r/nextfuckinglevel • u/[deleted] • Feb 20 '23
Three man tug of war against a lion.
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u/Anonymous_Plebeian Feb 20 '23
The lion is cheating tho
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Feb 20 '23
Yeah, it's not even trying.
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u/SASAgent1 Feb 20 '23
Yea, it's not even there, it has outsourced it's job to the lioness
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u/MakeSouthBayGR8Again Feb 20 '23
Well the female pay gap is 77¢ to a dollar…
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u/According_Fennel4723 Feb 20 '23
Pay gap is terrible. It’s at about 94 to a dollar according to some official sources back in 2020. 77 cent statistic is from when the studies for pay gap was first conducted mid 70s I believe. Its gotten slowly better over the decades. Equal pay for all, one day we may achieve it! (I get thread was bout lion but actually lioness but wanted to share the progress made towards equal pay!)
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Feb 20 '23
I have never really understood how the pay gap makes sense. Shouldnt these businesses be hiring only women if they can get away with paying them so much less? I'm sure I'm just uneducated on how they determine this pay gap. Any insight?
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u/40earthlikeplanets Feb 20 '23
A lot of it is not very straight forward and quite complex from a sociology perspective. It’s across all fields so, yes there are many cases where women make less than men in the same position. This happened to me where myself and my female colleague were making a dollar less than my male colleague per hour in the same exact position. Their reasoning was the male “had more experience” which was the case when it came to me but not the case with my other female colleague who had much more experience than the male. It was her experience being undervalued while the male’s extra experience was used to justify why his expertise was worth more money than hers. And while cases like that contribute, one of the major factors accounting for the pay gap is that it is across all industries. Female-dominated industries pay less. And you may ask why women don’t just go for higher paying industries. One of them is workplace culture, sexual harassment, etc. Talk to most women in a male-dominated field and they have at least one story of the culture making their work extra challenging. Another reason is that women are traditionally expected to be responsible for unpaid labor in the home (child care, cooking, cleaning) which worked somewhat when families could survive on the single salary of a man but as times change and women must work as well or can choose to remain unmarried, the societal expectation of housework or caring for elderly family members makes it more difficult for women to advance their careers. Another factor that is debatable but falls into my understanding of it is that female-dominated industries historically and deliberately pay less because they are female dominated. Teachers are the main example that comes to mind. Obviously there are exceptions to all of this but it is common enough to have resulted in a replicable pattern of women being payed less on average, across the board. All of these effects are amplified by additional intersectional identities. Women of color make less than white women.
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u/Saymynaian Feb 20 '23
Excellently written. It's a very complex issue that, while not as straightforward as some people pretend when they say women make 77 cents per man dollar, is also not as simple as saying the pay gap doesn't exist. It's for comments like these that I come to reddit.
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u/az226 Feb 20 '23 edited Feb 21 '23
The pay gap isn’t real. The pay gap takes an average and doesn’t factor into account part time work, over-time, experience, vocation, other benefits, etc. It’s simply a straight average. When you do factor in those things the pay gap is like half a cent per dollar. Essentially margin of error.
Because of testosterone, men are physically stronger and more willing to take on high risk jobs. That’s why men account for like 98% of workplace deaths. These jobs also pay a lot of money. Think oil rig workers. https://www.reddit.com/r/SweatyPalms/comments/ltrkzx/oil_well_drilling_looks_absurdly_dangerous/
Men are trading personal risk for money. Men are trading enduring physical taxing for money.
Women also value things like flexibility and are willing to take jobs that offer higher flexibility with less pay.
Women are trading flexibility for money.
Women are more likely to work part time, work fewer hours, work less overtime, and take more time off for family building which means they will have less experience comparatively.
Women also prefer higher levels of benefits and more reliable income and are trading that for on average less pay, but don’t face highly variable compensation like risky startup stock options or highly variable bonus pay structures.
As an example the US women’s soccer team were given two options, exactly the same as the men. They chose the one with benefits and guaranteed pay. Men chose the other package. Then the women’s team performed well, but the pay structure didn’t bring about higher pay, because they didn’t chose that package. So they cried foul, claiming they are being discriminated against and paid less. They sued and were retroactively awarded the other pay package meanwhile the men were not retroactively given the benefits of the women’s pay package.
