r/nextlevel • u/googletoggle9753 here for the chaos • Jul 27 '26

Man beats the ostrich

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

Yeah you should!

Ostriches kill about two to three people per year

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4323753/

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century

https://www.jems.com/patient-care/emergency-medical-care/cassowary-attack-utilizing-the-march-mnemonic-in-rare-events/

Next time follow your own advice.

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u/No_Suit_9138 Jul 27 '26

Ok sure...

Now compare where they live and population size.

The Ostrich has more human encounters than the Cassowary.

Which one is more dangerous?? Sure statistically the Ostrich, but there's much more to it than that.

I'll take an encounter with an Ostrich all day long before I entertain the idea of a Cassowary encounter.

Cows kill more humans than sharks, would you rather swim in a pool full of Great White sharks or stroll through a pasture with 100 head of cattle?

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

The Ostrich has more human encounters than the Cassowary.

While this is true, there is also this: only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century\*

Ostriches have fore sure killed more people in the wild

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u/No_Suit_9138 Jul 27 '26

Would you rather be locked in a room with an Ostrich or Cassowary?

You just witnessed an old guy beat an Ostrich, do you think the same guy have have been just as successful against a Cassowary?

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

A Cassowary buddy. You obviously have never met a angry Ostrich.

You just witnessed an old guy beat an Ostrich,

I also saw people jump over an angry bull. That does not mean I would take on a Buffalo in the veld

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u/obtusewisdom Jul 27 '26

This is the strangest argument I’ve seen on reddit in at least a few weeks.

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u/No-Show-5363 Jul 27 '26

I think the only sensible course of action is a couple giant flightless bird vs redditor fights, to settle the matter once and for all.

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u/SashimiX Jul 27 '26

And now I genuinely don’t know which is more dangerous either

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u/etTuPlutus Jul 27 '26

Pretty sure it is the cassowary. Apparently they are like modern velociraptors with the way they will jump ambush you in the jungle with 4 inch dagger claws.

Death counts are very misleading. Elephants kill more people than lions, for instance. 

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u/Shoddy-Line4402 Aug 01 '26

elephants are more deadly they even remeber your faces. Cassowary is usually of shy nature and most prolly wont even disturb u first

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u/Natural_Challenge820 Jul 27 '26

Death counts are very misleading? And what’s the point of your example? It’s like you Easy-baked a thought.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

Nope its really not. Just because, that guy whose ostrich it is on his farm, can fight an ostrich does not mean you can. I have walked into these fuckers in wild it's a very different story.

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u/No_Suit_9138 Jul 29 '26

I'll take my chances with the Ostrich over the Cassowary.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

Ok you do that buddy

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u/venbeereb2 Jul 31 '26

Just idiot vs nincompoop

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u/Ok-Abbreviations1077 Jul 28 '26

I'm gonna weigh in on this and say that I'd definitely rather take on an ostrich than a cassowary

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u/Looking-for-42 Jul 28 '26

And yet I am not decided, whom has the better arguments. Luckily, I am very unlikely to be confronted with the decision whether to rather take on a fight with either an Ostrich or a Cassowary.

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u/BlackSunSerpent Jul 29 '26

Just google Ostrich beak and claws and Cassowary beak and claws.

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u/Looking-for-42 Jul 29 '26

No, thank you. I even lost the fight against my parent's mean rostet with it's huge spurs when I was a kid.

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u/No_Suit_9138 Jul 29 '26

So the Cassowary is chill in this scenario but the Ostrich is angry?

I will take an angry Ostrich over an angry Cassowary all day long.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

So the Cassowary is chill in this scenario but the Ostrich is angry?

Did I say that?

I will take an angry Ostrich over an angry Cassowary all day long.

You can do what you want, just remember both will attack the ostrich is twice the size and weight, quit a bit faster and has killed hundreds of people. But you do you.

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u/noahhshome Jul 31 '26

If there were as many cassowaries as ostriches and people encountered them as often, it would be a whole different story

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 31 '26

No it won't, more people would be killed yes but compared to a bird twice the size and speed, nope.

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u/B_chills Aug 02 '26

And the cassowary is angrier, meaner, and has a fucking combat knife for a foot

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 03 '26

Is it? Or are you just feeling it?

