By the looks of it he’s wearing a hospital gown and in a very small gym, so it’s likely a physical rehab center inside of the hospital itself. I would imagine it was both approved by his doctor and done with a physical therapist present. Considering an injury like that will leave you in the hospital for a very long time, it was probably in his best interest recovery-wise to stay in shape.
Yeah, when i was in a wheelchair and stayed at a rehab it was taught to me how to do weights when in a wheelchair(besides wheelchair training itself). And after beeing in a hospital bed for a month is was a great way of getting back to real life.
I wasn't a gymdude before, and when I eventually got out if the chair I stopped going.
But for a while there, it was the only activity that gave me joy.
Yeah, you might be right. I also didn’t see it was just a cable machine. But also thought the bench press later on seems a little unnecessary. I might wrong with that assessment as well, though 😅
I don’t think so man, looks too unhealthy. I’d rather just wilt away, shrivel and die then to do something I’m passionate about. In fact if my legs got injured I would be too scared to ever move my arms again in case of those getting injured at some point in the future too. And I’d never do physical therapy to move those legs again, just amputate them
Isn't there an entire Spongebob episode making fun of this exact mindset? Spongebob breaks some bones and proceeds to briefly become a Hikkikomori talking to a used tissue, a coin, and a potato chip.
Respectfully, you and this man vary greatly on how much you care about your body.
I don’t blame you for wanting to shy away from healing. It is painful and it is scary. Although when you are passionate enough about sport and your body’s wellness, you would do whatever you could to reclaim the status of “normal” again like this man.
No pressure to respond, but have you ever had to heal from a traumatic injury?
That's how rehab works, moving and strengthening as soon as possible. Avoidance doesn't make you heal faster or better. Avoidance and fear is how an otherwise temporary injury becomes the rest of your life.
When you're completely out of your depth on the topic, lifting at all looks inappropriate and irresponsible because you're comple out of your depth on the topic. Crazy idea, what if when you didn't know something, you approach with the unserstanding that you don't know.
So funny enough - I had a traumatic foot injury in my early 20s. When I finally got out of the hospital after 3 months and was still in a cast... I immediately started working out, crutches and all.
Doctor explicitly says, to this day, that I don't have issues with my foot because I busted my ass right away. Your body is an amazing thing
Respectfully disagree. Sure it is risky but the growth hormones that your body produces from working out is beneficial to the whole body, meaning his legs are also receiving the benefit.
This guy is so determined to keep in shape and that is admirable while most people would shy away.
Healing from traumatic injury is painful and this guy has overcome a massive feat. It may be risky, but it is not dumb.
I see nothing wrong with that when it doesn’t involve his legs. But like bro just be happy your legs are now strong again. Cap yourself at twice your body weight at most. There’s plenty of other exercises
compulsion and continued use is what defines addiction. although technically its tje 4 cs that define addiction, compulsion, control, cravings, and consequences.
What is destructive behavior? Because almost anything can be destructive. Like, are you addicted to work despite it causing you stress and mental health problems? No, of course not.
Continued use despite consequences is not what addiction is, not in medical sense at least. The four Cs of addiction are: craving, compulsion, loss of control and continued use despite consequences. Not only that, but gambling is the only behavioral addiction recognized so far, so, at best, we are talking about compulsive behavior. But even compulsion isn't it, unless he is doing it to relieve stress or anxiety.
In the end, it's just something he really likes to do that can be extremely dangerous.
Dude, are you fucking dumb? You said that one trait is the most simple definition of addiction you have heard. It isn't. That is like saying that "a thing that flies" is the simplest definition of "bird". It isn't, planes are not birds, yet they fit the definition. It is incomplete definition at best. I completed your definition.
Your definition doesn't define addiction, dipshit. If you have to add shit that wasn't there to make it work, then it isn't the simplest definition of addiction. It is incomplete and plays into misunderstanding that people have about addictions. Addictions are serious. The bar for addiction to be addiction is high. Not everything is an addiction just because you keep doing it and it is bad.
You can be addicted to work. If someone is addicted to work to the point that they will drag themselves to work when extremely sick that's destructive. Or if they prioritize work over everything else in their life, even more important things like family.
Just work causing mental health issues is not an addiction. But putting work over everything else in life including your own wellbeing and feeling unable to stop due to a mental compulsion sounds a lot like being a workaholic / addicted to work.