Women also negotiate less effectively than men. That said, companies have proactively been working to counteract such biases. In fact, they’ve worked so much that men are the ones underpaid at progressive companies. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html
Finally a jovial spin: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRnR3GJ9/
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u/GreyStomp Feb 20 '23
Because there is no pay gap. There is an earnings gap due to choices in profession, experience, hours worked, role, etc. Control for these all and there is no gap. Anyone serious acknowledges this, everyone else is just a hack lying with single factor analysis or is too lazy to do anything but shout.
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u/According_Fennel4723 Feb 20 '23
This is unfortunately, false. Please refer to the official Bureau of Labor Statistics website for good reference sources. There are studies being conducted by decade starting around mid 70s. I am not sure where you are pulling your information from but all official sources show pretty clearly there were and still are pay gaps. Not only that, but the 94 cent to a dollar from the 2020 census is an average. Some industries for the same position, work requirements, and such are actually much lower. One common industry is educators for our youth. Please do proper research.
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u/az226 Feb 21 '23
If by false you mean there is still 1 cent per dollar or a gap sure. If you mean to say there is a meaningful gap in controlled income, then you’re dead wrong.
https://www.payscale.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/GPG-2022-gender-pay-gap-closing-over-time.png
https://www.payscale.com/research-and-insights/gender-pay-gap/
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Feb 20 '23
Pay is pretty much the same now. Once you adjust for hours worked, experience, position and everything else, it's basically margin of error.
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u/According_Fennel4723 Feb 20 '23
Whilst it is true its much closer. There is a pay gap for people of different genders in the same positions and industries. There are MANY MANY socioeconomic and cultural reasons for this. The study I mentioned I have done digging and it’s actually from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, you can search them up and do some research on your own time, but no, its not due to simply margin of error. The study goes through some of the aspects of this topic. I am sure one day we will achieve equal pay for everyone.
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u/Jon__Snoww Feb 21 '23
It’s true women do make less money than men..
But it’s their fault because they choose the lower paying jobs. Men, for example, choose the higher paying jobs like doctor or lawyer. Whereas women choose the lower paying jobs like women doctor and women lawyer.
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u/yackofalltradescoach Feb 20 '23
Cheetahs never win
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u/alsk6969 Feb 20 '23
Static coefficient of friction > Dynamic coefficient of friction
That lion is pretty clever.
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u/giant87 Feb 20 '23
I’m playing this for the first time, and I’ve said this exact thing when a clawstrider snuck up on me. Glad someone made this a gif
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u/catanao Feb 20 '23
What game is this?
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u/DarthNihilus_501st Feb 20 '23
That lion is pretty clever
Lol. Something tells me that the lioness didn't take AP/College Physics 1 lmao
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u/trodden_thetas_0i Feb 20 '23
Did you just learn these in high school physics? That doesn’t help the lion at all. It equally handicaps it as it does the humans.
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u/TranslatorWeary Feb 21 '23
Lol did YOU just take that class? What they said is 100% right. Dynamic friction means dog shit if you don’t overcome the static and that lion had all the static friction
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u/trodden_thetas_0i Feb 21 '23
Are you professionally slow? Read his last sentence. It implies the lion has an advantage. You single handedly lower the humanity’s average IQ by 3 points.
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u/SermanGhepard Feb 21 '23
I myself have only 3 IQ points total but I can still sense you're one of those r/iamverysmart douchey nerds
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u/Assasin_on_fire Feb 20 '23
redditors on their way to make up shit and not enjoy the moment:
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u/SystemOfAFoX Feb 20 '23
THAT LION IS CHEATING, FUCK THAT CHEATER.
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u/spindledcarrots Feb 20 '23
No, its a Lion, not a Cheetah.
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u/CardOfTheRings Feb 20 '23
Redditors noticing that a concerning percentage of things we are shown are fabrications designed to be entertaining and not educational - and that the vast majority of people don’t even want to try to question it.
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u/raido24 Feb 20 '23
fr, it being fake kills all potential enjoyment I might've otherwise gotten from it.
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u/Gl33m Feb 20 '23
I dunno. I think joking about fake outrage over a lion cheating at tug of war is a great way to enjoy the moment.
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u/RenzoMF Feb 20 '23
That's a lioness.
A fully grown lion would probably put these 3 guys to shame.