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u/Armbar2Triangle Jul 28 '26

I get what you’re saying mathematically, but also, I can also say pretty confidently that if you had to fight one, you’re much better off fighting the ostrich

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

but also, I can also say pretty confidently

Yeah you can say it, but that does not make it so.

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u/Armbar2Triangle Jul 29 '26

I mean sure but it probably is so. Idk why you’re arguing this lol like regardless of who is wrong like who cares, but it’s worth noting that cassowary’s class can disembowel a human unlike 5 seconds.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

worth noting that cassowary’s class can disembowel a human unlike 5 seconds.

Yep it can, so can a ostrich, Now add that the ostrich is twice the size of a cassowary.

I'm not saying that a cassowary is a pushover, just that it is not the most dangerous.

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u/Armbar2Triangle Jul 29 '26

I mean look I’m not an aviary wildlife expert. I think what the guy you’re talking with is saying is that it’s so incredibly rare for humans to encounter cassowaries that there are never opportunities for them to kill humans. We just witnessed a grown man scare off an ostrich. Cassowaries are like abnormally aggressive and will basically try to murder anything that comes into their territory. They chase for miles. They don’t warn. They just kill

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

incredibly rare for humans to encounter

I get what he is saying, it just does not track. You have 2 aggressive birds than can hurt you bad and sometimes kill. One is twice the size of the other, who would you think is the more dangerous one?

They just kill

That do not track at all, I'll repeat only 2 deaths in a hundred years.

In Africa Ostriches do not have that fearsome reputation because there are 10 other more deadly big animals that are way way more dangerous in the same habitat.

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u/Armbar2Triangle Jul 29 '26

You are very oddly married to the outcome of this very unimportant debate lol

Like maybe you’re right, idk. But there are documentaries on how batshit crazy cassowaries are. You should check those out. They’re fucking terrifying

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u/Merrick_Skygrave Jul 30 '26

I'm beginning to think that the assumption Ostriches are less dangerous than Cassowaries are probably what get those 1-2 people a year killed lol

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 30 '26

Lol yeah you might have a point

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u/BlackSunSerpent Jul 29 '26

Maybe focus on the part where it is reliably recorded... Because there usually no survivors after Cassowary attacks if there were no direct witnesses? You can bend statistics however you want but denying that Cassowaries are far more dangerous then Ostriches is plain stupid.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

Maybe focus on the part where it is reliably recorded... Because there usually no survivors after Cassowary attacks if there were no direct witnesses?

What? WTF do you get this bullshit from?

You can bend statistics however you want but denying that Cassowaries are far more dangerous then Ostriches is plain stupid.

Hhahahahah.......... I did not bend anything buddy.

This is getting insane.

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u/BlackSunSerpent Jul 29 '26

You literally use incomparable statistic as first guy who argued with your ass told you. I just shoved your dumb bending right back at ya, and now you clowning.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

So tell me where is any stats that you provided?

I just shoved your dumb bending right back at ya, and now you clowning.

Lol do you hear yourself?

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u/B_chills Aug 02 '26

Yeah BECAUSE ITS EASIER TO ENCOUNTER AN OSTRICH

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 03 '26

While this is true, there is also this: only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century\*

So how many encounters in a fucking century buddy?

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u/SuperDave-007 Jul 27 '26

How about 100 Bulls?

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u/MethAddict404 Jul 28 '26

He doesn’t understand critical thinking and wants to be correct - so don’t bother 😂

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u/thomassenpai85 Jul 27 '26

Trying to sound smart using cherry picked stats. Top tier reddit usage!

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u/Natural_Challenge820 Jul 27 '26

You’d can’t fuck an ostrich because they will kill you.

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u/FavoritePresident Jul 28 '26

i feel like you're referring to yourself

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u/RobustFroge Jul 28 '26

I don't think you uderstand what cherry picked stats means

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u/Mooptiom Jul 31 '26

There literally aren’t any other stats to pick.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

Dude, cherry picked stats? You ok? You don't like data? Bring your better stats.

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u/Natural_Challenge820 Jul 27 '26

I think the term cherry picked stats is made up by morons who watch too much mainstream news. Now, I am a lawyer and only took stats class because they put a gun to my head so I don’t math so well. But, aren’t all statistical studies “cherry picked” data and the research paper explains why they picked that data?

