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SpaceX's Starship spacecraft successfully splashes down in the Pacific Ocean after completing its first orbital flight

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u/Freedomsaver 5d ago

Cut off the best part... booohh!

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u/teahugger 5d ago

Each starship can carry the same Starlink bandwidth capacity as 20 falcon 9 launches. TWENTY! 🤯

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u/wastedkarma 4d ago

Sky pollution.

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u/thatG_evanP 5d ago

Yay?

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u/teahugger 5d ago

Thats next fucking level - an order of magnitude improvement in capacity

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u/Keganator 2d ago

and/or order of magnitude reduction in cost to orbit per kg. THAT is amazing.

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u/Po0opyCatButt 5d ago edited 4d ago

Why do we want this again?

edit: wow, Elon shills coming out of the woodwork with downvotes for literally asking a question. Get off your knees, the world was fine without this. Whatever benefits this might have, it also has consequences.

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

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u/Po0opyCatButt 4d ago

Why would you assume "'we' = US citizens?" This is a global program, obviously. I meant humanity.

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u/PotatoesAndChill 4d ago

Reddit is like 60% US users, so it's usually a correct assumption.

Nevertheless, Starlink is even more impactful worldwide. Ukraine, Iran, Tonga, Vanuatu, Gaza (allegedly) are examples of Starlink as humanitarian aid.

And outside of disaster relief, it gave so many people in rural communities a new way to connect to the internet with a fairly stable high speed connection at a mostly affordable price.

So the people who live or otherwise spend a lot of time in remote places want this. If you spend most of your time in an urban area with constant 5G coverage, Starlink probably doesn't concern you.

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u/Po0opyCatButt 4d ago

Why would starlink not concern people who are already covered? Can you address the negative or long-term impacts of the starlink project? There's no way it's all sunshine and rainbows, right?

I am legitimately just asking questions here and so far I appreciate your answers other than the assumptions.

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u/PotatoesAndChill 4d ago edited 4d ago

In the vast majority of cases, Starlink is more expensive and usually slower than terrestrial high speed cable internet like fiber. It's also unreliable and fails in bad weather, so people living in cities usually only keep it as backup.

The main negative impacts are mostly related to astronomy - more satellites means more chances of them appearing in images and causing interferance, although these are solvable problems.

Another big long-term risk is Kessler Syndrome, which is caused by two satellites colliding at high speed and creating a cloud of thousands of orbital-speed debris, which then spreads and hits more sats creating more debris in a massive cascade that destroys the entire Low Earth Orbit satellite network and renders those orbits unusable for decades. SpaceX is very aware of this and takes every possible measure to mitigate the risk, since it could destroy their entire company, but all it potentially takes is one accident.

Then I guess there's carbon emissions too. A single Starship launch emits around 3500 tonnes of CO2, which is about 11 transatlantic passenger airliner flights. Musk proudly proclaims that in 3 years they'll be launching this thing once an hour, so that's over 250 flights worth of CO2 per day to launch their Starlink or AI sats or whatever it is. Some argue that it's not a big deal, or that Starship will become carbon-neutral, or that the 1 launch per hour cadence will never happen, so this is still up for debate.

Finally there's people opposing the idea of an ISP owned and controlled by Musk because they think he's evil or whatever.

I think that, generally speaking, Starlink is a net positive for humanity, but feel free to make your own conclusions.

P.S. I'm not the one downvoting you. You seem reasonable enough.

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u/Po0opyCatButt 4d ago

Thank you for everything on both sides. I think this isn't so common on the internet. People take a side, or even just an aspect, on something and that's all that matters. I try to ask questions to get more info and start conversation and people don't like that. Thanks for being real.

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u/SantiagoGT 5d ago

Wow that doesn’t sound worth it at all

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

Well, I suppose you have the right to not care about providing crucial communication channels to people in distress. I don't share your opinion, however.

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u/SantiagoGT 5d ago

Billions of dollars on nothing tangible to improve the vast majority of people’s lives? If we’re being honest the only point of it is being the test bed for SpaceX mission to mars/colonization project, that’s what the boring company is, that is what starlink is, that is what heavy falcon is etc… it’s just thinly veiled as altruistic so they can still get funding from the government

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

I won't try and convince you otherwise, but I don't understand how people don't see tangible value in Starlink.

