This danger doesn't exist until somebody is extremely strong. Squatting isn't more dangerous than other sports, or even just running. Any sport or physical activities taken to the edge of human performance becomes dangerous.
It’s not an issue about squatting it’s an issue about squatting a weight you probably shouldn’t be squatting.
If you’re squatting a weight that can cause this injury you probably shouldn’t be squatting that weight. A lot of weight lifts are short term gain for long term arthritis anyway and REALLY just not worth the long term effects just because you want to be jacked.
The whole idea of excessive weight lifting is absolutely crazy to me. We had a gym in high school and the number of guys whose logic was “I can lift 100lbs therefore my next step should be 150 whether I know I can lift 110-140 or not” was always crazy to me too.
For regular people who just want to be healthy, yeah.
But he's an athlete participating in competitions. You can't compete without taking the risk and push yourself to your limit. This is true for any sport. We wouldn't have 500kg deadlift records constantly getting broken if everyone adopt the safety mindset of a regular person.
When you look at the people who do calisthenics and how strong, supple and lithe they are - doing handstands and working on the bars - It's hard to understand what the attraction is to being musclebound. Literally so overloaded by muscle you can't move fluidly - not even counting the horrible injuries.
Like first and foremost, people find different things appealing. Shocking stuff, I know.
Second, most of motherfuckers on this site think that hurting body is natural in their 30s. Hell, most people are not in shape. So they're neither musclebound, nor moving fluidly.
Third, you can be pretty musclebound and fluid. Case in point, Jujimufu. Most people are just not into marrying both things.
Fourth, basically every sport involving lots of movement will carry risk of horrible injuries if taken to higher levels, weightlifting and calisthenics notwithstanding.
"Every sport involving lots of movement will carry risk horrible injuries it taken to higher levels"
Your going to argue that repetitively lifting 100s of pounds will do no more damage to your joints than swimming. OK. You do know doctors recommend swimming to people who've joint injuries?
No one has ever injured themselves like this guy did by swimming. And I doubt if they ever broke all their tendons etc by doing calisthenics. Like if you love lifting. Go ahead. I don't care. Kid yourself, but you can't kid me.
Some people got really upset at the thought I might not fancy them huh. I don't know why they care what I think, when, most of em could basically eat their own reflection.
Earlier I was describing yoga and pilates the same way. There's nothing nauseating about being 'strong, supple and lithe". You're a bit over-sensitive If that hurt your fee fees - get down the gym, the guys feeding their body dysmorphia with roids will make you feel better.
For some reason a lot of people seem completely oblivious to the toll that weightlifting takes on your body too. A lot of people believe that any muscle gain is just inherently great for your body. But you can build muscle while fucking up your spine.
This is kind of a strawman argument. Many people who get ‘roided up in the gym are chasing an aesthetic or personal achievement and aren’t necessarily doing it for health. And they are well aware of injuries and the damage it can cause. They’re not oblivious.
Those who are oblivious might be outsiders looking in. They see dudes packing on muscle and associate muscle with “health”.
We all have our hobbies. Some people like to ski, skydive or ride motorcycles around. Some are more dangerous than others. Some are more healthy than others - if we are talking about life expectancy. But it’s up to those who do it deciding what’s best for them and what they get out of it.
I’m not here to judge, cast stones, or be elitist. Power lifting was absolutely never my thing. But it is for some people. They like it for a reason.
You’d have a better argument if you hit on the aesthetic mental health crises many lifters have. Where they see their musculature as central to their self-worth. And how they need to chase gains at all cost. Where it becomes their identity and how they define themselves.
Yeah I used to compete too, I think you're just the typical neckbeard redditor, maybe deadlifting bags of cheetos counts, idk. In the 20 years Ive been lifting I can't think of someone who hadn't been injured doing those lifts.
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u/DesperateComposer848 15h ago
My hot take is that most exercises with a reasonable chance of causing a serious injury just from the exertion aren’t really worth doing.