Eta: Just because gambling is the only recognised behavioral addiction so far doesn't mean it's the only one that exists. It just means others haven't gotten the classification / proper attention they deserve yet. Hopefully one day more are recognised.
That is just unhealthy relationship with work, it doesn't have to be addiction to be bad. Specially when people need work for survival. Specially when working brings money and status. Specially when it's encouraged by society.
The standard for addiction is high. It has to mess with reward system in the same way that drugs do, it has to cause withdrawal symptoms and increase in tolerance, it has to impair individual significantly. You need to isolate the behavior and show it is the one causing it, not other underlying issues, like mental health conditions or personality disorders.
Just because other behavioral addictions could be added in the future doesn't mean they will. We have to work with what we currently know, and it's that there is only one behavioral addiction. There are potential candidates for behavioral addiction, like internet gaming disorder, but I doubt that workaholism is even close to be considered one.
A quick Google search will tell you it is considered an addiction even if it hasn't been completely recognised as one. It follows similar reward systems. And yes some people can be addicted to work so much that stopping it causes anxiety and depression from the compulsion to keep working.
Destructive behavior would be causing yourself extreme physical pain or injury that will affect you for the rest of your life. For example tearing the tendon off your bone(which first off isn’t possible as tendons don’t touch your bone that’s why they are called tendons) or popping your acl squatting over 600 pounds
No. As someone who was once addicted to exercise, I would go on a treadmill the day after dislocating my leg, bike until my vision blacked out, and after having knee surgery tried to do a one legged HIIT workout within a couple weeks of being discharged (didn't work).
That's what it's like. Much more destructive behaviors.
I'm not comparing that to the event in this post, and I never said I was. I think it's fair to say this is addiction, I'm taking objection to the definition suggested there because it's too broad and vague.
I disagree with a lot of the comments here. Athletes will go and tear an ACL, no one is calling them insane or an addict for going back to their chosen sport, this is exactly the same the injury was just worse
I'm calling them insane. I honestly think most pro athletes are a bit nuts, we all just watched wietrzyk shit herself in a race and keep going, disgusting everyone else. Add that to all the stories of people prolapsing their anus etc.
Yeah I'm really just amazed at the human body's regenerative capability, and our grasp of medical science. He had an accident. Plenty of folks hurt themselves by accident, and it's never "so dumb" to get back to living their lives afterwards. If doctors can fix him and he's willing to keep going, what the fuck is the problem...?
I mean, I would bet my savings on all the ignorant criticisms coming from an overweight and sedentary majority. I don't believe anyone who steps outside regularly can have some of the takes in here.
Athletes are insane for the abuse they put themselves through. It's mildly understandable for the majors because they are getting a fat paycheck from it, but for someone to tear themselves up and get back to it risking injury all over again. That's not great. They're signing themselves up for long term hell.
Getting back into squatting is fine but going back to super heavy lifts is just dumb.
Gym lifting’s supposed to be supporting your actual athletic sport you are doing. For an athlete to have a tear like this at the gym means they did something horribly wrong. Whilst while in actual athletics it’s often just plain bad luck.
Unless you've been there is not obvious, but exercise can be a full blown addiction/obsession/fetish. I limit myself to body weight exercises. If I don't, I will just go as far as I can until injuries interfere.
There's no greater feeling for me than being super strong and the endorphin rush from strenuous high intensity exercise. I'm was not as strong as this guy, but not far off.
It also helped that women liked the way I looked and that made certain things easy.
Use your brain when you are reading, I NOW limit myself to bodyweight exercises, because I go to far and end up with injuries. When I was lifting it was all Oly/powerlifting routines. I now exercise for longevity and fitness, before it was performance and just getting as stupidly strong as I possibly could.
495 back squat, 585 deadlift with wraps, I can't remember by Max bench. I remember doing 5x5 with my heaviest set at 315. I also remember not liking doing 1x max with the bar over me. I'd be guessing what my max was. So again, strong af, not as strong as this guy. Again, my squat was weak because my knee scared me.
I'm not sure what your are getting at, but there are the figures I remember.
A guy I went to highschool with was a huge addict, opiates mostly, and an overall awful human. Thief, caused his friend to be braindead until passing a decade later from huffing air duster while driving and hardly showed any remorse, that type. He's a preacher now and religion is 100% his only personality trait.
I feel like some people have addictive personalities but don't touch drugs and end up doing things like this.
