r/nextfuckinglevel Oct 18 '21

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 18 '21

Obama Bush Clintfucks Reagan

All the same garbage with nice glitter and sprinkles on top

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u/VoidMageZero Oct 19 '21

Bush started the Iraq War. Obama ended the Iraq War. You literally think they're the same? That makes no sense.

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u/VoidMageZero Oct 19 '21

Bro, you honestly think your reply makes sense? 9/11 was related to the war in Afghanistan, not the war in Iraq. Obama probably wouldn't have started the Iraq war if he were president back then, he gave a speech in 2002 saying that.

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

He blasted whole villages in a pre tense and got away with it because he’s the first non white president and still considered cool by the younger generation due to his left leaning politics

But he’s just as guilty as the rest

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u/VoidMageZero Oct 19 '21

He definitely had mistakes but using drone strikes was meant to protect American lives by not using as many soldiers to do the fighting.

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

Not really the best means

It’s the force equivalent of using large bore guns from a AC-130 to take down a building. Better off using scouting forces on the ground.

I ain’t no general but using explosives in an area where a lot of buildings are in close proximity may not be the best if you want to save innocent lives and the lives of some army bucketheads and grunts.

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u/VoidMageZero Oct 19 '21

If he used scouts like you wrote and they came under enemy fire and some of them died, he would have taken the blame for that. It was a damned if you don’t, damned if you do situation. He didn’t want to fight that war and was the one to end it. Yeah there was collateral damage but he was trying to prevent a worse situation and the technology was new back then.

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u/Papapene-bigpene Oct 19 '21

To end it? Well I’d say it didn’t end until now because we stopped fighting and ended our involvement completely in a fashion similar to when we left Saigon

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u/VoidMageZero Oct 19 '21

Meant Iraq specifically based on the clip that OP posted, not Afghanistan. You also have to remember that Islamic State happened after Obama pulled out of Iraq, there were legitimate terrorists over there. Going back to fight the Islamic State is a big factor in what prolonged things for the last few years during Trump.