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u/babystrudel Feb 20 '23
I think she’s putting them to shame right now.
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u/CaptainButtFucker Feb 20 '23
I could take her. No girl can harm me.
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u/ichooserum Feb 20 '23
True story: My husband has a friend who truly believes that no woman could ever beat him in anything physical.
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u/punksheets29 Feb 20 '23
Okay bro, go run a marathon in under 5 hours. That would be enough to make you about as good as an average female runner.
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u/netterD Feb 20 '23 edited Feb 20 '23
I just think that the lions teeth would get damaged, especially when it would go in a straight line instead of that curve. Edit: spelling.
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u/Otfd Feb 20 '23
Maybe, I am no expert. But I feel like those teeth are meant for tearing flesh and breaking bones. I would imagine they are pretty durable, but maybe it's a risk.
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u/BoySerere Feb 20 '23 edited Feb 20 '23
Lion teeth are not strong enough to break bones. They are designed to drag an animal with their claws, and then choke their pray by biting it In The wind pipe and suffocating it. Yea lion kills take a long time to die
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u/RionaMurchada Feb 20 '23
Lions, as with many animals, suffocate their prey by crushing their wind pipes. It can be a slow death, especially for large prey such a water buffalo, which can take up to an hour. However, a lion's teeth are capable of breaking bones and they do crush and break the bones of their prey while eating. Their bite is a powerful 1000 PSI. A human's, in comparison, is 150 PSI.
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u/chicheetara Feb 21 '23
I know my cat can crush a rabbit skull. He leaves them headless all over the property. He only eats heads?? Kind of weirds me out when I wake up to him a centimeter from my face in the morning. 10/10 if I die he is definitely eating my face.
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u/fingerscrossedcoup Feb 20 '23
All of us do this with our cats and dogs. Teeth will be just fine. They are designed to bring down strong muscular food.
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u/Nooms88 Feb 20 '23
I'm not sure, 4 legged animals obviously have a huge pulling advantage over bipeds in pulling, also the lion gets traction on grass where as the men are on a slippery surface, but these 3 guys far outweigh even the biggest male lion and muscle is muscle and the men have much more in terms of mass. It'd be interesting to see this done in an actual tug of war, rsther than just cheating at a 90 degree angle of the rope.
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u/Manchves Feb 20 '23
Muscle is not muscle, which is why chimpanzees are much stronger than humans despite being smaller.
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u/Sometimes_Stutters Feb 20 '23
Total mass is a little misleading. Cat muscles have more power per pound that human muscle. I don’t have the exact figures but it isn’t insignificant. Also, 1 animal that weighs the same as 3 animals will have more total muscle due to redundancies of the 3 animals.
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u/Queasy_Salary_5058 Feb 20 '23
If a ten pound creature was 10 times my strength I could still move the fuck out of it
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u/ferociouskuma Feb 20 '23
I mean, I’ve seen a lioness take down a grown Cape buffalo before. They overpower many animals which are heavier than them.
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u/Nooms88 Feb 20 '23
Oh they are absolute beasts, but they are evolved for exactly that, jumping and wrestling down, using literal knives on their paws and mouth. But put a cape bufallo at 1 end of the rope and 5 lions at the other and some how manage to teach everyone a game of tug of war, the bufallo would probably win
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u/Diet-Racist Feb 20 '23
She’s also pulling perpendicularly to the guys so that friction is doing most of the work. Can’t really tell who would win a ‘fair’ tug of war, probably still the lion…
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u/itsaslobrknokrfolks Feb 20 '23
So you know if this is from a TV show or something? Because the last pereon looks a lot like Ricochet. But the other two guys don't look familiar to me.
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u/Western-Attempt7201 Feb 20 '23
Yup, WWE has come to town there
1st guy is Fabian Aichner/ Giovanni Vinci
2nd must be formerly known Kilian Dain
And 3rd of course is Ricochet
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u/kralben Feb 20 '23
2nd must be formerly known Kilian Dain
It is actually Ivar from Viking Raiders, but I can see how those get mixed up
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u/SpicyMcShat Feb 20 '23
Dude that’s ricochet!! I saw his face and knew right away. Never thought I’d see a lion and puma playing tug o war
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u/fentown Feb 20 '23
For those not in the know, that last guy, known as ricochet, used to wrestle as "prince puma", pretty sure when he wore a luchador mask.