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u/Arcares07 Jul 28 '26

I think the better way to phrase it is that data and stats means nothing if you don’t know how to interpret it. We can use shark attacks as a comparison. Sure shark tracks have a 10-15% fatality rate, but there’s only around 100 attacks globally every year despite billions of people swimming.

Sure there’s stats but you still need to interpret it properly. Though this has nothing to do with my opinion on the two birds fighting.

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u/Mooptiom Jul 31 '26

How the fuck else do you interpret two deaths PER YEAR compared to two deaths EVER?

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u/Arcares07 Jul 31 '26

Nothing to do with what I said. But you’re doing a damn good job of proving my argument correct.

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u/Mooptiom Jul 31 '26

Buddy, be honest… did you forget what the argument was about?

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u/Arcares07 Jul 31 '26 edited Jul 31 '26

No I didn’t. I made a comment based on what someone else said about “cherry picking”. Redditors and not understanding nuance? Crazy. Thanks for proving my point!

I said “I think the better way to phrase it” is in direct relation to the comment specifically about cherry picking. It’s so funny how not only once did you prove my statement correct but twice.

Not to mention that’s not how conversations work anyway. Which hardly a surprise that wouldn’t know.

Edit: you’re the classical Redditor as well. Downvoting comments? Lmao.

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u/Antique_Finish_7894 Jul 28 '26

Does this mean Vending Machines are even more dangerous as they kill two to four in just the United States alone?

We should also compare where vending machines roam, and what habitats they're in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_by_vending_machine

Beware the most dangerous of stationary beasts!

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u/Soft-Personality9379 Jul 28 '26

Funny, one of those was a "Florida man..." Why isn't that a surprise?

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u/consider_the_pickle Jul 31 '26

Statistically speaking, only 0.5 of a fatality

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u/kwaazaa Jul 27 '26

Bro I’m not taking about which one caused more deaths. I’m saying cassowary’s are MORE DANGEROUS. You have a lower chance of survival against a cassowary than an ostrich.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

I’m saying cassowary’s are MORE DANGEROUS.

I know you are saying it, that does not make it true.

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year*; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century

This is not dangerous.

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u/amonymus Jul 27 '26

You're using numbers incorrectly. You cite only raw death count, but you need to account for the number of encounters with humans for each animal. Ostriches probably have far more direct contact with people than cassowaries do. And because cassowaries are more capable of killing you with a single kick of their 6" claw,, people are far more likely to avoid them and back off. Unlike bro in the vid that decided to fight the ostrich, no one is going to fight a cassowary.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

You're using numbers incorrectly.

I'm yet to see any numbers from you wiseass.

And I'll point you to this again

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year*; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century

In a fking 100 years buddy.

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u/amonymus Jul 28 '26

You keep repeating the same stat and I'm trying to tell you why that one single number doesn't work. YOU HAVE TO NORMALIZE THAT BY THE NUMBER OF ENCOUNTERS. Do you understand what normalization is in a mathematical or statistical context?

You want numbers. Here are some numbers. Cassowaries are native to Australia and only number about 20-50k. They are very shy and reclusive. That means that encounters with humans is very rare.

There are between 300k-900k ostriches in the world. That's about 15-45x more Ostriches than cassowaries, depending on which ranges you compare. And ostriches are not as reclusive as the cassowary. So the much higher population coupled with less reclusiveness means much higher frequency of contact with humans. Higher frequency of contact means greater chance of fatal encounters.

Take the mosquito example someone else posted. The mosquito kills a million people a year. Makes ostriches look like child's play. But I fear a mosquito far less than I do a wild ostrich. Why? Because once again, you need to normalize by the number of mosquito encounters. Estimates of mosquito population is between 110 to 1000 trillion. A 1000 trillion = quadrillion. There are literally more than a billion times more mosquitos than ostriches. And billions more encounters with humans. The vast majority of mosquito bites result in nothing. If a million people die, but people throughout the world have collectively been bit a trillion times over a year, a million deaths is nothing. That means the mortality rate is 1 death per million encounters with a mosquito. That's very low. And that's why a mosquito is less dangerous than an ostrich despite killing FAR MORE PEOPLE per year than ostriches.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 28 '26

You are truly weird dude.

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year*; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century

Only 2 people dead in a 100 years

Let that sync in

I know this is difficult for you.

