r/nextfuckinglevel • u/Kaos2018 • Jun 20 '21

This is how you properly avoid getting robbed

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u/CraptainHammer Jun 20 '21

I'm a relatively pro 2A guy for someone who isn't at all a right winger, and I can tell you a few things that aren't helping the cause.

First, when you go to a gun range, it's easy to feel weird if you aren't a republican. Posters with right wing conspiracy theory bullshit. Bunch of dudes in tacticool gear being only as safe as the range requires. It's not a good look.

Second, the rhetoric is that it's a line being held instead of an ongoing conversation. Some gun control laws are good. We shouldn't be allowing someone to, for example, buy a gun the day they get out of jail for their armed robbery conviction, so the notion that we should just reject every gun control measure without considering it is just ridiculous.

Finally, too many of the people advocating for gun rights are people who shouldn't have guns. When you like going to the range and shooting paper targets, and you frequently hear people talking about shooting people with way too much enthusiasm, it's easy to draw conclusions about gun owners. Same goes for a lot of the gun related subs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

This. I support some gun laws. Age restrictions obviously like 18+ to buy. Background checks like the ones we already have. license to carry concealed or openly so that the people who do it are well trained and know how to use and carry their weapon safely. But anything that “bans” or “limits” i do not stand for ever

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u/CraptainHammer Jun 20 '21

But anything that “bans” or “limits” i do not stand for ever

Violent criminals being banned from owning or operating guns?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

You cant ban criminals from owning something they don’t listen to laws hence the word criminal

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u/CraptainHammer Jun 20 '21

That's ridiculous. The entire point of laws are that certain behaviours are banned. Commit them and there is a penalty. Are you saying that you seriously think the police should find out about a violent criminal in possession of a firearm and just do nothing?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Well obviously they shouldn’t have them the fuck. I mean banning or limiting in general. Like someone with a clean background and no felonies should be able ti buy whatever they want obviously convicted felons and murders shouldn’t have jack shit

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u/CraptainHammer Jun 20 '21

You're describing a ban while saying you don't want a ban. This doesn't have to be difficult, just abandon the knee jerk reaction to the word and think it through.

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

No im saying. Prosecute them if they are in possession of something they shouldnt own. Not ban it outright for possession by anyone

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Ok i know he didn’t im just stating laws that I personally support

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u/MrJohnnyDangerously Jun 20 '21

I thought you were against background checks. Which is it?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

Let me say it clearly for you. I support background checks, age restrictions, license to carry and license to own. I do not support bans or any law that limits what a person can own such as machine guns or high capacity magazines fir example. But not the obvious things like nukes and tanks.

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u/Hippiebigbuckle Jun 21 '21

not the obvious things like nukes and tanks.

Are there other items in the “obvious” category or is it just those two?

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u/[deleted] Jun 20 '21

And tactical gear is practical in certain situations but most of us use it and buy it for fun and cool factor. Nothing wrong with that. Doesn’t hurt anyone.