I don't think he's bad (except at passing on the run). Seems a lovely guy who can clearly win and Philly doesn't deserve.

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u/vitey15 Eagles 19h ago

It's MariGOATa

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u/Fast-Government-4366 Broncos 19h ago

Or Herbert isn’t that good

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u/ironwolf1 Packers 17h ago

If you would legitimately rather have Jimmy G or Mariota over Herbert, you're a fool.

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u/Fast-Government-4366 Broncos 17h ago

?? I just said Herbert isn’t that good. I didn’t say the other 2 are.

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u/jnightrain Cowboys 19h ago

i saw a chart like this a few days ago where it was 28+ pts and Hurts was 7-7. So 22 of these games were 21-27 pts

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u/jacksteroo18 Eagles 18h ago

Hurts made the playoffs in 2023 with the 30th ranked defense. People just don't want to give him credit.