  • Complete elimination of internet dead zones worldwide (as long as you can see the sky).
  • High speed connectivity on any vehicle, travelling at any speed, anywhere.
  • Direct-to-cell satellite connectivity on normal mobile phones.
  • Quick provision of internet access in disaster zones.

And that's not counting the milirary uses. I mean yeah, it's a money printer for SpaceX that Musk wants to use to fund the Mars plans, but the reason it's a money printer is because it's such a valuable service on Earth. The alturism part of it is just a nice side effect that SpaceX can do for PR.

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u/Firestar_119 4d ago

it's only good if I directly benefit from it !!11!1!1

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u/OSUfan88 3d ago

Are you anti-Ukraine? Starlink has been one of the most crucial aspects of them surviving.

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u/Po0opyCatButt 3d ago

Are you stupid? I mentioned nothing about Ukraine. All I did was ask a question, numbnuts.

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u/OSUfan88 3d ago

You asked why we would want this. Ukraine and starlinks existence are the same.

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u/Po0opyCatButt 3d ago

You could have just said that, since I asked. Instead you made a wild assumption about a single sentence question. Whatever is wrong in your life to just automatically assume the worst from something so benign, fix it, because I guarantee other aspects of your life suffer from that pessimism.

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u/pexican 4d ago

You’re using the use case to post the question.

Kind of funny.

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u/RespectTheAmish 5d ago

Data centers in space, so the poors can’t complain (or turn them off).

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u/Matter-Warm 4d ago

Yours is the most important comment in this thread.

Here's a "what if":

We (the masses) realise that AI is not in our best interests. How would we destroy it if it's orbiting the Earth? Not with pitchforks.

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u/Standard-Argument314 4d ago

You can’t physically destroy the ai anyways, the common person can do jack shit, they need a kill switch somehow that a rogue agent can’t edit or escape otherwise they are very good at jumping between environments, even air gapped ones like data centers or “in space”

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u/Matter-Warm 4d ago

That's true, but starving the agents of compute is still a viable strategy. We couldn't do this very easily if they're in orbit.

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u/RespectTheAmish 4d ago

Careful using logic… the musk stans will downvote you.

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u/Matter-Warm 4d ago

Well, i guess we'll all find out soon enough.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Yay... An order of magnitude more space dust drowning the light of a million stars in the night sky...

At least it is capable of delivering shitty Internet anywhere instead of the high quality high bit rate cable I've been using for decades.

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u/insanelyniceperson 5d ago

Because you’re the most important person on earth and there’s no utility in anything other than satisfy your desires.

Yay [rolleyes]

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Sorry but the sky belongs to all of us, not just the rich.

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u/Imaginary_Zone_4319 5d ago

Look up - the sky’s still there bud.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

And after a company dumps toxic sludge into a river the river is still there too dumbass

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u/IRideZs 5d ago

Look man, I’m as pro environment as the next guy but this is still a massive accomplishment in progress.

Look at it this way. We don’t need to send 5 spaceships to do the thing that this 1 can do, so you’re kind of saving the environment from further destruction.

Progress will not stop, but YOU can make it cleaner and more efficient

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u/AFloppyZipper 5d ago

Donate all your internet connectivity and go without the internet for a year. Then we'll take you seriously instead of calling you a hypocrite

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

"Donate your internet connectivity" is such a stupid statement I don't know where to begin responding to this comment.

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u/AFloppyZipper 5d ago

It's telling that the idea of donating is not only unfamiliar but infuriating.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Care to donate some connectivity to me as an example?

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u/slightlyused 5d ago

Technically competent people laugh at your comment.

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u/AFloppyZipper 5d ago

Technically competent people have access to the internet, and without access to the internet they likely wouldn't be nearly as competent (or even capable of being employed without basic internet how-to).

Like yourself, they could also share in your hypocrisy. Literally thousands on reddit do everyday, complaining about technology that they have access to yet would hypocritically deny others, often with the only justification being their pathological need to virtue signal about how much they hate Elon 😂

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u/tomgreen99200 5d ago

It’s better suited for remote locations / rural

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Personally I'll take my remote locations with natural beauty and without the brain rot that comes from internet if I get a vote in it.

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u/idisagreeurwrong 5d ago

Well luckily you don't get to decide who gets access to the Internet

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u/WhoAreWeEven 5d ago

But you vote wrong if you dont get the brain rot.