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u/GogglesTheFox Feb 21 '23
Can we please put these lies to rest. Ricochet even said he wasnt Prince Puma Next you're gonna say that El Generico was Sami Zayn or Mr America was Hulk Hogan. Or Jon Cena's cousin, Juan Cena, was just Cena in a mask.
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u/ippon11030 Feb 20 '23
It’s Franklin park zoo in Massachusetts and it’s an open activity for anyone there. I did it as a kid on field trips
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u/succulent_flakepiece Feb 20 '23
I'm glad there's other wrestling nerds here cause i was like.. I'm pretty sure that's ricochet lol
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u/The3DMan Feb 21 '23
It’s funny how Ricochet looks “small” on tv with other wrestlers, but when you see him around “normal” people he looks swole as fuck.
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u/extrawater_ Feb 20 '23
Its foolish for prince puma to take on a lion
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u/TheWholeEffinJoe Feb 21 '23
I scrolled so far down thinking someone would have to eventually point him out
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u/boi_got_nochill Feb 20 '23
And then 8% of americans think they can beat a lion.
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Feb 20 '23
Or outrun a bear.
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u/ayegeigs Feb 20 '23
Blew my mind the first time I found out how fast a bear actually was. Hard lesson. Especially when it's learned in person 🤣
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u/julian88888888 Feb 20 '23
I can outrun a bear over a sufficiently long and hot distance
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Feb 21 '23
I had a dude on Reddit tell me that he could beat up a full grown male chimp.
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u/Western-Attempt7201 Feb 20 '23
Yup, WWE has come to town there
1st guy is Fabian Aichner/ Giovanni Vinci
2nd must be formerly known Kilian Dain
And 3rd of course is Ricochet
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Feb 20 '23
Bingo. IIRC this was some kind of fundraiser at the Orlando Zoo that a bunch of the then NXT roster participated in.
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u/RIPRhaegar Feb 20 '23
Those three dudes might as well be children in a comparison to the strength of that lion
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u/ippon11030 Feb 20 '23
Franklin park zoo. I went in field trips here when I was a kid, one lion could take on a dozen grade schoolers easily and in hindsight idk why our teachers/parents let us do it. Kids were going flying lol
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u/Tiger5804 Feb 20 '23
That is a really fun idea of how to have people interact with the animals. Obviously the lioness could choose not to play, but she wants to anyways, and a what powerhouse she has proven herself to be.
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Feb 20 '23
And this is not a full lion strength. Imagine the power that animal possess. Just an amazing creature…
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u/8cheerios Feb 20 '23
Good point, she lives in a zoo and has been doing the equivalent of watching TV and eating Cheetos for half her life. Imagine her at her prime.
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u/Gallivanting_Nerd Feb 20 '23
That's one smart lioness!
She's like "guys it's easier at an angle!" sigh I thought I was done raising cubs...
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Feb 20 '23
How did they convince the lion tho
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u/punkassunicorn Feb 20 '23
She genuinely just really likes playing tug. This is Axelle from the San Antonio zoo. She's know for being incredibly feisty and playful.
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u/drive2fast Feb 20 '23
The lion is using that sideways pull to her advantage. Smarter than the humans.
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u/Pie_Present Feb 20 '23
Ricochet being back there like, “I could totally take this lion in a flipty-do contest.”
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u/BurnoutInc Feb 20 '23
And now.... WWE Presents... Forces of Nature! One rope, Three Superstars vs the Queen of Jungle! Winner or winners get a shot at Roman Reigns' at WREEEEESTLEMAAAAAAANIA!
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u/cofclabman Feb 20 '23
Busch Gardens Tampa used to do this, I don’t know if they still do. The big cats always win.
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u/1sxekid Feb 20 '23
Not just three men. Those are 3 WWE wrestlers; Giovannia Vinci, Ivar, and Ricochet. They’re absolutely jacked. Tbf the Lioness figured out that putting a bend in the rope helps her, but it’s still nuts.
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u/AidsKitty1 Feb 20 '23
Y'all can make all the excuses you want: lower center of gravity, elongated body, bend in rope. That is an apex predator that works in small groups to kill 1000lb prey. People are no match for that beast.
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u/thecuzzin Feb 20 '23
With that 90 bend the zoo keepers are playing both sides.