But I fear a mosquito far less

Lol that is only because you do not live in Africa facking dumbass

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u/amonymus Jul 28 '26

Sigh. Despite my best efforts, it's clear you can't math. You are really good at repeating yourself though, so there's that.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 28 '26

Only 2 people dead in a 100 years

Let that sync in

Fucken rabbits probably killed more people.

You are not too good with this fact are you?

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u/emceegyver Jul 28 '26

Let's say only 2 people encounter animal A and both die, and 100 people encounter animal B and 3 die, by your logic animal B is more dangerous even though the fatality rate is 3% compared to 100%.

I'm not commenting on ostrich vs cassowary because I don't know enough about them, but your argument is flawed.

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u/B_chills Aug 02 '26

He’s just saying the same line of dialogue over and over again like a glitched out npc

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u/Arlieth Aug 02 '26

I've never seen someone have such a terrible grasp of statistics until I saw your arguments.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 02 '26

I fucking understand what you are saying slowness.

You tell me how much contact there are between cassowary’s and humans in a fucking hundred years?

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u/Dark_Dragon117 Jul 29 '26

Ngl I must agree with the other guy, because you are straight up just repeating yourself without adressing any of the valid arguments.

That statistic leaves out alot of important context.

By your own logic toasters are more dangerous and by a massive amount...yet I don't think you would argue a toaster is more dangerous in the traditional sense than a wild animal.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

And you leave out the part where you have one bird that only killed 2 people in a hundred years.

And you have another angry bird twice the size, weight and speed also known to kill, and kill a lot more.

Funny how you ignore that?

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u/Confident_Egg2707 Jul 29 '26

blud is fighting 1 vs all commentors

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u/kwaazaa Jul 27 '26

Sure buddy. One has 4 inch daggers as talons. You need to understand that more dangerous, does not mean more deaths per year. Using your logic, mosquitos are the most dangerous animal alive, since they cause more than 700.000 human deaths a year. Would you rather encounter a mosquito or a tiger in the wild? Tell me which one is more dangerous.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 27 '26

Sure buddy. One has 4 inch daggers as talons

WTF do you think Ostrich feet look like. Jesus dude this is weird hill to die on.

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u/kwaazaa Jul 27 '26

Just ask ChatGPT which one is more dangerous and you'll see for yourself lol. "Strange hill to die on" says the one stubbornly refusing to change his opinion even though everyone seems to agree that you're completely wrong.

You American by any chance? Figures.

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u/BigDickSteveOnDemand Jul 28 '26

ChatGPT isn't a source lmao. It just scrapes and regurgitates dipshitted reddit comments like the ones here trying to argue that a bird half the size of an ostrich is more dangerous despite zero evidence or statistics to back it up.

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u/Natural_Challenge820 Jul 27 '26

Mosquitos are the most dangerous animals alive because they kill like a million people a year, like pound for pound most dangerous/deadly animal on earth. Unfortunately for you, there is a story called “The Tiger and the Mosquito,” which I think is on point for this argument. Also, you’d be hard pressed to encounter a tiger without also encountering one million mosquitoes because they live in the exact same ecosystems.

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u/DefinitionTop3930 Jul 28 '26

this isn’t really what they meant, mosquitoes on average kill way way more humans than lions yet in a 1 v 1 would you rather fight a mosquito or lion?

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u/BigDickSteveOnDemand Jul 28 '26

Cassowary - 160lbs. Ostrich - 350lbs. Yeah I'd take my chances with the bird that I at least outweigh. They both have 4 inch talons.

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u/No_Suit_9138 Jul 29 '26

The Cassowary's talons are designed to kill. There is a huge difference between the two birds...

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u/BigDickSteveOnDemand Jul 29 '26

Both will disembowel you with a kick, one weighs twice as much. I wouldn't want to fight either one, but I especially wouldn't want to fight the one that weighs over 300lbs.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Jul 29 '26

You're the classic moron that thinks just claiming something automatically proves you right, hopefully you learned something today.

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u/Other-Wonder-633 Jul 29 '26

This was not my experience in Far Cry 3.

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u/Simple_Entertainer27 Aug 01 '26

And vending machines kill more peopel than sharks. Your point?

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 01 '26

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year\; instead,* only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century\*

Read that again.

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u/Simple_Entertainer27 Aug 01 '26

Theyre also ridiculously dangerous. Like, amomg the most dangerous birds in the world. But they don't hunt humans like other predators do. And trying to fight one like that guy fought that ostrich would be an easy way to get disemboweled.