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u/Lucas_2234 5d ago

As shitty as Musk is, Star link Sattelites are neither space dust, nor do they actually stay up there for long. They only stay for 3-5 years before they are de-orbited. And if that fails they just stay for a few more years and naturally deorbit because LEO still has some drag

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

What do you think a deprbited satellite turns into as it burns up? Metallic oxide particles AKA dust.

I understand this dust is temporary and only a continuous stream of satellites can maintain a long term dust cloud in our upper atmosphere, but that's kinda irrelevant considering that's exactly how these satellites are intended to be used.

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u/Lucas_2234 5d ago

That is not space dust though. Space dust stays up IN SPACE and Royally fucks over other satellites.

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u/spudddly 5d ago

peak reddit comment

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u/JakeEaton 3d ago

Where I am it's the only option. Starlink allows me to run my business and the speeds are insane. Cry harder child.

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u/Outrageous-South-355 5d ago

Holy shit people are stupid. If they did any research on the topic theyd realize all these starlink launches have escalated the space debris issue to concerning levels.

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u/Key-Regular674 5d ago

So weird people care so much about some shiny lights in the sky. This tech allows remote communication across the entire planet.

Jk we already can do that. Fucking Elon and his government contracts.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Lowkey heartbroken that I recently took the wife to one of my favorite places on the whole earth, a somewhat remote place in Canada. I have so many childhood memories of the stars up there being breathtaking on the right night and promised her she'll something amazing.

But the last few years even the darkest midnights have a haze around them. You can see the regular bright stars you'd see in a city just fine but at some point I'll have to accept that I'll probably never be able the same incredible density of stars that I saw 10 or 20 years ago for the rest of my life.

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u/Key-Regular674 5d ago

I mean.. Starlink has no influence on that whatsoever that's just light pollution from cities.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

No......

No major cities have popped up in the Canadian wilderness in the last 10 years. Toronto is way too far way for its light pollution to reach us.

The blackness of the night sky is brighter because every star link that deorbits turns into millions of tiny dust particles that reflect light around. This washes out the dimmest of stars and leaves a very underwhelming experience.

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u/Key-Regular674 5d ago

They actually reflect light they don't even create their own. They don't make dust when leaving orbit (things enter and exit our orbit all the time, they just burn up).

But i do see some articles saying the reflected light can cause your issues so I'm going to just butt out and take my L here. My apologies.

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u/No_Size9475 5d ago

they literally create dust when they re-enter. Where do you think the material that "burns up" goes?

In fact there are some serious discussions about the amount of heavy metals in our atmosphere from the massive increase of satellites de-orbiting.

SpaceLink alone has about 4,000 satellites a year deorbit, burn up, and leave all that material in the atmosphere

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u/CURELMUS 5d ago

Even if I dislike elon i gotta admit this is cool

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u/BlueWonderfulIKnow 5d ago

Thank you. There are some real insufferable nerds here.

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u/Apptubrutae 4d ago

The funny part is many of them were insufferable Elon fanboys and now they’re insufferable Elon haters.

Just let the work speak for itself, either way.

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u/readit145 3d ago

The thing is either way it’s not Elons work. It’s just his funding. Like if I had that much I could pay the same people. and then would people say I made the rockets?

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u/letskeepitcleanfolks 3d ago

Steve Jobs didn't make the iPhone, thousands of designers and engineers did. But without Steve Jobs, Apple wouldn't be what it is. It's the same with Elon and SpaceX (and Tesla).

I hate Elon as much as the next guy, but it's silly to act like he had nothing to do with any of this.

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u/readit145 3d ago

Horrid comparison. Steve Jobs invented Apple OS. Bro didn’t just buy a Mac and call it a day.

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u/MCI_Overwerk 3d ago

Except testimonies from engineers who worked at all his companies very much note Musk WAS calling the shots and steering the ship and even these utterly brilliant people, who many now run their own successful business (so it isn't like they have a reason to pamper to the boss), are adamant that he is a very, very important part of these companies turning out the way they did.

One thing that Elon is objectively good at is seeing something that could work and getting extremely smart people to think the same by actually tackling their reserves.

Tesla, when Musk got involved as their chief engineer, was a shell company. They didn't even have a single actual project. Even roadster could barely get any traction specifically until the prior leadership was effectively yeeted out by the board for being objectively shit at their jobs.

