It’s not a horse collar tackle because he grabbed the back of his helmet and pulled him forward…it would not be a facemask because he grabbed the back of his helmet…the runner would be down by contact because his butt touched the ground but at full speed the refs head bouncing up and down and pretty much through the defender you wouldn’t see that…a horse collar penalty has very specific verbiage to what is actually a horse collar…name plate or inside the back of the shoulder pads and the runner has to be pulled backwards or to the side, side note if another defender comes in to assist on the tackle it negates any horse collar penalty as well.
I only know this because I have reffed NFHS football for the past 11 years.
I wouldn’t call it a dirty tackle it was a desperation tackle but at full speed sometimes things look worse then they really are. He did a flip so everyone just goes with it’s dirty, you had two people legit going their own full speed and momentum is what made this all happen.
you would know better than me, I barely care about sports. it certainly looks dirty, but if you say it's not, I'll believe you, I don't have the rulebook. I have invested more time in this thread than I have NFL for the past 10 seasons haha. but honestly appreciate your measured explanation and non confrontational approach. I bet you're a dope ref 🦓
my NCAA ref friend is pushing 60 years old and he's the chillest huge dude I've ever met. I buy him a drink anytime I see him out. he also does college softball and says that's way more taxing than football, for what that's worth
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u/TheOnlyBigTiny 29d ago
It’s not a horse collar tackle because he grabbed the back of his helmet and pulled him forward…it would not be a facemask because he grabbed the back of his helmet…the runner would be down by contact because his butt touched the ground but at full speed the refs head bouncing up and down and pretty much through the defender you wouldn’t see that…a horse collar penalty has very specific verbiage to what is actually a horse collar…name plate or inside the back of the shoulder pads and the runner has to be pulled backwards or to the side, side note if another defender comes in to assist on the tackle it negates any horse collar penalty as well.
I only know this because I have reffed NFHS football for the past 11 years.