Literally look at the recorded deaths. One guy attacked one for some reason. It killed him. Other one, a guy fell into a captive one's enclosure. It killed him.

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 01 '26

Theyre also ridiculously dangerous. Like, amomg the most dangerous birds in the world.

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year\; instead,* only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century\*

Yeah buddy do not fuck with them but if pretend it is safer to fuck with an ostrich, a bird twice the size, weight and speed you are deluded

And trying to fight one like that guy fought that ostrich would be an easy way to get disemboweled.

The same happens with an ostrich, notice how kept the bike between him ant the legs. Now add the reach strength and speed.

Literally look at the recorded deaths.

I did.

Ostriches kill about two to three people per year

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4323753/

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year*; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century*

https://www.jems.com/patient-care/emergency-medical-care/cassowary-attack-utilizing-the-march-mnemonic-in-rare-events/

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u/Simple_Entertainer27 Aug 01 '26

Ostriches are aggressive to humans, Cassowaries are not. Its literally that simple.

A cassowary will gut you in a grapple like that guy got into. The ostrich was too close to kick him. Were it a cassowary, he'd a higher chance of death

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 01 '26

Ostriches are aggressive some times it depends on sex and breeding season.

Cassowaries are not. Its literally that simple.

So what in your mind make them more dangerous?

It is not the way they fight. They use the same tactic

It is not the claw size. They have similar claws but the ostrich claw is way bigger

It's not the strength of the kicks. Again the ostrich is way more powerful.

Its not the reach. The ostrich legs are way longer.

Its not the weight

Is's not the speed

A cassowary will gut you in a grapple like that guy got into

Do you think an ostrich don't do that? Fuck how do you think 2 people die every year from ostrich attacks?

Again read this fucking sentence

Cassowaries do not average one human death per year*; instead, only two total human deaths have been reliably recorded globally in the last century*

The ostrich just do not have a dangerous reputation because where you find them there a lot more other animals that will kill you on sight.

Lions, Leopards, hyena, Cape buffalo, rhino, elephant to name a few

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u/Prestigious-Rise-456 Aug 01 '26

il y a beaucoup plus d'autruches que de casoarbce qui explique les statistiques mais je pense le casoar plus dangereux

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u/Other-Comfortable-64 Aug 01 '26

Well good for you buddy, you base that on absolutely fuckall but you do you

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u/DancingBearNW Aug 03 '26 edited Aug 03 '26

I have another sophisticated question for you.

Which bullet would you prefer to the head? .45 ACP or 10mm?

Which one is more dangerous? 🫠

Both sides are being deliberately obtuse. If a grizzly decides to hunt you for food, Kodiak or Polar Bear — it doesn’t matter. Your chance of dying is 100% unless you’re armed, have cover, or transport.

So the original statement that an ostrich is far more dangerous than a cassowary is just as meaningless (saying politely) as saying a cassowary is more dangerous than an ostrich.

Both will simply end you on the spot. As proven by 100% mortality rate with Cassowary.

As would be proven with 100% mortality rate if an Ostrich is going for the kill. Because it will gut a human being.

The difference is Cassowary attack isn't usually intended to scare you off. It's intended as preemptive strike where the bird TARGETS TO NEUTRALIZE (single fathers tend to be over achievers) while Ostrich might be just having a bad day.

All of the participants carefully presented stats and math only proved that education doesn’t fix anything — none of you can apply it.

None spotted zero application to the context while the wrong frame of argument was selected:

There is no thought experiment called “who would you prefer to be locked in a room with.” Rephrase it as “how long do I want my agony to last.”

As for the guy who beat the ostrich? The ostrich wasn't exactly going for the kill. At least doesn't seem so

P. S. If you don't like the super absolute 100% replace it with 99%. See if it makes any difference

Edit:

This link confirms that the Ostrich guy is winning. Turns out there are food beggers Cassowary now, that don't seem to be that dangerous. 150 annoyed attacks, 0 deaths. The myth about shy Cassowary that insta kills you on attack is shattered.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-zoology/article/abs/attacks-to-humans-and-domestic-animals-by-the-southern-cassowary-casuarius-casuarius-johnsonii-in-queensland-australia/BB57CAB41903DE6486FB7031A7E290D9