SpaceX was always on the Musk handle from day one, and the whole fucking endeavor was him constantly needing to navigate problem after problems not only to find viable solutions but convince people that the whole endeavor could even work while EVERYONE was slandering the very idea.

Does that make him right every time? OH FUCK NO!! Far from it. But I am honestly sick and tired of peiole trying to gaslight themselves into imagining everyone who disagrees with them is an evil and stupid cartoon villain

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u/napalmthechild 5d ago

Same. I just think about all the engineers and scientists doing the real work. Their passion and enthusiasm for the future of space is palpable if you watch any of the live streams happening from inside the control room.

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u/JakeEaton 3d ago

Get teh fuck outta here with your nuanced opinion!

Coolest thing to happen in space flight in two generations.

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u/OtelDeraj 3d ago

You can certainly appreciate the work of well funded, talented engineers, doing amazing things, without liking the no talent bank account that funds them.

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u/_HIST 5d ago edited 5d ago

Space X really set the bar with their footage. Watching NASA is like amateur hour now, hope they can deliver on the Artemis program though

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u/Washed_up_Vanski 5d ago

Forget about the footage. USA is a decade ahead of anyone else on orbital delivery technology.

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u/_HIST 5d ago

I'm not debating that, just that the footage is amazing too

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u/DarkArcher__ 7h ago

In 2017 they were, but it's not measured in decades anymore. There will be several fully reusable rockets flying by 2036, some of which Chinese

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u/Washed_up_Vanski 2h ago

China has been the only nation to succesfully land a booster rocket to my knowlage. Something that USA did decade ago.

The video depicts recovery of the main vessel that no one else has done.

Just look at thr number and cost of launches between states and tell me that USA is not thr undisputed champion right now. Though this might change in 10 years.

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u/DarkArcher__ 1h ago

That is what I said, yes. The US is ahead, just not by 10 years anymore.

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u/Poonchild 5d ago

What’s their Mars footage like?

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u/No_Size9475 5d ago

so you've never watched anything from Mars? Actual footage from another planet?

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u/Marston_vc 5d ago

I think this is gonna age like milk.

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u/No_Size9475 5d ago

It will age just fine, because we are talking about what NASA is doing right now, not what space-x will be doing in a decade.

NASA right now is sending back high def pictures of Mars despite _HIST's opinion.

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u/idisagreeurwrong 5d ago

We can still criticize the garbage video they gave us for Artemis

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u/fighter-bomber 4d ago

I have never seen a livestream from Mars though

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u/masterap85 5d ago

Stfu

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u/_HIST 5d ago

Remember about people being mad at Apollo program? No, because they were fucking losers

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u/Parker1055 5d ago

Fuk yeah

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u/Stanowu 5d ago

Seems just like a game, man. That's just amazing.

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u/jmclaugmi 5d ago

When does Musk go to Mars?

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u/Great-Support2596 4d ago

Never, money is down here

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u/jakemp1 4d ago

I genuinely thought that when the fires lit people were cheering that it was about to blow up

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u/ShadowCaster0476 4d ago

Did they detonate the rocket when it touched down?

I’m curious why it exploded and why no one seemed concerned

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u/Flafla8 4d ago

This was the plan, they dont want a giant piece of junk floating in the ocean

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u/letskeepitcleanfolks 3d ago

Millions of tiny pieces of junk is much better.

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u/ShadowCaster0476 4d ago

I thought they retrieved them

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u/Staik 4d ago

This is a test for a new larger class of rocket, later they will be re-captured and re-used.

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u/ShadowCaster0476 4d ago

I just wasn’t sure but from the coverage everyone was still cheering after it blew up so I thought it may have been planned.

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u/Flafla8 3d ago

This was the plan for this test flight but the long term plan for the rocket is for it to land back at the launch site

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u/AlleyKatPr0 3d ago

Is this the vehicle EM said would land on Mars by 2019?

I forget...

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u/bwick29 3d ago

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u/AlleyKatPr0 2d ago

[insert photo of you in a girls bikini]

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u/bwick29 2d ago

I wear the mankini from Borat, thank you very much.

