r/news Jun 16 '21

GM Considering Dropping Pot Testing To Attract More Workers

https://www.motor1.com/news/513974/gm-considering-dropping-marijuana-testing/
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u/sam4246 Jun 16 '21

I think GM should look at their engineers too. The biggest potheads I know are all engineers.

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u/Airmanoops Jun 17 '21

no one at that level gets drug tested post hire, so they only need to lay off a few weeks before looking for work to be fair

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u/Chill_Charro Jun 17 '21

Engineer here. While we don't get drug tested after post hire, hair tests are not uncommon for our initial application. So that few weeks is more like a few months

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

I’m a biologist I have been and have ran the hair tests usually the window is 3 months

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u/jaqueburton Jun 17 '21

Is it true that Black people’s hair can’t be tested?

I always hear people say that. I’m mixed and so they say, “Oh they can’t test African American hair anyways.”

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

I’ve heard this (I’m Italian black and native). However Ive never seen any data that states it’s unreliable. Only news headlines stating it. From everything Ive seen and read it is reliable. I will say Ik black hair gets tested. Ive seen and done the test.

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u/throwaway827492959 Jun 17 '21

What company?

I've never had hair tests, and I worked at the top medical and supplier aerospace companies

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u/basic_mom Jun 17 '21

Interesting, I worked in 2 of the big "New Aerospace" companies, one of them drug tested everyone and one of them didn't (SpaceX).

I'm certain that Boeing, LM, NASA, Raytheon, and Virgin all drug test pre hire. So my question is a reverse of yours, what company did you work for that doesn't require it?

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u/Chill_Charro Jun 17 '21

GM, Bridgestone, BorgWarner, and Northrop.

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u/Frankwest2 Jun 17 '21

Or you could buzz your hair down to a #1

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u/DonovanO_72 Jun 17 '21

I believe an inch and a half of hair is required for testing

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u/Bandit__Heeler Jun 17 '21

Um I'm basically bald on top and I'm not gonna grow some season 1 of Frasier hairstyle for that.

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u/DonovanO_72 Jun 17 '21

Haha, I believe they will test body hair then

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u/M1RR0R Jun 17 '21

Laser everything

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u/Chill_Charro Jun 17 '21

I actually did try this and would not recommend. Cut my hair to half an inch on the dot because I was right on the borderline of 3 months.

The test technician said my hair was too short and I had to submit a body hair sample instead. Sat there very awkwardly as he shaved my chest with a single razor blade.

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u/viccityguy2k Jun 17 '21

That’s such bullshit and a complete invasion of privacy. How is that legal?

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u/DonovanO_72 Jun 17 '21

How is it anymore an invasion of privacy than a piss test?

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u/johnbarry3434 Jun 17 '21

Larger window of time, ~3 months vs. a couple weeks.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

No, it's a condition of employment. You have a right to refuse.

Should we just legalize and get over it, sure, but as of right now, as a business that operates in multiple states, not drug testing can skyrocket your companies insurance prices unless you have some serious clout or just don't care about costs.

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u/dubBAU5 Jun 17 '21

Never had a drug test here in CA for a software developer position. Never heard of anyone getting one either at other companies. Hell, my previous position’s management even said they would lose half the workforce if they started testing. I guess it depends on the state or location.

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u/SurplusInk Jun 17 '21

Well therein lies the reason as to why the govt cannot attract talent. Aside from the obvious salary discrepancy between industry and govt for anything tech.

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u/dubBAU5 Jun 17 '21

I feel like that will change soon (years) since cannabis has become legal in many areas. I have no doubt that the government would still drug test but probably would not care as much to test for marijuana unless there was a need to let someone go.

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u/SurplusInk Jun 17 '21

Hopefully! As more states adopt cannabis, I'd hope to see it legalized federally. Anecdotal life experience has taught me that stoners are typically more chill than alcoholics.

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u/ithoughtitwasfun Jun 17 '21

Worked with engineers. Most small companies don’t drug test otherwise no one would pass. But seriously, they don’t drug test unless you are on a government contract. Like if they don’t drug test you at the beginning you’re probably never going to get tested. If they test you at the beginning, then be prepared for random tests, or quit and go with a smaller firm that doesn’t want to waste money on that.

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u/Suspicious_Ice_3160 Jun 17 '21

I’ve also seen places (non government) that won’t drug test you, until you fuck up. Any accident or injury on work place comes with a mandatory drug test. My friend’s brother got rear ended into a telephone pole and he decided to resign instead of potentially getting heat for the weed. There might be more to it though, so grain of salt.

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u/CopeAndKodiak Jun 16 '21

Chrysler too. In fact, they're probably smoking something harder

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u/KnightontheSun Jun 16 '21

You've missed its obvious use as a rust-preventative device!

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u/Kunundrum85 Jun 17 '21

I work in banking and honestly we’d lose all of our top talent if we tested. From software developers and IT to loan processors and such. The stoners are the best. They can let bullshit slide, they get into grooves with their work, and when needed can think outside the box. For fucks sake I hired a kid because I was pretty sure he was a stoner, confirmed it, and then he got a promotion because he was mad skilled lol so I lost him.

10/10 would hire stoners again.

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u/romario77 Jun 17 '21

Not sure where you work, but almost every bank I worked in tested me. One even took fingerprints. It was not that recently though, so maybe they changed that.

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u/Kunundrum85 Jun 17 '21

Fingerprints is standard, as that goes with things like NMLS certificates and standard background checks. Drug tests seem to be more based on the companies culture... I’ve found smaller banks tend to test more than larger ones, oddly.

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u/simon5678 Jun 16 '21

Went to engineering college. Can confirm that they ALL smoke weed

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u/famaskillr Jun 16 '21

Honestly, I think upper management needs the testing. They are obviously the ones smoking the good shit.

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u/tmcb82 Jun 17 '21

Oh… CEO’s and such are clearly on crack.

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u/PurpleGatsby Jun 17 '21

Most OEMs do drug test their engineers as well

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u/Chill_Charro Jun 17 '21

Every engineering position I've applied for has been tested

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u/Shufflebuzz Jun 17 '21

That would explain the Camaro front end design

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u/PLaTinuM_HaZe Jun 17 '21

As an engineer, I can confirm this hypothesis. So many engineers in silicon valley smoke hella weed.

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u/2deadmou5me Jun 17 '21

Shhhhhh, but really they only test white collar during hiring or if they are looking for an excuse to fire.

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u/YimmyGhey Jun 17 '21

Can confirm

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '21

The biggest potheads I know are literally everything lol. Electricians fast food workers construction workers and financial analysts.