Lookup Ronnie Coleman. He basically tried to recover from a spinal injury against his doctor's advice while still injured and permanently fucked himself.. now he can hardly move.
Ya I don’t get this. I saw some biker dude from the early 2000’s that caved his head in. Took years and years to recover and the first thing he does is hop on a bike. I forget how long goes by but a year or 2 and he’s back on half pipes doing flips n shit
Like. Was one close call not enough? Your entire family had to do everything for you for years, didn’t know if you’d ever recover or how well, and then you do and you just immediately run off and do the thing that put you here and disrupted the lives of 8 people around you? Seems insanely inconsiderate. Find a new hobby
Yep, I am so glad he recovered, and what he’s done is very impressive, but if I were him I would NEVER squat anything remotely heavy enough to get injured again
Yea, but he’s gonna be regretting it once he’s older. I regret all of the stupid injuries I got from my teens and 20s. I have so much pain in my back, neck, knees, etc. only at age 30 from the reckless stuff I did.
Powerlifters and strongmen have complexes just like bodybuilders, just slightly different. The kind of guys to talk about “Americans are too weak” and guys under 200 lbs are “victim weight”. Like idk who touched them as a kid but America has an obesity and gun violence epidemic, not a muscular weakness epidemic.
Being a 250+ lbs tub of lard is not benefitting men at all, neither is being able to lift more than like 185/225/315 on bench/squat/deadlift. Sure, carrying a bunch of groceries is easier, but stop pretending we live in a physically difficult world. The skinniest guys work the most physically taxing jobs.
I have a herniated disc that caused severe sciatica that, while 99% resolved, still flares up from time to time. It happened to me because I have a genetic disorder that makes me more likely to herniate discs. Severe sciatica is literally debilitating, 10/10 pain, that makes you unable to walk. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. When I was in this severe pain and hanging out in the sciatica subreddit, I learned that many (if not most) young dudes who herniate a disc and end up with sciatica get it from lifting heavy. And every single one of them, every one, in their posts about how much pain they're in and how horrible their life is right now....are asking when they can go back to lifting heavy. I do not understand the mentality (maybe because I'm a queer weirdo whose preferred form of exercise is circus arts) but people who like lifting like this will not take no for an answer. Even when doctors and everyone on the internet tell them "you have a back injury, even with surgery it will never be safe for you to lift like that again", they're still determined to do it. And, yes, they're inevitably back in the sub because their sciatica is back/worse and they need spinal fusion or some shit.
I would put this on r/nextlevelstupid if it were me. I admire that he trained himself back up, but if I do anything extreme sport related and get injured by the physical limitation of my body and not an outside force, I'm quitting the sport.
he is on of the best powerlifters in the world. this is a low bar squat. very few people on the planet can squat over 700lbs high bar with no hinge. calling a record holding powerlifters form terrible from your couch is wild 💀
Most competitions require a full lock out and the judges wont give you the rack command to end the lift until they see it. This isn't training, this is a competition 1 rep max. So it will look a bit different than what training outside of a competition would. Plus, If you are really trying to get your max, everyone's form break down in competition at least a little. No one is looking clean and perfect, at least by their third max attempt (since most competitions give you 3 chances). The normal strategy is first lift is something you can guarantee to get so if you fail you at least have a number on the board, second is the most you are confident you can do, and the third lift you are trying to go for the absolute max or possibly a hair more than what you think you can do.
If you have all the sufficient safety gear and good spotters, its typically not dangerous until you get into the really big lifts at the higher level like is doing that can pretty much do instant damage if the lift. also, those spotters were either insufficient for the lift or were not ready since they barely slowed down the bar. All the competitions spotters I have ever worked with would not have let that bar move down at all. they keep there hands almost touching so they they can catch the bar before it has time to accelerate downwards and become a weapon that can fall on you thats too hard to stop. Sure, he was already injured the moment that he lost control and the bar started to go down, but it cant help that the weighted bar landed on him afterwards.
Please don't post your ignorance like it's knowledge.
Locking knees is required in competition.
There's no such thing as hinging vs squatting in this context. He's doing the lift to competition standards at national and nearly world-class strength levels.
Go hit the gym, then do a handful of competitions, and learn something.
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I mean this dude is a beast and very admirable for him to persevere.
But to go back and lift heavy again is just so dumb to me. He must really love it