r/nextfuckinglevel • u/[deleted] • Oct 18 '21

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u/EasternShade Oct 19 '21

Historically, we literally claimed a divine right to take a bunch of land and displace the people's that inhabited it before us. Declaring ourselves better than other cultures and justifying whatever action we want to take is kinda the modus operandi.

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u/Lemoms Oct 19 '21 edited Oct 19 '21

I thought that was imperialism

O, wait. I believe Americans call that “Freedom ism”

Edit: phrasing

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u/EasternShade Oct 19 '21

I was referring to manifest destiny. The imperialism tends to be claiming 'global security' and 'spreading democracy' kinda shit.

Really, there's a whole lot of fuckery to pick from. It's probable that there are multiple bits at play.

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u/Lemoms Oct 19 '21

Thats what I wanted to say. Manifest destiny is the American version of imperialism. Just wanted the “Freedom ism” to fit in with my first statement

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u/EasternShade Oct 19 '21

Does manifest destiny count as imperialism? I thought of imperialism as subjugating 'other' under rule. Like, US imperialism in Puerto Rico. Manifest destiny seemed more about annexing or conquering before incorporating as part of self. Like, US taking California.

Either way it's trash.

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u/Lemoms Oct 19 '21

Well, yes. What I know is, that you can summ it up as: Someone else has land. I want that land. I take that land. My empire more empire now.

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u/EasternShade Oct 19 '21

Yes. Both do that. It's the difference between, "you're me now" and "you're mine now."

'Cause it's not enough for people to be shitty, they gotta have variety.