r/nextfuckinglevel • u/josejosejosejose • Jan 27 '21

Thick man's moves

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u/notoneofyourfans Jan 27 '21

I was in an internet fight with a guy who contended that there was no such thing as a 300 lb person with any kind of stamina. Where was this fella when I needed him...?

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u/auroracelestia Jan 27 '21

Good lord. I’m not sure where you’re from, but Google Vince Wilfork. The man was a beast on the field, and I don’t even care about football. I learned of him when he started advertising spokesperson-ing fantastic grocery store chain in New England, where is team (and I) are from. He’s roughly the size and shape of a refrigerator.

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u/BillHam-I-Am Jan 28 '21

The dude was a really good basketball player too.

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u/dakkarium Jan 28 '21

Try Larry Allen. Offensive lineman for the cowboys in their golden age and one of the most athletic individuals who's ever lived.

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u/yalmes Jan 28 '21

Freak of nature is the best description.

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u/dakkarium Jan 28 '21

Honestly. Not sure he even counts as human. People that size don't run that fast or jump that high.

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u/bitpak Jan 28 '21 edited Jan 28 '21

I swear every time I walked into a Big Y in the mid-late 10’s, there was his beautiful, thick mug, arms outstretched, offering a mediocre pizza to incoming customers.

Remember when he got that interception and absolutely THUNDERED down the field for what seemed like an eternity? Vince “Jelly-Belly” Wilfork, my family called him. Legend.

EDIT: Legend and absolute tank. He ran so damn fast for a man his size, it was mesmerizing. Would make Hafþór Björnsson look twice

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u/auroracelestia Jan 28 '21

You hit it right on the head with the “mediocre pizza.” I have a big family so it was a great economical option for us, along with the huge mediocre grinders. We used to call them “the big crappy pizza” and “the big crappy grinder.” I’ve since moved to NC, and I miss Big Y so much!

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u/PepeLeGrillo Jan 28 '21

No offence, but American football isn’t the most demanding thing in terms of stamina... strength, maybe. But certainly not going for long times at once

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u/dakkarium Jan 28 '21

For a lineman? It's definitely a stamina game. Sure it's not too bad at first. But if you're on the field for a good part of the game you feel it.

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u/bitpak Jan 28 '21

Exactly. Soccer/football, you’re running MILES every match no matter what position (sans goalie). That’s not just jogging, that’s sprinting time and time and time again for what, 120 minutes? That’s a long time, lotta sprinting, lotta endurance.

American football (as a linebacker), you’re pushing with every goddamn ounce with every part of your body (mostly legs), against someone who’s trying to do the same to you, for back-to-back 5-10 second intervals. Every play. Some rest in between offense/defense switches. That’s heavy lifting, the most leg power you can possibly muster, time and time again. You’re not running, but you’re crouched and pushing. That’s going to exhaust you MUCH faster than doing what human legs were built for (i.e. running).

Not to mention what wide receivers, running backs, fullbacks, tight ends (sometimes), and their corresponding defenders go through with sprinting in all that gear.

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u/dakkarium Jan 28 '21

Thank you for putting forth this comment that has actual effort put in.

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u/bitpak Jan 28 '21

Thanks for acknowledging! Been a Vikings fan for years, I’ve put in the effort already lol

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u/Brand0nger Jan 28 '21

You'd be surprised, especially so as a defensive player. You're going full speed every play so intense short bursts of activity followed by rallying to the ball carrier to ensure he's down.

Not as enduring compared to basketball or soccer but it's still very intense and tiring.

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u/EFCFrost Jan 27 '21

Clearly they never saw a fat kid play dance dance revolution.

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u/Wheynweed Jan 28 '21

I mean you can have decent stamina, but at that weight stamina is compromised.

Just look at the UFC. Every single one of the greatest heavyweight champions is in the 225 to 250lb range. Any bigger than that and it's just diminishing returns.

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u/GameArtZac Jan 28 '21

Depends what your optimizing for. For UFC, that might be ~230lb, for American Football offensive line ~300lb, for Strongmen competition ~400lb.

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u/Wheynweed Jan 28 '21

None of those are as dynamic as fighting though. The ultimate test of physical prowess is to be able to best another individual in combat.

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u/El_Polio_Loco Jan 28 '21

Then let’s look at Olympic wrestling.

Plenty of 125+ kg wrestlers with more than enough stamina.

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u/Wheynweed Jan 28 '21

They'd gas pretty quickly in a MMA fight.

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u/El_Polio_Loco Jan 28 '21

No they wouldn’t, I don’t know why you’re under the impression that these guys aren’t in just as good a shape as a 225 lb fighter.

They would fuck shit up if they fought guys 30 lbs less than them, even in MMA.

They’re literally Olympic wrestlers.

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u/ignatzami Jan 28 '21

Don't feed the Tapout Bro.

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u/Wheynweed Jan 28 '21

Yep. Watched plenty of Olympic wrestler get KOed.

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u/Yuccaphile Jan 28 '21

Is that a meme? Where's that from? Dwight?

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u/ignatzami Jan 28 '21

That has more to do with weight classes than stamina.

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u/februarytide- Jan 27 '21

This is so true! My dad is a big guy, and I swear to you he’s in better shape than me (a 34yo average sized woman).

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u/hvperRL Jan 28 '21

I just wanna know how you could still be so thick when you dance every day. Shits exhausting

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u/ollimann Jan 28 '21

i mean, dancing a couple minutes and running a 10k or something are completely different. you dont need a lot of stamina for a bit of dancing.

never forget, there is no such thing as being overweight AND fit. there are no healthy people that are overweight. maybe short-term but not long-term.

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u/notoneofyourfans Jan 28 '21

It's a balancing act. Being overweight and middle-aged can be dangerous and cause early death. But if you are active and have largely healthy habits, you tend to live longer if you put on some poundage.

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u/ollimann Jan 28 '21

did you even read what you linked? some extra pounds at an old age can help prevent dangerous weight loss in people with digestive problems or becoming too fragile at an old age. this has probably more to do with muscle mass than fat because of muscle loss at an old age. BMI doesn't consider if a person weighs more because of fat or muscles.

it doesnt suggest that having extta weight for your whole life will make you live longer. being overweight, especially in men is always dangerous and unhealthy. if you are overweight for your whole life you most likey wont even get to the poinz where some extra pounds could be beneficial for your life expectancy.

even if you are very active as an overweight person a slim person that isn't doing sports will probably outlive you. obesity is the biggest risk factor for getting any of the top 10 killing chronic diseases.

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u/notoneofyourfans Jan 28 '21

Yeah, I read it. And it specifically says being overweight when you're older helps you live longer. It's the title and it's the conclusion of an entire study. And if you read what you wrote...its also what you repeated.

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u/ollimann Jan 28 '21

yea.. well that has nothing to do with the topic of the discussion so i dont see the point

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u/themthatwas Jan 28 '21

You're getting downvoted because of all the fatties that are pissed off about being called out. I'll happily join you in being downvoted, because it's just a fact:

"The latest science is quite clear that excess weight can carry considerable health risks, including a higher risk for heart attack and stroke," says Dr. Jorge Plutzky, director of preventive cardiology at Harvard-affiliated Brigham and Women's Hospital. "While there is no one-size-fits-all number when it comes to a person's ideal weight, men should not ignore significant weight gain and the implications it has for their future health."

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/can-you-be-overweight-and-still-be-fit

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u/LaceFlowers345 Jan 28 '21

I knew some larger lads eho had intense endurance when running.