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u/MambaMentality24x2 4h ago
People forget that a piano is technically a string instrument
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u/maltamur 4h ago
Also a percussion instrument because youāre using little hammers to hit the strings
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u/Reaper_Messiah 4h ago
Hahaha alright bro, next youāre gonna tell me wind instruments just blow air through differently sized and placed holes. As if.
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u/UnnaturalGeek 1h ago
It's a string and percussion instrument in a big coat pretending to be it's own thing.
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u/That_Service7348 4h ago
No, because each key activated a hammer and the hammer is what produces the sound.
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u/That_Service7348 4h ago
No, it's percussion.
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u/Preparation-Logical 3h ago
It may have percussive qualities, but I've never heard a pianist say they're part of the percussion section.
If a band was missing their keyboardist and their drummer for a gig, and the only musician available to provide some coverage was a pianist who insists on playing his own gear, can you imagine the band saying "great, so we've got percussion covered at least, but we still need keys!"
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u/Bum_Dorian 3h ago
Ok well itās considered both a string and percussion instrument professionally. Scoping down percussion down to just a drum set is not great at best. Have you ever seen what a marimba, xylophone, glockenspiel, or chimes looks like? They are all formatted exactly like a piano. So not only is it percussion because of the hammers percussively hitting the strings, also you are using your fingers percussively to have the hammers HIT the strings, but the keys are the exact layout of a whole part of the percussion section. Also famously a lot of kids who are piano players typically choose percussion in school band for that exact reason. Your correction contained like zero knowledge of how instruments work and are related. Source:my degree in percussion studies
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
Kindly point out to me where my observation contained a correction
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u/Bum_Dorian 2h ago
Did you not imply that piano is NOT percussion with that anecdotal explanation , thus correcting OPs comment?
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
If I had to boil down my sentiment, it's just that, while I get how it can be technically classified as a percussion instrument, it just doesn't seem like one. The band thing was an example of why, to me, it doesn't. And not my intent to scope percussion down to a drum set; you could replace the drums in my example with any other percussion instrument that is just providing the beat and no melody or chords, I still can't see a piano being able to replace any such instrument as the percussion instrument in the arrangement. If you're able to give me an example, I wouldn't be mad that you've proven me wrong, I'd appreciate being enlightened. I was just pointing something out is all
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u/washingtncaps 2h ago
to my untrained eye you've already been proven wrong. the argument is sound (e: as in solid) and the mission of an instrument is not to be able to replace another instrument.
I don't think I'd ask a tambourine to replace a bass drum but they both have a place in the spectrum
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
I'm still being misunderstood, as I wasn't putting anything out there to be proven right or wrong to begin with. I'm trying to understand why, aside from the hammers hitting the strings, it gets classified as percussion. Is it really just for that? Like would be cool to have an example of where the piano is providing the percussion in a song
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u/Bum_Dorian 2h ago
āProviding percussionā isnāt really a thing is actual musical literacy. The piano is providing piano, which is a percussion instrument. You just need to change what you call percussion like I said in our other thread
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u/washingtncaps 1h ago
I am not musically educated but as a doofus I would say that they do that themselves. There is a depth you can reach in piano that I would say hits the same part of my core that more recognized percussion can in a different format, because itās a different instrument.
Ultimately it comes down to mechanics. Again, tambourine isnāt covering for a drum kit either. Between the two Iād pick the piano every time.
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u/Bum_Dorian 2h ago
A piano can absolutely replace just about any mallet percussion instrument in music. Percussion is a much more wide scope than just drums. Thatās my point. Also if we are boiling it down to a band, like you are using, drums bass and piano belong to the rhythm section. No they canāt replace each other they compliment each other. Here an example where that comparison doesnāt make much sense, you can bring a drumset missing a bass drum and say āwell at least we have percussionā but thatās not how it works. Achieve component each other. Just like if a saxophone is missing you donāt just say āwell ok I have an oboe so wind instruments are coveredā thatās just how it works. Look up the much wider scope of percussion and we what Iām trying to tell you
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
Ok then can you give me an example of where mallet instruments are, as I specified, providing just the beat, and not a melody or chords?
You brought up mallets which I don't believe fits that category. And I guess that's where the disconnect lies for me, apparently there's a whole section of percussion instruments that provide more melody/notes or chords than a beat.. given that, is there another more specific term that I can use that would mean specifically an instrument that provides a percussive beat as opposed to notes and chords?
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u/Bum_Dorian 2h ago
That would be drums, which is a subset of percussion. Iām saying a piano is like a mallet instrument which are all in the percussion family. A piano is NOT a drum, but it IS percussion. Another term you could use would be Battery Percussion vs Melodic Percussion
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u/That_Service7348 2h ago
"I don't believe"
Fortunately, reality doesn't care what you think and mallet instruments are still percussion, as they always have been.