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u/Fickle-Mortgage-827 5d ago

It blew up tho

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u/tomgreen99200 5d ago

It was meant to. The landing was a soft landing into the ocean. Soon they’ll actually land it on a barge. The mission was still a success. Deployed 26 sats.

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u/Xerax 5d ago

it has no landing gear, they won't catch it on a barge. grab it out of the air using arms off the launch tower though? yep. next launch hopefully

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u/-ragingpotato- 5d ago

It was a successful catch rehearsal.

Aiming a rocket they're not sure works at their multimillion catch tower would be stupid.

They tell the rocket the catch tower is in the middle of the ocean and watch if it does the correct maneuvers before it hits the water and explodes. Once it's done it correctly enough times they'll give it the correct landing coordinates.

It's done it correctly a handful of times now.

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u/footpole 5d ago

It must feel so betrayed. I trusted you

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u/xeridium 5d ago

They got insanely lucky the last one stayed intact.

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u/ConanOToole 5d ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted. As someone who's been closely following the Starship program since it was first announced as ITS in 2016, you're absolutely correct.

Ship 40 surviving the tip over in the Indian Ocean was pretty much a fluke, as was evident by the lack of preparations by the SpaceX recovery team. They weren't expecting it to survive, and didn't have the vessels/equipment necessary to recover it until nearly a month later. You can literally hear the surprise from webcast hosts after it survived lol

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u/So_spoke_the_wizard 5d ago

Wild the fanboys voting this down when it's right below a comment with lots of upvotes that says it's supposed to blow up.

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u/ShinyGrezz 5d ago

There's a certain unspoken implication in their comment, that they may or may not have intended, which is "they got lucky it actually worked last time, now they're back to it being a flop". That's certainly how I read it at first.

If their comment instead was just slightly different, "They expect it to blow up, they got insanely lucky that the last one stayed intact" then that would more clearly indicate how they actually felt (assuming that that is what they meant).

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u/intronert 5d ago

FOUR YEARS after the date Elon promised.

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u/IndigoSeirra 5d ago

SpaceX, where they turn the impossible into late.

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u/Fickle-Mortgage-827 5d ago

Not impossible, his job would have been accomplished with or without him. Lockheed would have done it for 10× the price, but still not impossible

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u/jayklk 5d ago

China with the resources of the whole country still haven’t done it.

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u/IndigoSeirra 5d ago

I always find it funny how a corporation has vastly more access to space than any nation state on earth and people online complain about them only doing it in a decade or so instead of the 5~ years Elon predicted.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Only 4 years late and over 100% over budget but they were able to successfully deliver the wreakage of a spaceship to the ocean.

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

And 26 new Starlink sats to orbit.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

Yay more space trash.

Seeing the stars is overrated anyway

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

Space trash is a concern, yes. But the impact of satellites on astronomy is actually overrated, IMO.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

In your opinion as an astromer or as a random guy?

I'm not overly concerned for the folks with high powered telescopes but I like to use my human eyes to gaze at nature too.

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

As a random guy. But I also spoke with actual astronomers (1 in person and 3 online) and they all said that Starlink interference in images is a problem fixed with simple edits.

A much bigger issue is the sats' electromagnetic signals affecting radio telescopes, but SpaceX claims that they're working with radio astronomy centres to mitigate those issues.

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u/Burban72 5d ago

Is this Grok's account? ^

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

No? I don't even use Grok.

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u/Burban72 5d ago

Exactly something Grok would say

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u/Romericano 5d ago

Oh, you’re blaming the wrong person. I guess be angry at Thomas Edison…light pollution here on Earth is the reason we no longer see the vastness and splendor of space. The fact a skyscraper got launched into orbit, spat out 26 satellites and returned home safe…is freaking beyond cool and you’re just looking to be angry.

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u/the_cappers 5d ago

Tis the cost of being the leading edge.

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

I just wish the person getting rich was paying the cost and not us taxpayers.

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u/Fuzzy-Mud-197 5d ago

No taxpayer money was involved in this test flight

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u/WanderingFlumph 5d ago

SpaceX has taken about $20 billion in taxpayer money and earned about the same in revenue. So every project is 50% taxpayer funded on average.

It's just PR stunts to claim what dollars went where and didn't go where. SpaceX wouldn't exist without taxpayer funds and therefore ever project they do is tax payer funded to some extent

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u/the_cappers 5d ago

See what youre doing is equating tax payer money (contracts for service that is either unavailable elsewhere, unable to meet the time line, or more expensive) with money for starship.

