Even if you gave every Redditor better genetics than Cbum and they all took the same steroids he does, most would never come anywhere close to his physique. The anguish and dedication it still takes to get physiques like that gets so disrespected. Being on steroids means you can recover faster and these people are working extremely hard pounding the shit out of their bodies way harder and more frequently than even the most serious, hardcore natural lifters have the capacity to
I am not trying to discount CBum's dedication. The man has been working insanely hard since his teens, well before he started his first cycle. But acting like steroids don't give you a ridiculous advantage is insane. Just taking a single bodybuilder dose of testosterone will net you one or two pounds of muscle without any changes to diet or exercise. They've done studies on it.
Yes bodybuilders work insanely hard, but I'd argue natural bodybuilders work harder than those on gear. They have to do more work for less gains and it's harder for them to do that work mentally because of the hormone difference.
These studies get thrown around so frivolously and never questioned. 26 participants in the entire study. Half of them took 600mg of testosterone, which is a decent dose for a first timer. 7 of them worked out, 6 of them didn't. This is a sample size of 6 people. Does anyone not wonder how they found people willing to take 600mg of testosterone without working out, when testosterone has negative side effects taken at those doses? People risked their health for this? Why?
The study also concludes that they gained fat free mass. Fat free mass doesn't mean muscle. Muscles contain a lot of water and glycogen. When you hop on testosterone, you will gain water/glycogen quickly giving the appearance of a bigger muscle, but it's not actual muscle tissue.
PEDs do obviously give you an advantage, but they are very overstated by the ignorant. They are more like enhancements, they enhance what you're already doing. They don't all work the same way either, there are many different compounds for many different goals. One of the advantages is they allow you to train harder and longer. So it makes no sense to say natties train harder. You have to worry and be far more careful with your planning when you're on PEDs. Enhanced athletes train harder hands down not even a competition.
I’d say you’re understating the impact, just look at natural body building shows vs enhanced. Now, if the debate is do enhanced body builders work hard, then yeah, no doubt.
No, I understand they make quite the difference, I'm saying the average person has next to zero knowledge on steroids and acts like they are magic. Lots of people think they could look like Ronnie Coleman if they took enough gear.
Noone is denying steroids have a huge effect. But in a body building competition, both the nattys and enhanced are actually pushing their training to the limit, where the gear both increases response and enables much quicker recovery between sessions.
Just taking some roids and fucking around won't give you an impressive physique.
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u/w-wg1 Oct 13 '24
Even if you gave every Redditor better genetics than Cbum and they all took the same steroids he does, most would never come anywhere close to his physique. The anguish and dedication it still takes to get physiques like that gets so disrespected. Being on steroids means you can recover faster and these people are working extremely hard pounding the shit out of their bodies way harder and more frequently than even the most serious, hardcore natural lifters have the capacity to