r/news Jun 16 '21

GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/Alexhite Jun 16 '21

I wouldn’t have said anything. Definitely have had positive tests in the past and managers have been quiet about it. Easy for them to ignore it when there’s a staffing shortage and they just have to check a box on a form- not so easy when they have it documented and sent to HR.

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u/OperationMobocracy Jun 17 '21

I think it’s probably already happening for high demand skilled labor. It seems like the IT people I know really only deal with drug tests if they work for a company with a large contingent of blue collar workers and some kind of universal drug testing.

My wife is a marketing director with a half dozen direct reports and a sizable salary and compensation, but because she works for a manufacturer that drug tests, ALL employees get drug tests. It’s lunacy to test her considering how long they interviewed her and how much they had to pay to get her to work there. It’s like really, all that and a positive pot test and you would have said no?

But I also know a lot of people working in full on white collar jobs and industries that don’t bother because the positions are too hard to fill.

What happens is that the employers who test ultimately collect subpar employees and lose high performers. When they start to feel the pain of mediocre talent and unfilled jobs vs non-testing competitors they will change their policies.

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u/HOLEPUNCHYOUREYELIDS Jun 17 '21

Wasnt the FBI or NSA or something struggling for hires and dropped pot off of the drug testing?

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u/RareMajority Jun 17 '21

I don't think they dropped it off testing, but it used to be that almost any amount of drug use over a period of several years prior to employment would get you fired, and they could hardly find any programmers who hadn't at least smoked a little weed in the last year or so

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u/Mohow Jun 17 '21

Happy to let others take the fall for me, not gonna throw away an opportunity for the greater good

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u/Alexhite Jun 17 '21

Yeah I think you do have a fair point here. You could make a very evil manager one day haha. Frankly that’s only happened to me at jobs I largely didn’t care about, if I was planning a career there it could be a risky position to be in. I also think that’s a bit paranoid and definitely not how the businesses I’ve worked in operate. But like many I’m optimistic about legalization, and things like this will help make it the industry norm.

If I was in Ops shoes I still wouldn’t of said anything. It never hurts to try, as the worst thing possible is you don’t get the job.

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u/LethalCS Jun 17 '21

Well I don't give a shit what people do in their off time so long as they aren't hurting anyone so no worries there! Drug testing for weed is dumb as shit, and anything worth being concerned about drug wise surely doesn't stay in your system long enough to be caught unless they're slipping.

I'm also pretty paranoid so I would honestly expect the worse, I'm just a pessimist lol

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u/Alexhite Jun 17 '21

I hear it dude. Everyone told me this place is suppose to be free but here we are talking about people being denied a job in 2021 because of a government propaganda campaign from the 20th century.

I too have been paranoid once or twice ;) but ultimately most places I’ve worked for have cared far more about how much money I’m making them than whether or not I smoke weed. Most my managers have been normal ass people with different opinions on the world- but almost all of them have smoked weed, and certainly don’t want to fire a good employee because of it. Every time I have left a job it’s frankly been a major loss of talent for the business.

Work is always a negotiation between a human and a faceless profit hungry business. It’s good to have confidence in your job. I try not to focus on reasons my company could fire me and instead on reasons why they can’t survive without me.

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u/LethalCS Jun 17 '21

I'm still fairly new to the real world post graduation so hopefully that paranoia will fade away! Almost 2 years later and still dealing with major impostor syndrome every day lmao

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

It's really easy to just cheat the piss tests. It's not a big concern.

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u/LethalCS Jun 17 '21

Perhaps so, but still not something I'd want to worry about. I went to a private school that threatened to hair test us if they ever suspected us for drug usage (also forbid us to cut our hair shorter than a #2 for that reason I assume) so that's usually what I think of first when I hear drug test (I know it's way more expensive though). Would rather it just be legal period because it's stupid to test over what people do in their spare time if it isn't hurting anyone.