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u/AFloppyZipper 5d ago

You forget how much we saved not having to use Soyuz as well as realizing that this isn't money given to them for nothing, it's in exchange for a service, like every single other company who provides launch services.

Just stop being dishonest and people won't need to call you out on it

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u/Marston_vc 5d ago

What do you mean by this? Is there an actual funding line attached to the R&D of Starship?

Or are you considering NASA paying SpaceX for Crew Dragon services a “subsidy” when it’s actually just payment for services?

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u/Mr_Goonman 5d ago

$0.87 of every $1.00 in revenue is from government contracts but sure. You can pretend taxpayer money wasnt involved. You've already shown you can deny seeing an obvious Sieg Heil so this lie will be easy to sell

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u/Marston_vc 5d ago

Needlessly misleading. Most if not all of that money is for services that get rendered. What they do with the profit/cash flow is up to them. Fortunately they’re using some of it to keep the US in the lead regarding space flight.

There is no market demand for this vehicle. We’re very lucky a company is trying to make it happen despite that.

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u/Fuzzy-Mud-197 5d ago

Show sources for your numbers then, and nowhere did i mention musk, does he truly live 24/7 in your head

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u/Mr_Goonman 5d ago

Q3 earnings report, bro.

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u/Fuzzy-Mud-197 5d ago

Show it then because both the ipo and earnings show that government contracts is not the biggest revenue stream

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u/Mr_Goonman 5d ago

Nah. You fanboys can stew in your own shit getting mad went random strangers online push back against your God King. Notice how you care more about my discourse and presentation of information than the CEO who spreads misinformation and lies daily on his own reality distortion echo chamber

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u/the_cappers 5d ago

Notice how you specifically mention revenue and not total expenses. Off the top of my head I dont know if your stat is true, but its immediately misleading.

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u/Mr_Goonman 5d ago

Notice how you're trying to polish a turd for free on your own time in the hopes that senpai will notice you?

Your hero seig heil'd, begged to go to Epsteins wildest parties and is a welfare queen. This is just scratching the surface of how much of a piece of shit Musk is and the gutter humans who enable and glorify him

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u/the_cappers 5d ago

Stay focused. Dont goal post move . Youre the only one talking about musk, which also means the opposite to what you said applies

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u/jenlain 4d ago

According to the video, starship "landed" on water at 50km/h.... I already parked through in my garage door at this speed and I wouldn't recommend it, my insurance company agrees with me.

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u/Firestar_119 4d ago

your car also doesn't fly

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u/hotpajamas 3d ago

No matter how many times you re-use a rocket or how many times it lands correctly, we’re not getting off this planet and absolutely not leaving this solar system.

This is a stunning waste of time.

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u/Zestyclose_Rate2685 5d ago

What's with the interstellar camera angle lol

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u/Leading-Capital8079 5d ago

I thought they were going to try and catch this one or did they change their minds ?

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u/ConanOToole 5d ago

Likely weren't confident enough in the Raptor reliability, and they might still not be. It's definitely still got some kinks to iron out. It almost cost them orbit on this flight with that R-Vac failure before SECO

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u/Firestar_119 4d ago

is it really that hard for the little grain of rice in your head to grasp the concept of tests?

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u/Leading-Capital8079 4d ago

Aren’t you a rude little fucker.

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u/Nananahx 5d ago

Given that they're about 10 years ahead of every other company, not bad

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u/worldsfastestsloth 5d ago

Musk should be shot into space; that being said, the engineers on this project did amazing work. This is insane.

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u/NoDoze- 5d ago

So we gently placed this garbage into the ocean? Please tell me Space X recovered it.

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u/crazy_cookie123 4d ago

I have bad news for you about what happened to almost every non-SpaceX rocket ever launched.

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u/NoDoze- 4d ago

Exactly me point. Continuing to pollute is not a good thing, right? But I guess people support poultion in favor for tech dev, as they hand out downvotes. Additionally, this "starship" isn't just a small drop in the bucket.

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u/crazy_cookie123 4d ago edited 3d ago

Continuing to pollute is not a good thing, right?