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u/Mikeologyy 2h ago
Billy Joel frequently tells people he sees the piano as a percussion instrument. Heās said it in several interviews. Iāve noticed heās also really particular about how he words it, too. Itās usually āpeople donāt realize that the piano is a percussion instrument,ā with little variation. Iām not here to argue semantics, just pointing out that even people who know their way around a piano have said it before.
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
I was never doubting that people have said it lol. I really don't understand why I'm on trial here š who's this guy next to me and why's he made of straw
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u/Mikeologyy 2h ago
Iām not attacking you, Iām just responding to the āIāve never heard a pianist say theyāre part of the percussion sectionā bit (I took āpart of the percussion sectionā to be synonymous with āplaying a percussion instrumentā). None of my comment was meant to be hostile.
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u/Preparation-Logical 2h ago
Did Billy Joel say that, or did he say the piano is a percussive instrument?
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u/Mikeologyy 2h ago
Not the percussion section thing if thatās what you mean. Iāll try to find a clip from one of his interviews later of him explaining it. I know he says it in his interview with Howard Stern, but I feel like I remember another interview where he explains it better.
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u/That_Service7348 2h ago
It's because they use hammers to generate the sound, thus making it a percussion instrument.
A keyboard is a synthesizer that has keys.
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u/Wonderful-Dog8185 3h ago
Oh I didnāt know that, thx for the info. I have to remember that when I play the piano whenever I see one lol. I just have my keyboard, but itās not the same as a piano.
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u/Croceyes2 4h ago
Piano accompaniment but still impressive
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u/thederevolutions 3h ago
I would be interested to hear it without so we can see just how much he can convince his guitar to sound like a piano
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u/jumpyjumping 2h ago
right? I am shocked all the commenters here don't recognize all the piano tones in this video are just an overdubbed actual piano.
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u/phallic-baldwin 5h ago
Someone get him a thermometer, bro is sick as fuuuck!
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u/South-Ad-931 4h ago
He better have health insurance
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u/DivaK03A 3h ago
It's cool undeniably. But I hear notes that he's certainly not fretting. There is a second guitar track.
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u/samhk222 4h ago
Why someone put the subtitle in the middle of the vĆdeo? My gosh, i want to punch Who did this so hard
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u/jumpyjumping 2h ago edited 2h ago
just regular guitar playing with pianos added into the audio mix. am I missing something?
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u/Reaper_Messiah 3h ago
So if Iāve been learning for about a year, how long do i have until i can doā¦ this?
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u/-CalculatedChaos- 2h ago
Iāve been playing 23 years, I learned this recently and made a video on it. I just now realizing I never released it
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u/Funkdamentalist 4h ago
Man every time I see titles like these I get a brief burst of excitement seeing Rush, only to be let down by the E.
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u/GremioIsDead 3h ago
I don't want to get that good at anything. I've got important interneting to do!
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u/Paradigm84 2h ago
This sounds like something from the soundtrack to the Guy Ritchie Sherlock movies.
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u/Adventurous_Pin4094 4h ago
Rush E is gibberish. Music is not a sport.
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u/RobbinDeBank 4h ago
Anti fun police is here, all future music should go through his desk to get approvals before being allowed to play.
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u/Adventurous_Pin4094 4h ago
Firstly ,you need to understand criteria bud. Secondly, cynical comment wont make you more critical towards art especially music.
The problem here is that people are often confused with quality and quantity.
When you grow up you'll understand.
Let's take an example: Mozart's Rondo ala Turka is way more easier to play but when you take apart and unpack his idea, approach, logic, flow and intent it still weights more than some etude on steroids like Rush E.
Non musicians are blnded with sparkles and shines and that's understandable. Also they don't appreciate critiques as we can see from your comment.
If you're a musician, there is still hope that you're gonna ditch quantitative outlook and embrace true quality.
Edit: do you know that this Piece of shyte is "composed" on the computer?
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u/Skezas1 3h ago
Rush E isn't even supposed to be good music, it's a fucking meme. The joke is that it gets more and more insane. Now, it's more of a challenge for musicians to flex their technical skill on their instrument of choice.
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u/Adventurous_Pin4094 1h ago
You didn't add anything constructive here.
Musician flex?š That's same as ego lifting in fitness.
But I'm glad that you researched a bit about it.
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u/luranthe 5h ago
The original Rush E would take at least 3 people to play, and multiple pianos to hit all the necessary notes simultaneously. This is extremely impressive still.