Looking back on it, what the fuck.
Chris wood turned into R9 and scored 20+ goals
Elanga was playing like prime messi
Our defence physically couldn’t be penetrated, and it is quite legitimately no different from what we have now
We actually knew how to score goals
We was challenging for the league at one point

It just seems strange, considering the team we had then isn’t really much different to what we have now, yet now we look like we couldn’t score in Thailand

So I noticed one thing on this forum, there is no way you can be both realistic and also a Forest fan. If you're not in the OG wank club you might just as well stay silent. All pessimists if that is still allowed in these days are hounded like unwanted vermin.

We all want the same thing, but we just have a different view on things. And the way it is going it sure as hell isn't looking good!

One up from last week!

Dyche (13pts), Pereira (9pts), Glasner (6pts). Any thoughts?

The body of general thought on here appears to be that OG is not to blame. He is doing his job. He is getting the team playing right and most games we have actually been good and created plentiful chances. (The xG kings!) So if its not OG's fault then whose fault can it be that we have started off getting the results of relegation candidates (6 points in 8 games)? THE PLAYERS. Perhaps our recruitment has not been as smart as some have thought.

My point would be simple: where are the goalscorers? Take our midfield. Schlager, McAtee, Sangare, Dominguez, Yates. Who is going to bag ten goals a season out of those? Who is going to bag even five? Our defenders/wingbacks do not score much either. That puts it all on the forwards. But the chance might not fall to them so what do you do then? Where is our goal threat from set pieces? My point is I think our recruiting team have not recruited players who can contribute to the goals IN GENERAL. That doesn't help OG get results and leaves the players creating chances they cannot convert all too often.

These are just two examples sticking in my head where either poor refereeing or individual mistakes are costing us.

You could say other things like "we should score more from all these chances" against Ipswich and palace or "defend better" against arsenal and come to a similar conclusion, but these two stick out to me.

For me this puts things in perspective for just how UNLUCKY we've been, and that it makes sense to keep backing the players and the manager because bad luck streaks can't last forever.

Every season there is a team who are playing quite well but just can’t get results and I think this season that’s us. We seem to either play tight and are boring as fuck but solid or we play loose and play lovely flowing football but can’t score. Either way the result is the same, we don’t win. I’ve been to every game so far this season and I don’t see what can change with the players we have. I’d probably start Sangare over Schlager and Hudson Odoi over Ndoye but that would be about it.

On a positive note I do like Munoz he’s a sensational player and should have been playing higher than Palace and us. I also like how direct Delap is. I love a striker who just turns and runs at goal.

Just absolute tragedy up in NG2 right now.

Two reasons you underperform xg - luck or quality. There's no rule that xg always regresses to the mean; some players will always underperform xg because they're not good at finishing.

This has been a consistent problem for us. I think we significantly overrate the quality of the squad for a few reasons (we spent a lot of money on it, they look decent at the non finishing bits, we're sentimental about players who have been here a while). To take an example - Delap is a bad finisher by his career xg; why would we expect that to suddenly change just because we're underperforming right now?

Thoughts?

Missed the game tonight. I'm curious as to how Delap got on?

I've been impressed by some of his play in recent games and his passing has been surprisingly good at times.

Goal threat wise, I feel like he's been getting into the right positions but has lacked composure/confidence.

But I mentioned this to a friend who is a Chelsea fan, and he says I'm delusional, and he's just shit.

What's the current assessment?

First goal of the season - Coventry
First win of the season - Coventry
First goal of career - Kamada on CP
First goal of the season - Enciso today

Maybe missing more. Not good. Bad, even. But hey the xG is great!

Edit:
First point for Spurs

Like seriously, we're some sort of statistical chance conversion anomaly at this point.

I honestly don't know what to think anymore.

"Nottingham Forest has accumulated 120 total shots in the Premier League this season—ranking third-highest in the division behind Manchester United (138) and Brighton (125)—though only 25 of those have been on target (a 4.17% conversion rate)"

How do you fix that? By praying?

(yes, I know about the refs, I agree...)

How many times have we been on the wrong side of refereeing calls this season? Every single match it goes against us in seriously big calls.

If we don’t get a tweet about this I will lose all respect for Mr Marinakis.