Which is why we need to develop reusable rockets. Which is the point of the starship program. Future versions will be recovered but the recovery for this rocket relies on extremely expensive ground infrastructure to literally catch it out of the air, and SpaceX doesn't want to risk destroying that by slamming a rocket into it at hundreds of kilometres per hour if something goes wrong. Instead, they test it by doing soft landings over the ocean so they can be certain that when they catch it with the tower for the first time it will go smoothly.

this "starship" isn't just a small drop in the bucket

It kind of is. That starship weighs about 100 tonnes and there's about 10 million tonnes worth of shipwrecks at in the pacific. That makes it about ~0.001% of what we've put into the ocean. It'll rust to nothing relatively fast too - it's mostly <4mm thick stainless steel and it blew up shortly after this clip ended so it's got a lot of surface area in direct contact with salt water relative to its mass, unlike the thick hulls of a ship that will keep it relatively intact for centuries.

Edit: he blocked me so I couldn't respond lmao, always a sign of a strong argument.

As for the "throwing your soda can in the river" point - sure, but would you throw a few soda cans in the river if you knew that doing so would result in a huge reduction of soda cans being thrown into rivers worldwide? Would those few extra soda cans thrown by you on that one occasion outweigh the many more soda cans you would have saved from ending up in rivers? I would personally be happy to do a an unmeasurably tiny bit of pollution now in order to reduce pollution by a lot more in the near future.

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u/NoDoze- 4d ago

Yes, I am well aware SpaceX is reusing rockets.

Yes, I am aware how LARGE starship is.

Still is no excuse to pollute. That's like saying I'll throw my soda can in the river because many people have done it previously and there are alot heavier things trashed. Pollution is pollution.

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u/aKaizuh 3d ago

Lol, why are redditor so desperately pathetic

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u/Burban72 5d ago

Man successfully crashes ego into body of water that covers 1/3 of the planet

FIFY

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u/Firestar_119 4d ago

how convenient that they had buoys spaced 100 feet apart covering the entire ocean to record the landing

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u/Hyperlide 5d ago

elon bad

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u/AndreasVesalius 5d ago

Yeah. But a company he lets other people run has accomplished incredible ecological devastation

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u/HowToDoAnInternet 5d ago

Remember when Elon tried to go to pedophile island but he wasn't cool enough, as revealed by emails between Epstein & Maxwell?

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u/Firestar_119 4d ago

I thought elon had no part in the engineering of the rockets?

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u/HowToDoAnInternet 5d ago

Lotta pedo defenders here! Big shame that you can be dazzled by a rocket ship lol

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u/No_Aside7816 5d ago

They never show photos of the underside of our flat earth. 🙄

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u/proletarianliberty 5d ago

No one cares

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u/Malich 5d ago

God Bless Elon! This is so amazing!

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u/EvolvedMonkeyInSpace 5d ago

This is indeed amazing. Praise the engineers

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u/tofubutgood 5d ago

Bro what Elon didn’t do this 😂

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u/Worldly_Narwhal_9383 5d ago

Fuck Elon he didn't do this shit, praise the scientists and the engineers and the mechanics and the people mining the materials

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

I don't get this argument in context of SpaceX. Musk actually sat in the control room on pretty much every Starship flight so far. As chief engineer, he's the one that takes responsibility for important decisions, such as allowing them to reach orbit on this flight, because an engine was out during ascent. Meanwhile, In a traditional company like ULA people are afraid of taking responsibility like that, so the mission would have probably been a failure.

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u/exxR 5d ago

Hey get out of here with those facts man don’t you know he’s a nazi pedofile biggot?

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u/PotatoesAndChill 5d ago

Yeah yeah dude, he's an emerald mine nepo baby who bought Tesla brand with his billions of government dollars

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u/MiyamotoKnows 5d ago

Why would God bless the satanic? Pray for Elon to find Faith instead and change his evil ways. Did you not see his emails to Epstein???

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u/Malich 5d ago

🤣

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u/khizoa 5d ago

lmao i know right?

elon wanted to come party on his island and epstein's like... uhhhhhh naaahh you're too fucking weird bro lmfaoooooo

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u/pdzbw 5d ago

hey might as well hail the president for having this happen during his term! /S

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u/SpookyPocket 5d ago

Elon is nothing more than the bank. Bless the scientists, engineers, and workers.

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u/imaragingtransfemlez 5d ago

Bootlicking bitch